Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

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BreakingNews said:
I just can't imagine anyone else having her car for several weeks without it being seen, then take it back to where I believe her body has been since the day she disappeared. My theory is something triggered her maybe while visiting his friends and when she met up with him. He might have dumped her. On top of her other issues like losing her kids, and the court hearing, she snapped and simply drove over the grid onto the property, locked her vehicle and walked away to think. There she died from self harm. And has been here ever since. Just because someone might be involved with druggos or whatever, doesn't mean they necessarily are murderers. AMOO
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I don’t think someone had her car in the sense that they were driving it around for all these weeks.
I think they drove it away from the crime scene and then have had it hidden since & only moved it back in the last 2 weeks.

It is always a possibility that nothing sinister happened to her & I am really hoping this is the case. I understand the drug world I’ve been exposed to a lot more than most people so I get it. I know that just because drugs may be somehow involved that doesn’t equate to murder. It’s a very extreme circumstance that this would take place, yet it is still very plausible.

Oh well, I just hope the police do their job properly and don’t just rule it off as suicide like they do most cases. Especially if it is something to do with what a lot of people are assuming, corrupt cops and drugs & it’s highly likely that it will come down to suicide or miss adventure in the end no matter the circumstances.
 
Cleety_ said:
I don’t think someone had her car in the sense that they were driving it around for all these weeks.
I think they drove it away from the crime scene and then have had it hidden since & only moved it back in the last 2 weeks.



Oh well, I just hope the police do their job properly and don’t just rule it off as suicide like they do most cases. Especially if it is something to do with what a lot of people are assuming, corrupt cops and drugs & it’s highly likely that it will come down to suicide or miss adventure in the end no matter the circumstances.
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I agree and hope they do their job properly too.

Hope everyones phones are checked thoroughly.

I really hope justice is served and that some things aren't overlooked !
 
Cleety_ said:
I don’t think someone had her car in the sense that they were driving it around for all these weeks.
I think they drove it away from the crime scene and then have had it hidden since & only moved it back in the last 2 weeks.

It is always a possibility that nothing sinister happened to her & I am really hoping this is the case. I understand the drug world I’ve been exposed to a lot more than most people so I get it. I know that just because drugs may be somehow involved that doesn’t equate to murder. It’s a very extreme circumstance that this would take place, yet it is still very plausible.

Oh well, I just hope the police do their job properly and don’t just rule it off as suicide like they do most cases. Especially if it is something to do with what a lot of people are assuming, corrupt cops and drugs & it’s highly likely that it will come down to suicide or miss adventure in the end no matter the circumstances.
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Another thing for me is the car.

Picks up the car that an employee had, with the rego nearly run out and is never seen again once she leaves Surat.

The car goes missing for 2 months , then it shows up in an area that is supposedly searched.

My thinking is others are involved so my Q is:

WHY bring the car back if someone has already killed her?

If they wanted her body to be found eventually, by placing her on that property or even killing her on that property, then why bring the car back?

That's a risk to bring it back to that property if it had been hidden for some time.

They could have burnt it out or could have left it anywhere along the Yuleba Surat HWay but they bring it back to the spot her body is. ??

Or maybe the autopsy will show she was alive for a period of time and then 2 weeks prior to the car being found, they killed her on that property and made it look like a suicide??/

Is the car important in this? I am now thinking it is really important.

It kind of reminds me of when your family cat brings you in a reward and places a rat at your feet.
A trade off of sorts?

I dont know. I could be waaaayyyyy off here on my thinking.......
 
Cleety_ said:
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The only reason I believe she didn’t make it to Surat, is the fact that she was found down Norindoo road.
This makes me believe she was put here on the way to Surat, because it’s such a specific road for her body to be found considering the large area of land around the area.
It could just be a coincidence, but the fact that her car travelled from Condamine to Surat and went past the entrance for this road & then her car was seen heading in the opposite direction to that road and to her home in Roma at 11:10 but not seen coming back through Surat to get to Norindoo road again is what is making me suspicious that her car never actually traveled back to that spot until a later date, when it was either driven at night time to go undetected, or put in a concealed car trailer and taken there.

I do believe her body was moved though, I think they freaked out as they knew they hadn’t hidden her body well enough & after afew weeks decided to go and move her body futher up Norindoo road along with her car, to try and stage a suicide or medical episode or to shift blame to the property owner or like we have seen, a hitchhiker or back packer.

I do also think it is possible she was kept alive for awhile as she apparently owed money. Could explain the partner selling stuff on marketplace only afew days after she went missing.
Then after she couldn’t pay & possibly didn’t co operate, she was killed.
This one may be far fetched, but I have seen and heard stories within the drug world where this isn’t out of the ordinary at all.

