Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

Good to know. I read that it was self locking by someone else.
Found the comment on another page!

"The 2017 Toyota Hilux dual-cab utility has a feature where if you unlock the doors with the remote and don't open any within 30 seconds, they will automatically relock, and the alarm system will re-arm. "

You can see Tayla do this in the video at the Servo.

So, it is possible that someone, other then Tayla, could have driven the car into the property and once out, within 30 seconds the car would have auto locked and they potentially could have thrown the keys into the bush.

Just pondering.
 
Found the comment on another page!

"The 2017 Toyota Hilux dual-cab utility has a feature where if you unlock the doors with the remote and don't open any within 30 seconds, they will automatically relock, and the alarm system will re-arm. "

You can see Tayla do this in the video at the Servo.

So, it is possible that someone, other then Tayla, could have driven the car into the property and once out, within 30 seconds the car would have auto locked and they potentially could have thrown the keys into the bush.

Just pondering.

Her phone and car keys are important.

So much to ponder over, the time frame of the Ute, and the number of gates to get through on the farm. Interestingly her car was about within 2 km of the property, to the distance of her body, and the property owner's statement
 
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I’m sure I read something in one of the first stories about she was known to occasionally go off-grid - camping. Certainly the first ABC story (quoted on page 1 of this thread) the police seemed to suspect/expect she’d be on some farmer’s backlot, imploring all local farmers to check thoroughly.


So it’s not necessarily any huge surprise that’s where she ended up.

Whether there was any foul play or not, this perhaps fits into a pattern of movement.



I don’t necessarily take some random farmer saying “pretty sure I checked there” as being 100% gospel. To be really sure a car isn’t on a 1000km2 property would need a full week of searching… not an afternoon’s search.
 
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"The 2017 Toyota Hilux dual-cab utility has a feature where if you unlock the doors with the remote and don't open any within 30 seconds, they will automatically relock, and the alarm system will re-arm.


So, it is possible that someone, other then Tayla, could have driven the car into the property and once out, within 30 seconds the car would have auto locked and they potentially could have thrown the keys into the bush.

Just to clarify, the auto (re)lock feature is only active if the car has been unlocked with the remote - if a door has not been opened within 30 seconds of unlocking it will relock.

If you get out of the car and don't lock it, it will stay unlocked.
 
Thanks for the video -
I looked at it again and he says "PROPERTY BELONGING TO TAYLA WAS LOCATED IN THE VEHICLE AND IT WAS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION PUT IT THAT WAY."

I suspect this officer misspoke in this instance.

The impression I got from that conference was that on initial examination of the vehicle, nothing was in disarray. The vehicle was locked and it didn't appear to have been lived in.

The pink shirt was visible from the outside along with the bag from the video footage. They towed the vehicle but they had not entered it at the time of the press conference.
At least, that's how I understood it.

I'll also note that taking one's long sleeve shirt off while driving in a car on a hot day in Australia is not uncommon.

Edit - "She was wearing light-coloured shorts and a bright pink shirt, but her sister said she changed into 'a white shirt with purple writing on it and a Mimco (brand) shoulder bag in the afternoon'." (from Daily Fail... terrible article that references a clairvoyant on Tiktok so take the information with a pinch of salt)

It will be interesting to see what the autopsy reveals but it doesn't appear that the police are treating this death as suspicious at this point in time.
 
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I don’t necessarily take some random farmer saying “pretty sure I checked there” as being 100% gospel. To be really sure a car isn’t on a 1000km2 property would need a full week of searching… not an afternoon’s search.
The property owner, which BTW, his property is HUGE, isn't a "random farmer".
These property owners are generational and MOST property owners know each other over generations, or at the very least, know each other by name.
Farners Know when another owner is away from their property, especially the workers who work for them.

He didn't actually say "pretty sure I checked there" at all. He WASNT searching for Tayla in an afternoon search at all that day.
His property is massive, owners with lands like that DONT go "checking" the whole area everyday. It's impossible.
They basically move cattle from one area to another, or do work in one area over a week or two, then move onto another area the following week.

