AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #8

[DutchTreat]

yet Khandalyce is confirmed by police as being sighted in Canberra..

Do you have a link about that statement, cause all I can find is an unconfirmed sighting.

 

[Makara]

Do you have a link about that statement, cause all I can find is an unconfirmed sighting.

Those responsible for murdering young mother impersonated her for almost three years

Natalie Whiting reported this story on Tuesday, October 27, 2015 18:35:00

DES BRAY: And the last recorded sighting is now confirmed as being in Charnwood in Canberra. We believe that Karlie and Khandalyce were killed at different times and at different locations but we can't say anymore about that at the moment.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4339988.htm

 

[Trooper]

The informant in his media interview said Karlie returned to Alice briefly while on the run.
So presumably that was the Nov trip.

http://www.pressreader.com/australia/nt-news/20151107/282196534832497/TextView

Maybe Daniel Holdom was both the partner of Karlie, and the 'bounty hunter'.. who else would be better placed for a successful outcome? perhaps his whizzy trip to Alice Springs was to collect his $5000 payment!..

 

[inkpink]

Police believe that at least one of those involved in the phone and bank scam was also responsible for the murders.

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-pol...l-service-area/task-force-mallee#.VlpjrXYvdki

Well that's interesting. Official police statement.

Wow, it is. What do you make of this?

I think DH was involved in the the scam side of things but are they referring to the 2 females here.....?

 

[possumheart]

Maybe Daniel Holdom was both the partner of Karlie, and the 'bounty hunter'.. who else would be better placed for a successful outcome? perhaps his whizzy trip to Alice Springs was to collect his $5000 payment!..

The insinuation that Karlie was 'stomped to death' or similar is at odds with any mental picture I have of a 'bounty hunter'. It seems more impulsive. IMO

 

[DutchTreat]

Those responsible for murdering young mother impersonated her for almost three years

Natalie Whiting reported this story on Tuesday, October 27, 2015 18:35:00



http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4339988.htm

Oh wow, thanks Makara.
Well there goes my theory about Karlie having handed Khandalyce over to someone to take care of her.
So I guess they most likely weren't split up until (or shortly before) Karlie died.
God I hope Khandalyce didn't witness anything.

I guess that we can assume that Khandalyce in any case had to travel from Canberra at least until Wynarka. Either alive or dead.

 

[inkpink]

Those responsible for murdering young mother impersonated her for almost three years

Natalie Whiting reported this story on Tuesday, October 27, 2015 18:35:00



http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4339988.htm

The text is a little out of context. If you listen to the radio recording its a snippet of recording from Des Bray and you don't not what he says prior to that. He could have said Karlie and Khandalyce or just Karlie. Not saying it isn't the case but it would be good to have the full verbal statement.

ETA: That was in reference to when the last official sighting of Khandalyce was.

 

[DutchTreat]

Wow, it is. What do you make of this?

I think DH was involved in the the scam side of things but are they referring to the 2 females here.....?

The way I interpret this is that Khandalyce must have been killed by DH too since he is the person that has already been charged with one of the murders.
If this statement is correct (which I assume it is) it's just a matter of doing the math.
And that there may be one or more people that also participated in the phone and bank scam that were also involved in the murder(s).

 

[JLZ]

Maybe Daniel Holdom was both the partner of Karlie, and the 'bounty hunter'.. who else would be better placed for a successful outcome? perhaps his whizzy trip to Alice Springs was to collect his $5000 payment!..

I'll float my kooky thought about the $5000. The carer, having been scammed of his drug money (they told him Karlie ran off with it), is double-scammed into putting up $5000 to bring back Karlie and the drugs or the money. Later when he's telling the story, the $5000 becomes "bounty" and he neglects to mention that he offered and paid the bounty himself.

 

[Trooper]

or,, in a parallel world, Holdom is the one with the bounty on his head for having scarpered off with $25,000 of investors money, Granma's Carer got the story cackhanded backwards, and Karlie is the bounty hunter, instructed to get the money back, and so she calls in at Mt Gambier to get a suitcase big enough to carry all this in, and then she arrives in Canberra, tracking Holdom down and somehow Holdom gets wind of this hunter, and drags her into Belanglo and murders her, and then , taking her key card and kid, he screams off to Broadview SA and then up to see 'Mr Big" in Alice Springs, tells him he couldn't get the money back but she wont be a bother anymore, ( and Mr Big keeps quiet about this ) and collects the $5000 and jiggles back to Broadview, and then back to Canberra , oh, where is Khandalyce, .. .. ah.. back in a moment. I have to think this stuff thru..

 

[DutchTreat]

Maybe Daniel Holdom was both the partner of Karlie, and the 'bounty hunter'.. who else would be better placed for a successful outcome? perhaps his whizzy trip to Alice Springs was to collect his $5000 payment!..

He would have had to confess a murder and show proof he committed a murder. He could have been blackmailed with that for the rest of his life.

 

[Trooper]

I'll float my kooky thought about the $5000. The carer, having been scammed of his drug money (they told him Karlie ran off with it), is double-scammed into putting up $5000 to bring back Karlie and the drugs or the money. Later when he's telling the story, the $5000 becomes "bounty" and he neglects to mention that he offered and paid the bounty himself.

now that one is a beauty... . it has an edge to it that I can only admire.

