Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

Tayla could have been a courier for any private company in the area, as an employee, but more likely as a contractor with an ABN (Australian Business Number). She has in the past held an ABN but it appears to be cancelled. She could have started up her own courier service, complete with uniform, or attached herself to anything that may be available in the area, like Uber Eats, Door Dash, etc.

Back in the day I used to do postal deliveries in my car for a contractor of Australia Post. I delivered to country areas and didn't have a uniform, despite being connected to Australia Post and delivering on their behalf. No red uniform, no hi-vis gear, just my regular clothes.
Thanks for checking the ABN as I was wondering about that. There’s a chance then (as there’s no apparent ABN) that she was employed by a company and that company has a purple logo.

Or she was self employed and jobs were cash in hand or something. It’s alleged that Taylor had an employee, which gives a stronger impression that she worked for herself.

If Tayla had another delivery after Surat on the way home, it could explain why TN may have gone ahead to Roma without her.
 
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I'm interested to know about the area her body was found. Moving a body is not easy, and moving a body even a few days after the death in 35*c (95*f?) weather would be completely unfathomable. It would be rotten after 48 hours.

The car itself was 2km into this property, and the remains found approximately 1km away from the car. I'm not sure it's been stated which direction but it's possible she was 3km into this property.

Does anyone know if a map was published showing the location of the car? It would be interesting to see the terrain involved.

Even though I suspect foul play, if it turns out that the only way in there was walking, then perhaps it's the case that she went on a final bender and passed away out there.
 
I'm interested to know about the area her body was found. Moving a body is not easy, and moving a body even a few days after the death in 35*c (95*f?) weather would be completely unfathomable. It would be rotten after 48 hours.

The car itself was 2km into this property, and the remains found approximately 1km away from the car. I'm not sure it's been stated which direction but it's possible she was 3km into this property.

Does anyone know if a map was published showing the location of the car? It would be interesting to see the terrain involved.

Even though I suspect foul play, if it turns out that the only way in there was walking, then perhaps it's the case that she went on a final bender and passed away out there.
Possibly a vehicle had driven there with her body and she was thrown out. We don't know whether it was her vehicle or another one used, but remains were easily discovered by police and we don't know what other evidence was discovered with her or her personal belongings
 
Cancelled since 2017 seems odd?
I thought her events planning business was on the back burner but still active. Her partner has a current ABN. Maybe they worked together, hence being together near Surat (and even Dalby that weekend)? 🤷‍♀️

  • ABN last updated: 02 Aug 2021
I'd say it was more recently cancelled.

It wouldn't be odd to cancel an ABN, or to not have one. My brother runs a small side business and his accountant advised he didn't need one. From the internet:

'If your business has annual turnover of $75,000 or more, you are required by law to get an Australian Business Number. Businesses with an annual income of less than $75,000 are not required to have an ABN'. www.ldb.com.au/business-advisory/abn-what-is-an-australian-business-number-and-when-do-i-need-one/
 
It's a week now since Taylas car and body were found.

Usually the preliminary report is within a couple of days so what she died from is possibly already known to her family.

But the full autopsy report covering any complexities in a case, ongoing specialists testing etc , could take weeks, months even.

Another heartbreaking wait for her family before Tayla is laid to rest.

The events leading up to the day she went missing on Sunday Feb 2, is very odd to say the least.

So many conflicting reports between her family members and those of her friends and news medias.

Her partner at the time was the one who reported her missing, the Monday morning after.

She had a troubled life it seems and her ex partner had been incarcerated many times.

Any person associated to this case, would all be suspects for police.

I suspect there will be some more news on this case very soon.

The police are building their case.

JMO
 
It's a week now since Taylas car and body were found.

Usually the preliminary report is within a couple of days so what she died from is possibly already known to her family.

But the full autopsy report covering any complexities in a case, ongoing specialists testing etc , could take weeks, months even.

Another heartbreaking wait for her family before Tayla is laid to rest.

The events leading up to the day she went missing on Sunday Feb 2, is very odd to say the least.

