AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce, Wynarka, Bones of a Child Discovered, July'15 - #5

[Morrisa]

probably not related but......
https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/29286935/mystery-bones-found-at-sa-cemetery/

 

[ninjabynight]

If we accept that suitcase-man is somehow involved - and because he has not come forward and his behaviour is so odd I think we must assume that - then we have to come up with a reason why he was seen on different days, in different places, over the period of 44 days, and carrying a dark suitcase.

It has never seemed possible that the suitcase on the roadside could be the same one the man was carrying because it is much too faded for the time it has been in the bush.

Add to that, that the case on the roadside was reportedly seen BEFORE suitcase-man began wandering about over a period of 44 days carrying his black case, I think we must assume he was searching for the case.

It seems to me that the only logical conclusion is that the case was taken without permission and hidden, yet suitcase-man had some vague idea of where it was hidden and was searching to retrieve it.

If only we knew exactly where he had been seen and on what days, it might help to form a picture of how methodical his search was.

Did he, for example, begin at Karoonda and search the roadside scrub on foot a kilometer a day for 44 days?

But if so, why didn't he find the case just 2ks out of Wynarka? We know he was in that area, but perhaps the case by that stage was so close to the road (remember it was moved to the verge and the contents were scattered) that he felt too exposed to retrieve it.

Also, the remains by this time were separated from the clothing and placed under a bush, so maybe he couldn't find them.

Still, the fact that numerous people have reported seeing the case and some reported rummaging through it, you'd think suitcase-man could have found it too. Or maybe that's the problem. By the time he found it, random people were stopping for a look, so he was trying to collect it at a time when there was no traffic, yet failed to do so.

Or perhaps he just never got to that spot.
If the person who hid it only said it was "in scrub near Wynarka" maybe he was searching other places than the main highway.

I don't really know where I am going with this idea, but I just cannot see any other reason for the 44 day time period other than searching. And if his behaviour was not related to the case, then I can see no other reason why he hasn't come forward.

If this is correct, then in some form this man is being blackmailed (financial or emotional) and there is another person somewhere who can expose him at any moment.

It doesn't necessarily mean suitcase-man is the murderer though, as he may be concealing the crime for someone he loves.

I also find it plausible that the suitcase man was out looking to retrieve the case on the occasions he was sighted, probably carrying a different and bigger case in which to pack the first one.

However, I can't support the notion that "the only logical conclusion is that the case was taken without permission and hidden".

For example, some other possible scenarios might be:

1) The suitcase man himself hastily disposed of the case in the first instance and has then changed his mind about this method of disposal and gone back to retrieve the case.

2) There is a second person involved, known to the suitcase man, who in agreement with the suitcase man disposed of the case in a way that was subsequently unsatisfactory to the suitcase man for whatever reason. And then he went to retrieve it.

3) There is a second person involved, known to the suitcase man, who has been confronted about his/her crime by the suitcase man. In the hysteria that this confrontation must have stirred up, he/she has rushed to dispose of the case, not really thinking things through. Perhaps in this scenario suitcase man does not want the second person to get in trouble, so he has attempted to go and retrieve the case.

To play further with the theory that the suitcase man was retrieving the case...
On the first trip to retrieve the case the suitcase man would have set out with no idea that anyone had stumbled across it. (I have been surprised, in fact, at just how many people stopped for a snoop - I can see why someone might assume that the suitcase would remain untouched at least for quite a while). He may or may not have found the case. If he found it, he may have gone to pick it up only to find it unlatched and the contents may have accidentally spilled out. The prospect of picking up all of the remains may have been too much on that occasion, and he fled without further action (all speculation of course, but accounting for the fact that so far as we know the person who tipped out the case also has not come forward).

On another occasion he may have had a second crack at retrieval, again perhaps not finding the case, or perhaps otherwise coming upon a scene in which more interference with the suitcase had clearly taken place. If this is the case then I'm sure paranoia would set in and he would have to wonder if he had been caught out or was even being watched. Perhaps, again, he fled without successfully retrieving the case.

 

[browneyedsusan]

I'm happy you guys were able to find this, you just may have cracked the case. I wish I had been of any help, buit I don't see anuything ion that quilt that was found. I'm confused to see the camel material. I Thought it was black with a heart on it's tail? Well , congrats to you if that means anything at all to you.

