AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #7

[JaneSA]

'to help Karlie get away and hide'.....this is assuming the drug dependant 'carer' of Connie is on the money, which would be odd, him /her being the only one with this story, which, suddenly, they decide to tell the Advertiser.... this is also assuming that in a town of 26,000 people, Karlie is allowed to run up a $25,000 debt, no worries........I'm not buying it.

'to help Karlie lay a false trail'.... again, this has to assume the 'carer' of Connie has the story.

'think she was the original crimestoppers informant.. now , this is a huge huge leap... and if this is so, why on earth would she need a high priced barrister?? She should have been escorted to the police offices in cotton wool, with lunch provided. .. but it certainly didn't seem that way, as her last session with the detectives resulted in her being put 'under caution'....

As for the stuff you find convincing re 'relationships' and all that, that's a matter of individual opinion. God alone knows what Connie's Carer is going to come up with in the next few weeks on that subject, could be anything.

True. As you say, it is a matter of individual opinion.
However, there is also the interesting fact that nobody (family or police) has publicly denied the carer's story - well, so far anyway.

As for how she may have had a $25k debt, nobody knows, but there is no indication that it was due to her personal use.
I'd agree, the idea that she ran up a personal drug debt so big is very doubtful indeed.

 

[Trooper]

True. As you say, it is a matter of individual opinion.
However, there is also the interesting fact that nobody (family or police) has publicly denied the carer's story - well, so far anyway.

As for how she may have had a $25k debt, nobody knows, but there is no indication that it was due to her personal use.
I'd agree, the idea that she ran up a personal drug debt so big is very doubtful indeed.

Who is left of her family to repudiate this Connie Carer's stuff?? hardly anyone. .. and who can say if they have or haven't? Newspapers print what they want to. What is certain, is the SA and NSW police have never at any time agreed with any of this story which seems to have grown it's own feet and run all over the place without a skerrick of corroboration... just some junkie's ramblings . The police agree that the story was told, but they do not enlarge upon it as a working hypothesis in any sense of the word..

Of course, it is a handy story.. one could argue that the poor innocent Connie's Carer overheard a telephone conversation with the impersonator of Karlie, with this unnerving yarn to Karlie's gran.. a twist of cruelty that defies reason, and the carer runs with the story.. it certainly puts the kibosh on making a search for Karlie official, certainly shuts everyone up, almost instantly...

Or the carer , in a daze of hash 'saw' how it all went down, as they often do, you know.. some of the most alarming stories I have ever heard are given to me by wide-eyed users of mind altering substances complete with wild and outrageous detail, not a gram of which had a grain of truth in it.

 

[sleepinoz]

True. As you say, it is a matter of individual opinion.
However, there is also the interesting fact that nobody (family or police) has publicly denied the carer's story - well, so far anyway.

As for how she may have had a $25k debt, nobody knows, but there is no indication that it was due to her personal use.
I'd agree, the idea that she ran up a personal drug debt so big is very doubtful indeed.

Well they have denied it, but not in MSM - only in sources that are not permitted here.

 

[Wolfinator]

However, there is also the interesting fact that nobody (family or police) has publicly denied the carer's story - well, so far anyway.
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I think the family actually did with their statement released regarding the return of Kandles body.

"They ask, however, that no matter the rumour, innuendo and conjecture that all remember always that a mother and her child were needlessly and callously killed."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/30131708/grieving-pearce-stevenson-familys-text/

I'm thinking the biggest "innuendo" has to be coming from the "carer"

I think they would love to defend Karlie but again from their statement.

"They, in addition, desire respect for their right to silence - a silence intended to allow the wheels of justice to turn unimpeded, so please - they urge - do not ask them to comment at this time."




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[Makara]

I think the family actually did with their statement released regarding the return of Kandles body.

"They ask, however, that no matter the rumour, innuendo and conjecture that all remember always that a mother and her child were needlessly and callously killed."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/30131708/grieving-pearce-stevenson-familys-text/

I'm thinking the biggest "innuendo" has to be coming from the "carer"

I think they would love to defend Karlie but again from their statement.

"They, in addition, desire respect for their right to silence - a silence intended to allow the wheels of justice to turn unimpeded, so please - they urge - do not ask them to comment at this time."




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BBM: Thank you Wolfinator. I was just about to post the same thing. This link and quote have been posted here twice before in this thread. I'm going to add it to page one of each thread from here on in.

 

[1968]

Who is left of her family to repudiate this Connie Carer's stuff?? hardly anyone. .. and who can say if they have or haven't? Newspapers print what they want to. What is certain, is the SA and NSW police have never at any time agreed with any of this story which seems to have grown it's own feet and run all over the place without a skerrick of corroboration... just some junkie's ramblings . The police agree that the story was told, but they do not enlarge upon it as a working hypothesis in any sense of the word..