So many conflicting reports between her family members and those of her friends and news medias.

Her partner at the time was the one who reported her missing, the Monday morning after.

She had a troubled life it seems and her ex partner had been incarcerated many times.

Any person associated to this case, would all be suspects for police.

I suspect there will be some more news on this case very soon.

The police are building their case.

JMO
I was just thinking it's been a while since the car and her body were found, yet nothing has been made public about the findings so far. I'm betting the police are building a case, and short listing their suspects. No news is hopefully good news for the case.
 
Possibly a vehicle had driven there with her body and she was thrown out. We don't know whether it was her vehicle or another one used, but remains were easily discovered by police and we don't know what other evidence was discovered with her or her personal belongings

Just a thought

Maybe she’s only been deceased since the car was put on the property?

That could be why her body was found fairly quickly after the car was found ?

Everything is very quiet besides some Facebook posts being deleted .
 
Just a thought

Maybe she’s only been deceased since the car was put on the property?

That could be why her body was found fairly quickly after the car was found ?

Everything is very quiet besides some Facebook posts being deleted .
Agree totally.

I also have a theory that someone saw the person drop it off and reported them to the police.

I also have a theory that she may have been alive for a period of time and the family perhaps knew this and that was why they left that strange note at her fathers gravesite.

It wasn't a, Tayla we love you and need you to come home, type note.

It was a note that said, " "We understand. Everything is going to be OK."
 
Just a thought

Maybe she’s only been deceased since the car was put on the property?

That could be why her body was found fairly quickly after the car was found ?

Everything is very quiet besides some Facebook posts being deleted .
I would have thought that if she only died a week or so ago, police wouldn't call her body 'remains'. Not even in heat and rain. They would have referred to finding a 'body'.
If your theory is correct, where has she and her ute been? Would have been another vehicle involved, or do you think she drove herself there? Surely someone would have seen her vehicle?
So many theories, so little facts that we know. Hopefully there is closure for her family soon.

MOO.
 
I would have thought that if she only died a week or so ago, police wouldn't call her body 'remains'. Not even in heat and rain. They would have referred to finding a 'body'.
If your theory is correct, where has she and her ute been? Would have been another vehicle involved, or do you think she drove herself there? Surely someone would have seen her vehicle?
So many theories, so little facts that we know. Hopefully there is closure for her family soon.

MOO.
I’m not sure . Even if she has been deceased for two weeks in the weather we’ve had the decomposition would have been advanced .

I don’t believe the car could have been missed by the land owner . However I don’t believe it was too far away as it would have been seen on the road. That’s just my opinion

Keep an eye on the families FB missing Tayla Spies page . They just opened up being able to post again .
 
I’m not sure . Even if she has been deceased for two weeks in the weather we’ve had the decomposition would have been advanced .

I don’t believe the car could have been missed by the land owner . However I don’t believe it was too far away as it would have been seen on the road. That’s just my opinion

Keep an eye on the families FB missing Tayla Spies page . They just opened up being able to post again .
Agree, someone put that car and her there IMO
I dont believe the property owner missed it months back because it wasn't there IMO
I think there is so much more to all this and hopefully the public hear about it
 
I’m not sure . Even if she has been deceased for two weeks in the weather we’ve had the decomposition would have been advanced .

I don’t believe the car could have been missed by the land owner . However I don’t believe it was too far away as it would have been seen on the road. That’s just my opinion

Keep an eye on the families FB missing Tayla Spies page . They just opened up being able to post again .
I totally believe the car wasn't missed by the land owner. The property could be huge, many in the area are, and the owner/staff would not travel every inch of the property daily, or even regularly. It was 2km off the road, through at least 2 gates, and we know that at least some of the area was treed. I live in the country, and a lot of the area around here is paddocks without huge amounts of trees. I struggle to picture myself being able to see a car 2km away even in paddocks with far less trees. It was also on the edge of a state forest, so could have been very well camouflaged without even trying, based on the terrain.
 