 

[AtaraMalka]

Lives in Riyadh KSA where is this do you know? This is the main blogger for the quilt.

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Saudi Arabia - presumably a bunch of ex-pats or foreign professionals there who are into quilts.

 

[AtaraMalka]

I'm happy you guys were able to find this, you just may have cracked the case. I wish I had been of any help, buit I don't see anuything ion that quilt that was found. I'm confused to see the camel material. I Thought it was black with a heart on it's tail? Well , congrats to you if that means anything at all to you.

I think the quilt sleuths are amazing too! I don't know anything about quilting and I'm not very artistic so I can't really assist. But it's great to see things slowly but surely taking shape.

 

[Silverdraco69]

Saudi Arabia - presumably a bunch of ex-pats or foreign professionals there?

This is what I wrote to her.


Hello,

I hope you don't mind me emailing you. I'm part of a group of people on a website called webslueths *and we are trying to figure out what the patterns on this quilt that was found in a suitcase with the bones of a little girl in South *Australia.*


Here is picture of your quilt and there *is a camel on the top left. What is the name of the company who supplies it?


This *next picture unfortunately is not too pretty to look at but if you are able *to help we all would appreciate your *help.



Thank *you *

Eileen *



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[browneyedsusan]

Lives in Riyadh KSA where is this do you know? This is the main blogger for the quilt.
I emailed the lady about the names of the company's
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I said the child might be middle eastern because they used the camel. Oh wow! I thought also because so few clothes were American that it might be her real clothes and the Aussie clothes were smoke screen or stolen from the dump like the others said.

 

[AtaraMalka]

Interesting thoughts on the possibilities here.

My view is that once we get another update from police regarding the actual number of sightings of this man, and the dates - or at least the number of separate occasions on which he was seen - we will be a lot further forward.

For example, if he was seen not only by more witnesses, but on more dates, things might look very different. (I'm not even sure how at this point, it's just and example). It seems clear that there were indeed many more witnesses than the ones we know of so far, and it will be interesting to see what they have to say. (I'm kind of frustrated that we haven't been told much more on that, but I suppose there must be a good reason.)

There are so many jigsaw pieces missing at the moment, I feel that even just a little more information could explain a great deal.

Or leave us with even more unanswered questions......

 

[AtaraMalka]

This is what I wrote to her.


Hello,

I hope you don't mind me emailing you. I'm part of a group of people on a website called webslueths *and we are trying to figure out what the patterns on this quilt that was found in a suitcase with the bones of a little girl in South *Australia.*


Here is picture of your quilt and there *is a camel on the top left. What is the name of the company who supplies it?


This *next picture unfortunately is not too pretty to look at but if you are able *to help we all would appreciate your *help.



Thank *you *

Eileen *



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Well done!

I wonder if that quilt contains other squares that could have been used in our quilt? If there are common fabrics or patterns that quilters collect, there could be more matches here....

I'm no use personally because I'm not a quilter...let's hope our quilting friends have some ideas.

 

[Silverdraco69]

I am not a quilter either. I was fortunate to have the ability to look at patterns and look for simular shapes, pictures and etc. I really hope this helps.

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[JaneSA]

Yes - or post-suicidal

Hmmm.. yep, wondering that too.

 

[Karo]

Just my opinion, I have friends who make quilts and also belong to some groups who make charity quilts like Quilts For Kids. I have donated similar fabrics as in the quilt.
I too think this pattern is easily done, far too easy for paper piecing or applique and very simple to make using the snowball pattern, sewing a square across each corner and flipping it.

JMO but, just because there was a handmade quilt with the bones of this child does not mean that someone is out there who must be worried about where this child is.

I have made a lot of quilts throughout my years. Some of those quilts have been for children of my ex-husband's family, ex co-worker's children and I have even sold some quilts that I have made. I wouldn't wonder where any of those children were as they aren't in my life.

Also, I have heard that this quilt would have been made by an advanced quilter. I disagree with that theory. This quilt was paper pieced and was not a traditionally made quilt. Basically, it was more of an appliqued together quilt. It was made by using one very large piece of material as a backing piece and then hexagons were sewn on one at a time.