Of course, it is a handy story.. one could argue that the poor innocent Connie's Carer overheard a telephone conversation with the impersonator of Karlie, with this unnerving yarn to Karlie's gran.. a twist of cruelty that defies reason, and the carer runs with the story.. it certainly puts the kibosh on making a search for Karlie official, certainly shuts everyone up, almost instantly...

Or the carer , in a daze of hash 'saw' how it all went down, as they often do, you know.. some of the most alarming stories I have ever heard are given to me by wide-eyed users of mind altering substances complete with wild and outrageous detail, not a gram of which had a grain of truth in it.

Exactly. I am sure the police have spoken to the carer. The carer has a lot to say.
a lot of info re the alleged drugs and the drug debt, and unlike the rest of the family and the people who knew the family, he is warbling like a bird......whether it is the truth or not or something he imagined in a haze of smoke, is yet to be seen.

 

[Makara]

The informant reportedly claimed Ms Pearce-Stevenson allegedly fled Alice Springs with her daughter Khandalyce Pearce and the $25,000 in cash which was supposed to be used to buy drugs which were then to be smuggled interstate.
However, she never purchased the drugs.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...5-000-of-drug-debt-report#12sbp8s1yhiLc4fu.99

BBM: I find this intriguing. How does the informant know that Karlie never purchased the drugs? If he knows that she didn't purchase the drugs and that there was a hit out on her, why didn't he alert the police way back in 2008?

 

[sleepinoz]

The informant reportedly claimed Ms Pearce-Stevenson allegedly fled Alice Springs with her daughter Khandalyce Pearce and the $25,000 in cash which was supposed to be used to buy drugs which were then to be smuggled interstate.
However, she never purchased the drugs.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...5-000-of-drug-debt-report#12sbp8s1yhiLc4fu.99

BBM: I find this intriguing. How does the informant know that Karlie never purchased the drugs? If he knows that she didn't purchase the drugs and that there was a hit out on her, why didn't he alert the police way back in 2008?

IMO - he's telling his own story. He's just making Karlie the scapegoat to save his own neck, probably did the same in 2008.

 

[Puggle]

The informant reportedly claimed Ms Pearce-Stevenson allegedly fled Alice Springs with her daughter Khandalyce Pearce and the $25,000 in cash which was supposed to be used to buy drugs which were then to be smuggled interstate.
However, she never purchased the drugs.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...5-000-of-drug-debt-report#12sbp8s1yhiLc4fu.99

BBM: I find this intriguing. How does the informant know that Karlie never purchased the drugs? If he knows that she didn't purchase the drugs and that there was a hit out on her, why didn't he alert the police way back in 2008?

Because he himself was involved....??

 

[Trooper]

The informant reportedly claimed Ms Pearce-Stevenson allegedly fled Alice Springs with her daughter Khandalyce Pearce and the $25,000 in cash which was supposed to be used to buy drugs which were then to be smuggled interstate.
However, she never purchased the drugs.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...5-000-of-drug-debt-report#12sbp8s1yhiLc4fu.99

BBM: I find this intriguing. How does the informant know that Karlie never purchased the drugs? If he knows that she didn't purchase the drugs and that there was a hit out on her, why didn't he alert the police way back in 2008?

oh its all part of the yarn.... the figure of $25,000 is a dead giveaway ... maybe he wants to somehow claim $25,000 from Karlie's 'estate'.... he being the owner of the original 25 thou, of course, it's his money , you see, and someone in authority needs to pay it back, he saved it up out of his carers' pension, you know, and trusting fool that he was.. .. you can see how this story pans out, right?

 

[Trooper]

ask any drug addled idiot in Alice Springs what is the necessary amount of money one would like to have as disposable to buy a big bag of you know what, and guess what??.. they' each and every one will say 'oooo about $25,000!!!....'.....

 

[Panda]

The informant reportedly claimed Ms Pearce-Stevenson allegedly fled Alice Springs with her daughter Khandalyce Pearce and the $25,000 in cash which was supposed to be used to buy drugs which were then to be smuggled interstate.
However, she never purchased the drugs.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...5-000-of-drug-debt-report#12sbp8s1yhiLc4fu.99

BBM: I find this intriguing. How does the informant know that Karlie never purchased the drugs? If he knows that she didn't purchase the drugs and that there was a hit out on her, why didn't he alert the police way back in 2008?

I was thinking precisely the same thing.

 

[JLZ]

Because he himself was involved....??

My fantasies are running the same way. He put up some money (not $25K) and never received his dope. Scammed. They told him it was his mate Karlie's fault, she went off with twenty-five thousand and never brought back the goods. If they ever caught up with her . . . she better look out.

However, it seems Karlie was coming and going in Alice Springs until late 2008. If she ran off with the money, it could only have happened at the very end, and not have been the cause of her departure, because you wouldn't keep popping back into town after such a theft, would you?