Another thing to add is that it’s a possibility the reason she was in contact with her ex in jail, could be explained by the fact she was in a big hole with the debt and as a last ditch effort she asked him to help her pay it off by doing a run for someone he knows. (People pay lots of money for drug runs)
& I am in no way saying he set her up to be killed. I don’t think it was a plan to kill her. I think it may have been a heat of the moment thing especially if whoever she was dropping stuff to failed to hold up their end (something like not handing her money but taking the drugs they were supposed to get) then she may have refused to give them the package which caused an argument and ultimately ended her life.
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As both our posts have been editied but not completely deleted I can only assume there is something that has been said that someone does not want made public... 🤔
 
There's a lot of confusion around the car and the reason for the trip. From mainstream media and reputable sources, I've heard all the following, yet my questions haven't been answered:

CAR:
  • The car was picked up from an employee. Is that an employee of a company that Tayla ran? Is it a colleague of a company they both worked for? Where was it picked up from? If not in Roma, or very, very nearby, how did she get from Roma to Dalby? Was it registered under a business name? Was it Taylor's personal, usual car? What was the other person using it for? (I've heard for a work event, but nobody seems to know what sort of work)
  • The car wasn't in that location more than about 12 days. How certain is the property owner/employee about that? Is the property, or it's owner, known to Tayla or her friends/boyfriend?
  • The car was found "not in good condition", but how? The pic released looks clean and pretty good to me, although the front and other side are not visible. The inside was not in disarray, but suggested food spoilage or something was obvious. (I can't recall the wording now) If it wasn't there longer than 12 days, where was it prior, and why was it not noticed by anyone? Why was it not torched to cover any evidence? Was it planted there, left the way it was when she went missing, to suggest suicide? (Despite whatever "not good condition" the police mean) Why was it locked? (Or did it self lock?)
  • Why did she fuel up where/when she did? Fuel would have been cheaper in Dalby. Condamine is not on the way to Surat from Dalby, so why the out of way stop? Did she go there for some other reason?
TRIP:
  • What was the reason for the trip? "Business" keeps getting thrown around, but nobody has said what sort. Her event planning business seems to have ceased 2 years ago. Was it to look for work? Did she have interviews or meetings lined up? Was she dropping resumes around and asking for work? If so, why 3 hours from her home town?
  • Why did she leave on the Thursday and her boyfriend followed on the Friday? (I think I've got the days right?) Did it have something to do with the car pick up situation? Did she have "business" on the Thursday night or Friday? Otherwise, it would seem to make more sense to take a road trip together, in one vehicle.
  • Was it just a fun trip? She used to live there, was picking up belongings and presumably still had friends there. Fair reason to spend a weekend there, but info about what she did the weekend is thin on the ground. At this point it may or may not have relevance, and maybe the public have no need to know, which is fair enough.
There's just not enough info to join all the dots and have a decent timeline of the entire weekend, or even just the day she went missing. There's just so much unknown to the public, for various reasons, that none of us will be 100% correct. Likely very close, but not 100%. IMHO.
 
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mishy66 said:

"Her car was found 'not in good condition'
on a remote property"


The food suggestions came about by theorising what the interior would be like, after the police press announcement.
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I couldn’t find the quote you provided in the article; however, the other quotes in the article are from the press conference. If you watch the press conference below at 2:45, it’s easy to see how it could be misunderstood that the car was not in good condition when actually I believe he was talking about what was inside the car (at least that’s the way I interpreted what he said in the context of what he was talking about at the time).

See below at 2:45

 
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1ivimay said:
I couldn’t find the quote you provided in the article; however, the other quotes in the article are from the press conference. If you watch the press conference below at 2:45, it’s easy to see how it could be misunderstood that the car was not in good condition when actually I believe he was talking about what was inside the car (at least that’s the way I interpreted what he said in the context of what he was talking about at the time).

See below at 2:45

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yeah that is the problem with these missing persons cases, media are not always accurate in their reporting. Probs why so much of the public have varying views because of what media platform they follow.

This is a VERY COMMON thing in missing persons cases. I dont know whether lazy journalism or what it is, but it is the reason why there is always conflicting reports.

A LOT of times if you look back on the original media report, in the heading it will have "updated" - so by the time a link is posted, chances are the next day or two, it will not show some of what has been said but has been updated to something 'new'.

I got the above "Her car was found 'not in good condition on a remote property" from here
Devastating update in search for mum who vanished two months ago


Thanks for the video -
I looked at it again and he says "PROPERTY BELONGING TO TAYLA WAS LOCATED IN THE VEHICLE AND IT WAS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION PUT IT THAT WAY."
 
mishy66 said:
Thanks for the video -
I looked at it again and he says "PROPERTY BELONGING TO TAYLA WAS LOCATED IN THE VEHICLE AND IT WAS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION PUT IT THAT WAY."
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Snipped by me.