There is much less precision and skill required when making a quilt in this fashion as compared to when you sew triangles to each corner of the hexagon to form squares and then sew all of the squares into rows and sew the rows together to form the quilt top. There would be no matching up the corners, no points to match up, it is a quilt that a beginner could do with ease. Especially since they used a sewing machine to attach each hexagon and didn't do any hand sewing.

This is JMO based on a lifetime of quilting and sewing experience.

 

[musicaljoke]

This is what I wrote to her.


Hello,

I hope you don't mind me emailing you. I'm part of a group of people on a website called webslueths *and we are trying to figure out what the patterns on this quilt that was found in a suitcase with the bones of a little girl in South *Australia.*


Here is picture of your quilt and there *is a camel on the top left. What is the name of the company who supplies it?


This *next picture unfortunately is not too pretty to look at but if you are able *to help we all would appreciate your *help.



Thank *you *

Eileen *



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Hey Eileen, I believe that the supplier of the camel fabric was found back on the precious thread. If I remember correctly, it was Timeless Treasures Fabrics, and the print is called "Sphinx" and it was made in the US. The distributer was contacted and it was reported that none of this fabric had been imported into Australia.

But, it's still useful to contact them and maybe find out if the quilter shared any octagons with anyone else. Maybe there's a connection somewhere.

 

[bearbear]

im thinking this a very local crime by either a domestic violence situation or local unregistered paedophile who brought the clothes quilt etc at an op shop to dress her up, the little angels body may have been held onto because they were afraid of being caught, but now theyre moving away, selling property going to hospital etc or suiciding.
i think they just wanted to dump the body away from home and this seemed the easiest place for them
this person may have lived in the area years ago and hidden the body but now worried new owners, tenants may find it?

 

[musicaljoke]

I am not a quilter either. I was fortunate to have the ability to look at patterns and look for simular shapes, pictures and etc. I really hope this helps.

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I'm sure it does help! Thank you for putting time into this.
These fabrics have been identified so far:

Camel print is "Sphinx" by Timeless Treasures
"Teddy Time" by Timeless Treasures.
Music note fabric is by Shamash and Sons, possibly named "Jazz".
The dragonflies prints are made by Inprint Makower
The "Goofy Geckos" is made by Exclusively Quilters.
The pumpkin gingham is possibly vintage.

(pardon me for reposting an earlier message)

 

[Oona]

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but this seems to be the exact layout of the quilt.
It is called a snowball pattern and has octagon patches.http://quilting.about.com/od/quiltpatternsprojects/ss/floral-snowball-quilt.htm#step1

 

[Camp Chair]

Would be great if the likes of Australian Patchwork & Quilting magazine were to generously feature a spot seeking help from readers to identify fabrics or any other helpful clues - reach quilters who may not be internet savvy. Just thinking of my MIL's circle who would fall into this category. They all share/pass around mags too - ending up in caravan park laundry rooms, Dr's surgeries, hospitals etc etc.

 

[Silverdraco69]

I'm sure it does help! Thank you for putting time into this.
These fabrics have been identified so far:

Camel print is "Sphinx" by Timeless Treasures
"Teddy Time" by Timeless Treasures.
Music note fabric is by Shamash and Sons, possibly named "Jazz".
The dragonflies prints are made by Inprint Makower
The "Goofy Geckos" is made by Exclusively Quilters.
The pumpkin gingham is possibly vintage.

(pardon me for reposting an earlier message)

Thank you.. I must have missed the update.. I just saw it and thought.. hmm you never know [emoji39]

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[Makara]

Thank you.. I must have missed the update.. I just saw it and thought.. hmm you never know [emoji39]

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Thank you Silverdraco69. Good spotting with the camel print. Every little bit helps.

 

[kiwi50]

We have so few facts that I'm not hung up on any particular theory at this point, the two things I want to know at this point is why the police think the bones are only seven years old, have we ever been told that wee girl was " wearing" ( for want of a better word) any of the clothes in suitcase.
The other thing I would love to know is where the " Colt" family lived in SA and are any of that family who were not arrested still living in SA. We have no idea how many of their children were born and died off grid.