AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #5

[melsmemories]

i viewed that Commissioner S , that in the investigation ,"
Police have identified several children at rick of abuse , They are now being protected"
my questions are , what kinda Abuse , mental , physical or sexual ?
Did they come across this information , fro HP , helping police with their enquiries .
And referring to the other thing that we are not allowed to mention on here , I believe friends and associates are plastering information all over their accounts to one another and discussing what they know about the case and having full on discussions about it to each other and not talking this info to the police.

I dont think it has anything to do with Hp . Before khandalyse was identified people had called crimestoppers with tips about what child it could be . At one point the police had a list of children to check on . Some of these children were in a unsafe enviroment .

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[antechinusRAWR]

I know brothers who used to lodge fortnightly forms for each other sometimes, back in the nineties. One day one of them got selected for a review and streamed off to the side and asked questions about his jobseeking efforts. Had to make it all up on the spot. They stopped lodging each others forms after that.

Yeah, not something I'd be doing either, but in all those years of working in that field I saw & heard a lot of stuff.

It's not at all an uncommon thing, even for booked reviews.

 

[Panda]

I had a thought about this last night. I was finding it difficult to comprehend how a woman could be in a relationship with someone, the relationship ends because of a bad accident causing the deaths of her children, and severe injury to herself, and this same person, later on down the track, then becomes involved with the man again (though not romantically), to the extent of carrying on fraudulent activities. To me, it just didn't make sense. Please note, I'm not saying this is what happened, just some general thoughts.

Then I started to wonder what sort of payout CTP insurance would honour, if the driver of a vehicle was the cause of the accident, due to drug/alcohol use, or some other situation and the passenger was aware that the driver was negligent.

I then did some googling, and found that if the passenger in the car involved in a serious accident, in which they are injured, had knowledge of negligence of the driver, termed "partly at fault", they could receive a substantially smaller compensation claim. In which case, the person involved in the accident would have to rely more heavily on Medicare and Centrelink. Given the change in legislation in which compensation claims are based on a percentage basis, which means the payouts are substantially lower to start with, the passenger may not have walked away with a great deal of money - plus it could take a considerable amount of time until a payout was given (as the accident would have to be thoroughly investigated). See links below:

http://www.maa.nsw.gov.au/media/documents/guide-for-people-injured-in-a-motor-vehicle-accident

http://www.mac.sa.gov.au/claim

Could this be a motive for a woman who was severely injured and lost two children in an accident, to resume contact with a person who may have caused the accident, which subsequently resulted in a smaller compensation payout?

I can't even begin to think how devastating such a scenario would be for someone, especially if they were in a relationship that was highly dysfunctional and abusive to start with. Given that type of scenario, the mental and emotional state of the woman could be quite a major factor in any future involvement with the person who caused the accident - they may have hit rock bottom, become either involved or more involved in drug use and alcohol - anything to mask the terrible pain and loss they have suffered. Then supposing the person responsible for the accident offers them a way out of their financial hardship, or supposing the woman starts demanding what she thinks is rightfully hers - proper compensation for her loss. Would this woman feel justified in consequently breaking the law to recover what she would feel is her "due"? Throw in another woman in the mix, and the scenario gets even more complicated.

I hope this is okay to post - as I say, it is just some food for thought.

 

[melsmemories]

I get what you mean. As it's going into a brown paper bag it can not be bio hazardous. Most likely a glove?


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Its a glove .if that was the search they did along the highway it may not be related to the case at all . Ive been on the highway and see all kinds of things out there

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[Panda]

Its a glove .if that was the search they did along the highway it may not be related to the case at all . Ive been on the highway and see all kinds of things out there

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Yes, that's what I thought - a glove, a smallish glove probably belonging to a woman or child. I noticed the red colour too - but before anyone gets too carried away, if it was blood, unless it was very recent, it wouldn't remain visible as a prominent red colour.

I agree, just because they picked it up, doesn't mean it's relevant. They would have to pick up all manner of things sighted in the vicinity - and 9 times out of 10, most of it would be stuff that's been discarded by a motorist/passenger from a passing vehicle and have no bearing whatsoever.

 

[antechinusRAWR]

OH MY GOODNESS , What does this mean ?????who are the are the children ???

(I'm multi-posting again, sorry all, seems to be a morning-only thing so it should stop shortly).



This article was linked in this thread by someone (I've forgotten who, Sorry!!) much earlier than the Police Comissioner vid yesterday.

It covers the same statements as the video though - his warnings re social media & MSM.


It also discusses the "other children" & makes it clear that they're referring to children who were reported as potential matches for the child who was found (before Khandalyce was identified).
ie. while ruling all of these children out, police discovered some of them required assistance/intervention due to their circumstances.


http://indaily.com.au/news/2015/11/03/khandalyce-investigation-may-have-saved-other-kids/

 

[silverau]

What me makes thinking: persons left (Karlie?) and right (son of HP) to little Khandalyce are wearing warm jackets but the sweet toddler doesn't. Heartbreaking and her little saddened serious face too!