 

[Makara]

The text is a little out of context. If you listen to the radio recording its a snippet of recording from Des Bray and you don't not what he says prior to that. He could have said Karlie and Khandalyce or just Karlie. Not saying it isn't the case but it would be good to have the full verbal statement.

ETA: That was in reference to when the last official sighting of Khandalyce was.

It was an unconfirmed sighting of both Karlie and Khandalyce as reported on 23 October 2015. The Canberra sighting is then confirmed by Des Bray in the article I posted up thread. That article is dated 27 October 2015.

If Khandalyce wasn't sighted with Karlie in Canberra I feel sure the police would have made that clear. They would have put it out there for people to come forward who may have seen Khandalyce without her mother after that date.

The searched homes are believed to be connected with an unconfirmed sighting of the mother and daughter in the ACT in December 2008.

BBM:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-23/police-search-homes-in-sa-canberra-mother-daughter/6879814
Updated 23 Oct 2015, 10:50pm

 

[DutchTreat]

The text is a little out of context. If you listen to the radio recording its a snippet of recording from Des Bray and you don't not what he says prior to that. He could have said Karlie and Khandalyce or just Karlie. Not saying it isn't the case but it would be good to have the full verbal statement.

ETA: That was in reference to when the last official sighting of Khandalyce was.

Yes, when you listen to the audio, Des Bray only says 'and THE last reported sighting is now confirmed as being in Charnwood'.
He does NOT say that it was both Karlie and Khandalyce.
So I'm back to where I was before.
There also is NO official statement on the SAPOL police site of an official confirmation that BOTH mother and daughter were seen in Charnwood.

 

[Trooper]

He would have had to confess a murder and show proof he committed a murder. He could have been blackmailed with that for the rest of his life.

blackmailed by 'Mr Big'?? I don't know.. Holdom would surely have stuff to blackmail 'Mr Big' about, .. blackmail isn't the kind of successful enterprise that drug dealers and buyers and sellers engage in usually. Is that common in Holland? Confessing to murder is probably nothing to ripple the surface about in those worlds.. after all, Holdom would be doing in on Mr Big's orders, not that he would get any discount on sentencing should he be caught, quite the opposite, he would be tariffed with a longer one, but so would Mr B.. it would be a Mexican standoff, if anything.

 

[Amee]

Investigators revealed for the first time they believe the pair were murdered in mid-to-late December 2008, with the last confirmed sighting of mother and daughter at Charnwood in the ACT only a short time before disappearing.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/girl...hree-years-20151027-gkjx44.html#ixzz3sqfbAHVO

 

[JLZ]

If the Charnwood "sighting" was a CCTV capture, it might be unclear from the image whether Khandalyce was accompanying Karlie or not.

 

[DutchTreat]

It was an unconfirmed sighting of both Karlie and Khandalyce as reported on 23 October 2015. The Canberra sighting is then confirmed by Des Bray in the article I posted up thread. That article is dated 27 October 2015.

If Khandalyce wasn't sighted with Karlie in Canberra I feel sure the police would have made that clear. They would have put it out there for people to come forward who may have seen Khandalyce without her mother after that date.



BBM:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-23/police-search-homes-in-sa-canberra-mother-daughter/6879814
Updated 23 Oct 2015, 10:50pm

It also says unconfirmed in the scentence you quoted.

So when Des Bray says: 'The last reported sighting' how sure can we be that he's not referring to another sighting.

Cause if the last confirmed sighting was of BOTH mother and daughter, IMO that SHOULD be on the SAPOL site, cause that is quite crucial for any possible witness sightings.

 

[Wolfinator]

It was an unconfirmed sighting of both Karlie and Khandalyce as reported on 23 October 2015. The Canberra sighting is then confirmed by Des Bray in the article I posted up thread. That article is dated 27 October 2015.

If Khandalyce wasn't sighted with Karlie in Canberra I feel sure the police would have made that clear. They would have put it out there for people to come forward who may have seen Khandalyce without her mother after that date.



BBM:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-23/police-search-homes-in-sa-canberra-mother-daughter/6879814
Updated 23 Oct 2015, 10:50pm

I've always found Des Bray's choice of words in the press conference interesting.

DES BRAY: And the last recorded sighting is now confirmed as being in Charnwood in Canberra. We believe that Karlie and Khandalyce were killed at different times and at different locations but we can't say anymore about that at the moment.

The choice of the word - last RECORDED sighting is now confirmed....

- photograph or CCTV reference?

Does that mean there are more sightings that were not "recorded" - I think yes....

And if you straight away read his next sentence about "different times and locations" - it has led me to believe that there were "sightings" of the non recorded variety that separated mother and daughter post 14/15 December - IMO

I think there are LOTS of witness statements to come - people we have never heard of who are helping LE obtain justice for K&K.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4339988.htm


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[DutchTreat]

If the Charnwood "sighting" was a CCTV capture, it might be unclear from the image whether Khandalyce was accompanying Karlie or not.

Or if it could have been another blond two year old. Cause where was HP's blond toddler at that time?
And where was Karlie staying? And could there have been another blond little child at that place?