What was likely to have occurred was, on his last run in that area the car was found, he could have been dropping feed for his cattle, mending fences, etc, Which he would have done a fortnight before. There's been heavy rain and flooding out that way.

He actually said, "the car wasn't there 12 days ago". So that's indicative of exactly what farmers do, go out to drop food for livestock once a week or once a fortnight, depending on the weather conditions. Or moving herd. Or repairing fences. Or cutting down trees.

Some of these properties are so huge that main roads, from one town to another, go STRAIGHT THROUGH these properties.

The innocent property owner, found her car and if if wasnt for the fact it was left there, Tayla would be still missing.

Someone dropped that car and her there and it wasn't Tayla herself, is my view.
 
The property owner, which BTW, his property is HUGE, isn't a "random farmer".
These property owners are generational and MOST property owners know each other over generations, or at the very least, know each other by name.
Farners Know when another owner is away from their property, especially the workers who work for them.

He didn't actually say "pretty sure I checked there" at all. He WASNT searching for Tayla in an afternoon search at all that day.
His property is massive, owners with lands like that DONT go "checking" the whole area everyday. It's impossible.
They basically move cattle from one area to another, or do work in one area over a week or two, then move onto another area the following week.

What was likely to have occurred was, on his last run in that area the car was found, he could have been dropping feed for his cattle, mending fences, etc, Which he would have done a fortnight before. There's been heavy rain and flooding out that way.

He actually said, "the car wasn't there 12 days ago". So that's indicative of exactly what farmers do, go out to drop food for livestock once a week or once a fortnight, depending on the weather conditions. Or moving herd. Or repairing fences. Or cutting down trees.

Some of these properties are so huge that main roads, from one town to another, go STRAIGHT THROUGH these properties.

The innocent property owner, found her car and if if wasnt for the fact it was left there, Tayla would be still missing.

Someone dropped that car and her there and it wasn't Tayla herself, is my view.
Agreed
 
The property owner, which BTW, his property is HUGE, isn't a "random farmer".
These property owners are generational and MOST property owners know each other over generations, or at the very least, know each other by name.
Farners Know when another owner is away from their property, especially the workers who work for them.

He didn't actually say "pretty sure I checked there" at all. He WASNT searching for Tayla in an afternoon search at all that day.
His property is massive, owners with lands like that DONT go "checking" the whole area everyday. It's impossible.
They basically move cattle from one area to another, or do work in one area over a week or two, then move onto another area the following week.

What was likely to have occurred was, on his last run in that area the car was found, he could have been dropping feed for his cattle, mending fences, etc, Which he would have done a fortnight before. There's been heavy rain and flooding out that way.

He actually said, "the car wasn't there 12 days ago". So that's indicative of exactly what farmers do, go out to drop food for livestock once a week or once a fortnight, depending on the weather conditions. Or moving herd. Or repairing fences. Or cutting down trees.

Some of these properties are so huge that main roads, from one town to another, go STRAIGHT THROUGH these properties.

The innocent property owner, found her car and if if wasnt for the fact it was left there, Tayla would be still missing.

Someone dropped that car and her there and it wasn't Tayla herself, is my view.
If the last sentence in your theory is correct, then there is another car to be identified.
 
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I find it strange this was 4 weeks ago, then her car and body show up 3 weeks after that article & the farmer claims the car wasn’t there 2 weeks prior.
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I do believe the land owner when he said the car was not there 12 days prior to it being found .

It will be interesting to see if we hear anymore updates soon .
 
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The property owner, which BTW, his property is HUGE, isn't a "random farmer".
These property owners are generational and MOST property owners know each other over generations, or at the very least, know each other by name.
Farners Know when another owner is away from their property, especially the workers who work for them.

He didn't actually say "pretty sure I checked there" at all. He WASNT searching for Tayla in an afternoon search at all that day.
His property is massive, owners with lands like that DONT go "checking" the whole area everyday. It's impossible.
They basically move cattle from one area to another, or do work in one area over a week or two, then move onto another area the following week.

What was likely to have occurred was, on his last run in that area the car was found, he could have been dropping feed for his cattle, mending fences, etc, Which he would have done a fortnight before. There's been heavy rain and flooding out that way.