<Modsnip> - but the person in the picture that everyone is wondering about is NOT Karlie. How do I know? Because in other photos taken during the event, <Modsnip>

It's not Karlie.

 

[melsmemories]

<Modsnip> - but the person in the picture that everyone is wondering about is NOT Karlie. How do I know? Because in other photos taken during the event, <Modsnip>

It's not Karlie.

Thanks for clearing that up .

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[silverau]

Thanks for clearing that up .

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I'm trying to abide by rules here - but at the same time trying to quash any speculation. We don't know if Karlie was at the event. Most likely she was seeing Khandles was there. But that photo is not proof - it's simply not her due to another person in other photos wearing the same clothes and is obviously a different person. Maybe I worded this post better?

 

[melsmemories]

I'm trying to abide by rules here - but at the same time trying to quash any speculation. We don't know if Karlie was at the event. Most likely she was seeing Khandles was there. But that photo is not proof - it's simply not her due to another person in other photos wearing the same clothes and is obviously a different person. Maybe I worded this post better?

I agree fully . I wanted to say the same thing . I just wasnt sure how to word it . It needed to be cleared up though

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[Satchie]

I get what you mean. As it's going into a brown paper bag it can not be bio hazardous. Most likely a glove?

So often the news media do little creative filming for the sake of illustrating a story, such as fingers entering numbers into an ATM machine, an arm handing a wad of cash to someone else's arm, this really could be a little scene they staged. Police try hard not to let media film their actual work.

 

[plongi]

Children at risk have come to light as the list was trolled through looking for this particular one K.

Although. The first suspect interviewed was a convicted pedophile. Who was moved from low to super high security after a chat. Has to mean something.

Being stomped to death spells out wanting someone gone. Very angry. Has origins in self defense, military, prison.
Taking someone / anyone to Belanglo will bring out your fear. I have been there and I was fearful.

Generally children's bodies that are kept is family / friend related. Unable to fully let go.
If these bodies were just made to completely disappear none of this would probably be happening now. Still commit the fraud but no later connection.
Karlie was just off the trail.
Having relationship with Karlie could have been purely to extract pin numbers history etc.

HP demeanor .. Even Ivan Milat waved and smiled for the media.

To truly get away with this fraud Karlie's identity would have to be kept alive for ever. Eventually someone will say where is she and with a money trail it cant end well for the fraudster.
Either not that bright or someone else pulling the strings.
Heavy drug use doesnt help you to see the future that clearly.

 

[Satchie]

Sadly no one listens to sub judice laws on facebook and twitter . Really annoying that theyre making the job harder on police . This is why i prefer WS

Also there have been allegations and hatred expressed towards people who police have not stated are suspects or involved, such as HPs partner - <Modsnip>

 

[plongi]

That is right.
<Modsnip>

Every year I have to retrain and be accredited for welfare of young people but I feel like your using a dustpan and brush to clean up a dump mess of acres and acres in size.

 

[Theodora]

Also there have been allegations and hatred expressed towards people who police have not stated are suspects or involved, such as HPs partner - <Modsnip>

I agree (IMO) that criticisms of HP's partner should be out of bounds unless there is some evidence from the Police that he is a POI for some crime. I also don't think expressions of hatred towards HP herself do much to further the case, but that's just my opinion.

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[Satchie]

Removing my message - I don't want to debate this.

 

[plongi]

Somebody with the knowledge should be helping them understand "parents and the kids" how best to go about going through this.

I think they are trying to act normally, as though they aren't being hounded by the media. In a normal circumstance, there wouldn't be anything wrong with their behaviour - it's the media frenzy that's abusive, in my opinion.

 

[The Observer]

The media are reporting 7 children are living in the house, whilst their reporters and camera crews are parked outside. I think it's safe to say who here has little regard for the children. There is absolutely no need for reporters to be outside the house. It is not a crime scene.

 

[reasypeasy]

Surely Rather then put the kids in the limelight and media circus the better option would be for HP to drive herself to the police station for any questioning ?

A person with her level of mobility needs someone physically helping if they are going to be running a media gauntlet between car and police station and it not have a high risk of going very bad. Also, even if the media let her through she'd be pretty recognisable by now, there's a significant chance of an irate and unstable member of the public deciding to take a pop at her and her having no chance to defend herself.

I think the police need to take a good hard think about what facilities they have available and try to find somewhere that she can drive straight in (with or without her kids/carer) and a roller door shut behind her. If that means interviewing her in a warehouse where uniforms are stored or the office area of the place where police vehicles are serviced then so be it. Sometimes when dealing with disabled people you have to be creative in your thinking to solve problems.

 

[russian_doll]

lets just stop
talking about the kids lol!