 

[JaneSA]

Who is left of her family to repudiate this Connie Carer's stuff?? hardly anyone. .. and who can say if they have or haven't? Newspapers print what they want to. What is certain, is the SA and NSW police have never at any time agreed with any of this story which seems to have grown it's own feet and run all over the place without a skerrick of corroboration... just some junkie's ramblings . The police agree that the story was told, but they do not enlarge upon it as a working hypothesis in any sense of the word..

Of course, it is a handy story.. one could argue that the poor innocent Connie's Carer overheard a telephone conversation with the impersonator of Karlie, with this unnerving yarn to Karlie's gran.. a twist of cruelty that defies reason, and the carer runs with the story.. it certainly puts the kibosh on making a search for Karlie official, certainly shuts everyone up, almost instantly...

Or the carer , in a daze of hash 'saw' how it all went down, as they often do, you know.. some of the most alarming stories I have ever heard are given to me by wide-eyed users of mind altering substances complete with wild and outrageous detail, not a gram of which had a grain of truth in it.

We can't say that the carer is a junkie, Trooper.
There is nothing to suggest that other than a fine for possessing marijuana.
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[Puggle]

My fantasies are running the same way. He put up some money (not $25K) and never received his dope. Scammed. They told him it was his mate Karlie's fault, she went off with twenty-five thousand and never brought back the goods. If they ever caught up with her . . . she better look out.

However, it seems Karlie was coming and going in Alice Springs until late 2008. If she ran off with the money, it could only have happened at the very end, and not have been the cause of her departure, because you wouldn't keep popping back into town after such a theft, would you?

I am not really sure JLZ ........ Sure I hold some speculation in my mind...and it involves multiple people outside of the "players" we have seen so far.

My rational mind tells me *If* this persons statements are true....then there are many people involved and aware of the situation.....it's just a matter of..... if the "situation" ??? actually had a relevance in Karlie's or Kandalyce's eventual murder???

 

[Trooper]

We can't say that the carer is a junkie, Trooper.
There is nothing to suggest that other than a fine for possessing marijuana.

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I can say the carer is a junkie.. a fine for possessing marijuana is all it takes. There are no degrees of junkieism.. one is, or one isn't, and if you are in the unfortunate position of being found to possess an illegal amount , then the title of junkie is entirely appropriate..

So. junkie, it is..

and as for the remainder of Karlie's family, they have been extremely dignified in not giving the carer the time of day, rather, they have made it quite clear that they will let justice take its course, which leaves me with the distinct impression that the junkie carer will get his, if , indeed, it hasn't already happened...

 

[Puggle]

I have hit a paywall on a previous article I was able to view.

Can anyone confirm if my notes are correct - that Connie Duffy <modsnip> "Nana" became concerned on the 4th of September 2008, because she realised Karlie hadn't accessed her centrelink payments. ??

 

[JaneSA]

The informant reportedly claimed Ms Pearce-Stevenson allegedly fled Alice Springs with her daughter Khandalyce Pearce and the $25,000 in cash which was supposed to be used to buy drugs which were then to be smuggled interstate.
However, she never purchased the drugs.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...5-000-of-drug-debt-report#12sbp8s1yhiLc4fu.99

BBM: I find this intriguing. How does the informant know that Karlie never purchased the drugs? If he knows that she didn't purchase the drugs and that there was a hit out on her, why didn't he alert the police way back in 2008?

Yep, I wondered previously on this thread how he could know she never purchased the drugs.
I am guessing that the $25k was taken/stolen from her and she told the carer when trying to get help.
I'm imagining a scene that goes "give us the money first and we'll be back with the drugs", except the seller never came back.

Given that her mother was helping her by paying money into her account, probably all 3 (mother, grandmother and carer) knew how much trouble she was in.
And once the word got around about the $5k bounty they'd have been so scared for her and Khandles.
Gosh, they'd be beside themselves with worry!

As for why the carer didn't alert the police at the time, I'd assume that the police are considered the natural enemy of anyone involved with drug distribution.
Telling the police what was going on, while it might seem obvious to anyone who lives on the right side of the law, would have seemed like dobbing Karlie in and potentially exposing her to even greater danger from whoever was after her.

Even the missing persons report being so quickly stopped makes sense now.
Possibly they just thought better of it and worried they would be risking exposing Karlie by asking her to come home.
Perhaps there never was a call from someone impersonating Karlie, but they just said that to the police in order to close the file quickly.

 

[sosocurious]

I have hit a paywall on a previous article I was able to view.

Can anyone confirm if my notes are correct - that Connie Duffy (Nee Wilson) "Nana" became concerned on the 4th of September 2008, because she realised Karlie hadn't accessed her centrelink payments. ??

Does not mention the date Pug
Connie was concerned that Karlie had not touched her centerlink payments for a fortnight she became concerned......late in 2008 began looking for her..


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...vestigators-told/story-fni6uo1m-1227599497241

 

[Anonamouse]

IMO the ex-friend/former friend is an ex-girlfriend or fiancee and the reference to reading his history is his Facebook.

totally agree !!