He didn't actually say "pretty sure I checked there" at all. He WASNT searching for Tayla in an afternoon search at all that day.
His property is massive, owners with lands like that DONT go "checking" the whole area everyday. It's impossible.
They basically move cattle from one area to another, or do work in one area over a week or two, then move onto another area the following week.

What was likely to have occurred was, on his last run in that area the car was found, he could have been dropping feed for his cattle, mending fences, etc, Which he would have done a fortnight before. There's been heavy rain and flooding out that way.

He actually said, "the car wasn't there 12 days ago". So that's indicative of exactly what farmers do, go out to drop food for livestock once a week or once a fortnight, depending on the weather conditions. Or moving herd. Or repairing fences. Or cutting down trees.
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I’m suggesting it would have been a cursory look at best. As you say… didn’t notice anything the last time he was there during other work/duties.

It’s being accepted as gospel that there was no possibility of it being there - I don’t think that’s necessarily reliable.
 
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I totally believe the car wasn't missed by the land owner. The property could be huge, many in the area are, and the owner/staff would not travel every inch of the property daily, or even regularly. It was 2km off the road, through at least 2 gates, and we know that at least some of the area was treed. I live in the country, and a lot of the area around here is paddocks without huge amounts of trees. I struggle to picture myself being able to see a car 2km away even in paddocks with far less trees. It was also on the edge of a state forest, so could have been very well camouflaged without even trying, based on the terrain.
Looking at the area on google maps, it’s predominantly open ground/paddocks, then a creek with what seems to be reasonably tree cover.
If she had gone off grid/camping, it’s logical to assume picking somewhere along one of the waterways.

You wouldn’t spot a car unless you were looking for it, and spending a decent amount of time, at that. Depending which property, might be absolutely miles of creek on just one property.
 
Looking at the area on google maps, it’s predominantly open ground/paddocks, then a creek with what seems to be reasonably tree cover.
If she had gone off grid/camping, it’s logical to assume picking somewhere along one of the waterways.

You wouldn’t spot a car unless you were looking for it, and spending a decent amount of time, at that. Depending which property, might be absolutely miles of creek on just one property.
Do we actually know where the car was found?
The property is described as being on Yuleba Surat Rd, 40KM from Surat.

On the map below I've measured from Surat:
40KM as the crow flies (Yellow X)
40KM by road (Red X) This is 2km north of the small town of Warkon

292 Yuleba Surat Rd.webp
 
MOO - the bag being full of clothes, from storage and her sisters clothes at that has been an issue to me because i would have personally just left them in the car instead of carrying them from the room and back - unless it wasnt clothes and she received the bag the night before or the morning of and she had to keep an eye on that bag.

I also have an issue with the inconsistencies regarding her employment - there were reports she was self employed, looking for work, but picked up the car from an employee - is the car even registered to her and in her name? it is a stocko toyota hilux that could be potentially ex mining/leased and some bought at auction are all the same minus dents and scratches and little cosmetic things ( like tinting) there was a big focus on finding the car ( yes if they find the car they find her) but also maybe it wasnt her car at all and it could explain why she wasnt familiar with the functions of it ( when she got fuel, when it self locked)

where she was found - her BF mentioned he last saw her outside of Surat meeting up with friends - i personally live in the bush and it is easy to organise a meet up especially if i am stuck for time at a turn off or cross roads as in " ill meet ya half way " sort of thing so the travel burden is shared and people dont have to come into town. when the BF mentioned he last saw her outside of surat with friends i imagined they were travelling in a 2 car convoy and pulled off to the side of the road to conduct whatever it was they had business seeing their friends about. Yet he returned home and she didnt. Did something happen between Surat and where she was found or did something happen between Condamine and where she was found. She could have been rolling around in the tray under the torneau cover whilst * someone * could have put on a pink shirt and drove around surat in that hilux. the detail of where she was found is vague but im willing to bet it was at a turn off point/cross roads nearby.

there have been so many inconsistencies and vague details regarding this case though I dont think the full truth or investigation findings will come out as it *may* be part of a bigger elaborate shady network

just my humble opinion and what i have observed in the last couple of weeks.
 