So the interior had belongings that were "not in good condition". What can that mean? It doesn't mean the interior was in disarray. It means whatever was in there, no matter how neat, tidy or messy it was, was not in a good condition. Blood stained clothes? Ripped clothes? Slashed bags or luggage? Spoiled food? Flowers or plants? A dead animal? (Sounds weird but I was thinking a puppy or kitten she may have picked up to take home - I'm thinking of everything at this point!) Any potential props or items from an event gig? (deflated balloons, dead floral arrangements, melted candles?)

I'm trying to think of anything else she might have in her car for a weekend away, that could be "not in good condition" for any reason. Anyone got anything else?
 
HoneyBunOne said:
Snipped by me.

So the interior had belongings that were "not in good condition". What can that mean? It doesn't mean the interior was in disarray. It means whatever was in there, no matter how neat, tidy or messy it was, was not in a good condition. Blood stained clothes? Ripped clothes? Slashed bags or luggage? Spoiled food? Flowers or plants? A dead animal? (Sounds weird but I was thinking a puppy or kitten she may have picked up to take home - I'm thinking of everything at this point!) Any potential props or items from an event gig? (deflated balloons, dead floral arrangements, melted candles?)

I'm trying to think of anything else she might have in her car for a weekend away, that could be "not in good condition" for any reason. Anyone got anything else?
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Im going with the pink shirt
 
sapphire blue said:
Something to ponder with the news reports - I haven’t seen any that have included anything about suicide - usually below articles where suicide is suspected or known there is information for help such as lifeline phone number etc.
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This is the reason I think it was a drug overdose, they don’t know if it was intentional or death by misadventure. Autopsy and toxicology will answer this.
 
mishy66 said:
Another thing for me is the car.

Picks up the car that an employee had, with the rego nearly run out and is never seen again once she leaves Surat.

The car goes missing for 2 months , then it shows up in an area that is supposedly searched.

My thinking is others are involved so my Q is:

WHY bring the car back if someone has already killed her?

If they wanted her body to be found eventually, by placing her on that property or even killing her on that property, then why bring the car back?

That's a risk to bring it back to that property if it had been hidden for some time.

They could have burnt it out or could have left it anywhere along the Yuleba Surat HWay but they bring it back to the spot her body is. ??

Or maybe the autopsy will show she was alive for a period of time and then 2 weeks prior to the car being found, they killed her on that property and made it look like a suicide??/

Is the car important in this? I am now thinking it is really important.

It kind of reminds me of when your family cat brings you in a reward and places a rat at your feet.
A trade off of sorts?

I dont know. I could be waaaayyyyy off here on my thinking.......
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I agree with you.

Hopefully the autopsy results come back soon — that car is going to reveal some answers.

Do we know who they met up with? Did both TN and TS go? I read there was some sort of altercation — is that true?

There’s definitely something strange about that car. Who owns it? If it wasn’t sitting there the whole time, it must’ve been nearby, because moving it around would’ve drawn attention.

I just don’t believe the car was there for two months. It seems unlikely that both the police and the landholder would’ve missed it for that long.

My gut feeling is that it was placed there deliberately — maybe because of all the flooding in the area. It could’ve become too hard to keep it hidden, or maybe it was put there as a message — a warning to those “in the know” to keep quiet about certain events.

It’ll be interesting to see what the police reveal next.
 
Anonamouse said:
I agree with you.

Hopefully the autopsy results come back soon — that car is going to reveal some answers.

Do we know who they met up with? Did both TN and TS go? I read there was some sort of altercation — is that true?

There’s definitely something strange about that car. Who owns it? If it wasn’t sitting there the whole time, it must’ve been nearby, because moving it around would’ve drawn attention.

I just don’t believe the car was there for two months. It seems unlikely that both the police and the landholder would’ve missed it for that long.

My gut feeling is that it was placed there deliberately — maybe because of all the flooding in the area. It could’ve become too hard to keep it hidden, or maybe it was put there as a message — a warning to those “in the know” to keep quiet about certain events.

It’ll be interesting to see what the police reveal next.
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Also wouldn’t this area have been heavily searched? I’m struggling to keep the location in my mind but you’d think so since it’s between? Or not really
 
Anonamouse said:
The police did say it was part of the area they had searched but they were going to double check drone footage .

The land owner is adamant it wasn’t there 12 days prior to the body being found .
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I'm keeping my powder dry until we hear what the drone footage shows.

I think there's a good chance that both she and her car were there the whole time, and the land owner is mistaken on just how recently they were in that area, or mistaken about whether they would have for sure seen a vehicle there if it was.

MOO
 
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