He actually said, "the car wasn't there 12 days ago". So that's indicative of exactly what farmers do, go out to drop food for livestock once a week or once a fortnight, depending on the weather conditions. Or moving herd. Or repairing fences. Or cutting down trees.

Some of these properties are so huge that main roads, from one town to another, go STRAIGHT THROUGH these properties.

The innocent property owner, found her car and if if wasnt for the fact it was left there, Tayla would be still missing.

Someone dropped that car and her there and it wasn't Tayla herself, is my view.

Great info, thanks.

Would you say that, if someone dropped the car and her there, that would need to be someone who was familiar with that property/area? Someone who knew the farmer wouldn't be back for 12 days minimum and so the car would be undiscovered? Or could you discover that kind of place by chance, by driving around, or by being on a main road through the property and spotting a potential drop off point?
 
Great info, thanks.

Would you say that, if someone dropped the car and her there, that would need to be someone who was familiar with that property/area? Someone who knew the farmer wouldn't be back for 12 days minimum and so the car would be undiscovered? Or could you discover that kind of place by chance, by driving around, or by being on a main road through the property and spotting a potential drop off point?
FYI - I'm not a local, but I am Australian and live in the country, although not in a remote area.

I'd hazard a guess and say locals - and I use that term widely, to describe anyone who grew up or lived in any of these towns - know who owns what, roughly how many acres they may have etc. However, with huge properties dotted around the area, I would imagine it wouldn't be hard to luck out and randomly choose a spot that wouldn't immediately be found. In my opinion, it could be dumb luck, but much more likely some local knowledge about the area as a whole was at play, not necessarily knowledge that Farmer Bob only brings his cows down to the south east paddock roughly every 6 weeks on his grazing rotation.
 
FYI - I'm not a local, but I am Australian and live in the country, although not in a remote area.

I'd hazard a guess and say locals - and I use that term widely, to describe anyone who grew up or lived in any of these towns - know who owns what, roughly how many acres they may have etc. However, with huge properties dotted around the area, I would imagine it wouldn't be hard to luck out and randomly choose a spot that wouldn't immediately be found. In my opinion, it could be dumb luck, but much more likely some local knowledge about the area as a whole was at play, not necessarily knowledge that Farmer Bob only brings his cows down to the south east paddock roughly every 6 weeks on his grazing rotation.
Totally agree with you
 
One of the most respected Former Victoria Police homicide detectives in Australia

Charlie Bezzina -

"It’s a missing persons case but with a mystery like this you start to look at all aspects of this person’s life you ask yourself, “Why would a 29-year-old mum want to disappear?”,’ he said.

‘Anyone connected to this case in anyway is a person of interest."


 
the recent discussions have mostly discussed self harm vs. foul play/homicide.

What are the odds/chances that this could be accidental? She got lost and/or the car got disabled for some reason and she perished trying to find help?

Or does the timeline, the position/condition of the car, or how it entered the area, make it more likely there is foul play involved?
 
the recent discussions have mostly discussed self harm vs. foul play/homicide.

What are the odds/chances that this could be accidental? She got lost and/or the car got disabled for some reason and she perished trying to find help?

Or does the timeline, the position/condition of the car, or how it entered the area, make it more likely there is foul play involved?

Very unlikely that it was accidental. her car was driven a long way into a property from the road including going through closed gate. I read that it was 2 kilometres.
As far as foul play vs self harm, one of the biggest challenges in ascertaining the particulars of the death is going to be the decay of the body. After two months in tropical heat it would be in a very advanced state of decay. It may be that the vehicle itself tells a better story - fingerprints, DNA.
If it was foul play one would expect another vehicle to have been involved, but with significant rainfall in the region finding tracks may not be possible.
 
I found this thread and there seems to be some good information in here from people!

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Opinions
- she met foul play.
- the QPS who mentioned a backpacker is IMO a diversion to allow suspects to think they are not being looked at

My Prayers are with TS family and children through this tragic event.

Thankyou for allowing me to join, and admin if i have made a boo boo please moderate as fit, this is a fantastic resource for anyone missing!
 
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