MOO - the bag being full of clothes, from storage and her sisters clothes at that has been an issue to me because i would have personally just left them in the car instead of carrying them from the room and back - unless it wasnt clothes and she received the bag the night before or the morning of and she had to keep an eye on that bag.

I also have an issue with the inconsistencies regarding her employment - there were reports she was self employed, looking for work, but picked up the car from an employee - is the car even registered to her and in her name? it is a stocko toyota hilux that could be potentially ex mining/leased and some bought at auction are all the same minus dents and scratches and little cosmetic things ( like tinting) there was a big focus on finding the car ( yes if they find the car they find her) but also maybe it wasnt her car at all and it could explain why she wasnt familiar with the functions of it ( when she got fuel, when it self locked)

where she was found - her BF mentioned he last saw her outside of Surat meeting up with friends - i personally live in the bush and it is easy to organise a meet up especially if i am stuck for time at a turn off or cross roads as in " ill meet ya half way " sort of thing so the travel burden is shared and people dont have to come into town. when the BF mentioned he last saw her outside of surat with friends i imagined they were travelling in a 2 car convoy and pulled off to the side of the road to conduct whatever it was they had business seeing their friends about. Yet he returned home and she didnt. Did something happen between Surat and where she was found or did something happen between Condamine and where she was found. She could have been rolling around in the tray under the torneau cover whilst * someone * could have put on a pink shirt and drove around surat in that hilux. the detail of where she was found is vague but im willing to bet it was at a turn off point/cross roads nearby.

there have been so many inconsistencies and vague details regarding this case though I dont think the full truth or investigation findings will come out as it *may* be part of a bigger elaborate shady network

just my humble opinion and what i have observed in the last couple of weeks.
I think the clothing theory came from other sites and people theorising what could be in it because she spent the weekend in Dalby.

Tayla use to live in Dalby and the sister did say she still had stuff in storage there.

What is actually in the bag hasn't been revealed and probably won't be unless it's something nefarious and related to her disappearance.

She ran her own business's. One was an event business which looked to be very successful and had events all over in those areas.

Another more recent one was in another town and for both business she would have needed that car.
Her sister said, her employee had the car and she was the employer. That fits for my theory because of her previous jobs. It was her own car and she was very familiar with it.

I think her absent-mindedness ( my view on her with the happenings of her and the car at the fuel station), was a result of what was actually going on that day and her time schedule of things TBH and it was playing on her mind.

The boyfriend didn't actually say he saw her last meeting with friends.
He said, " I last saw her at 11:30 am, approximately 30 kilometers from Surat, on the Roma side".

We know she and him met up with "friends" in Suart. He told Taylas family he was going to pick something up for his mother. Tayla then drove out onto the Hway toward St George, but obviously took another left turn to get back out onto the Surat Condy Hway toward Roma.
Personally I 100% believe she was driving her car shown on the CCTV in Suart

(((BUT my theory isn't that she took that road after leaving Surat. I have a theory that she took the Suart Development Road to meet up with someone along that road. THIS IS JUST MY OWN THEORY.)))

The car and her were found on a very LARGE property in Noorindoo that backs onto the Yuleba Forest. Another sleuth posted up a visual in this thread if you check back on pages.

100% agree that there have been MANY inconsistencies with the family/ her friends/ the media.

I can understand though in a way. Family trying desperately to keep her prior background out of the public domain would be challenging. But unfortunately so much can be sought online today. Not like the old days of newspapers and telegraph poles only :cool:

So much about this case not allowed to be mentioned on WS unfortunately.

As far as the state of her body. Someone also mentioned on the thread. Finding human remains is pretty telling. If her car and her body was only on that property for about a fortnight, ( the farmer said the car wasn't there 12 days prior), then for me at least, with the conditions out there at the time, torrential rain and also the fact it's pig hunting area, I'm not surprised when the police said "human remains" and not a " body was found ".

It all sounds so gruesome in any case.

I'm keeping an open mind. This case is far from over.

JMO
 

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