Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

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I just can not see that the car and her being there on that property for 2 months.
Shortened by me.

I agree with the car, not necessarily the remains. I believe they could have been there for 2 months, given they're now "remains" and not a "body". I'm not certain at what point police call a dead person a "body" or "remains". I just googled (Lord help me if my search history is ever checked!) and this is what I found:

  • Body: Refers to the whole physical structure of a living or deceased person.

  • Remains: Specifically refers to the physical parts or remnants of a deceased body, including bones, soft tissues, or any other parts that are left behind after death.
So if the term was used correctly, her entire body wasn't there. This suggests to me either some pretty gruesome possibilities, or that it's been there for a long time and nature has taken its course.

I hate to compare Tayla to a kangaroo, but my only experience with a large being decomposing is a kangaroo. I've seen lots of dead ones on the side of the road and even the big boys don't take long until they're almost gone, bar the bones.

Regardless, it's very sad and her death will impact many. :(
 
  • #323
Was she on CCTV in Surat, or just her car? Is this the footage of her doing the odd left hand turn? (Instead of the expected right?)
When I said odd, I meant that it was quite sharp, like a last minute decision and taken from the centre of the lane and not the side.
 
  • #324
No same car.

The reason Im sticking with the change into white shirt being one of the key factors in this case, is more nefarious than just being dirty or something spilt on it.

IF she told members of her family and friends, she was heading straight back to Roma, then why change shirt? It was mentioned she camps, has lived out west all her life, she would be use to dirty shirts on all day. She is in her car heading home she tells family , so cant see her putting on a nice clean shirt.

In my mind that shirt was changed because:

1. She was heading to somewhere else and wanted to look tidy.

2. Something happened during the time of "the friends, TN meet up" , prior to the car leaving Surat and she had to change her shirt.

Personally I DO think that shirt change is very important.
The fact the shirt was found in the back of the car and not missing is good, because it may tell a story as to why it was changed. I do wonder what sort of DNA and other evidence it will provide. I do see this case resolving, and I don't think it will take too long in the grand scheme of things.
 
  • #325
No same car.

The reason Im sticking with the change into white shirt being one of the key factors in this case, is more nefarious than just being dirty or something spilt on it.

IF she told members of her family and friends, she was heading straight back to Roma, then why change shirt? It was mentioned she camps, has lived out west all her life, she would be use to dirty shirts on all day. She is in her car heading home she tells family , so cant see her putting on a nice clean shirt.

In my mind that shirt was changed because:

1. She was heading to somewhere else and wanted to look tidy.

2. Something happened during the time of "the friends, TN meet up" , prior to the car leaving Surat and she had to change her shirt.

Personally I DO think that shirt change is very important.
Hmm. I did re-watch the police conference… the pink shirt being found in the vehicle almost proves she got changed as has been suggested. Also when asked, the police officer said they had no idea how it came to be that she changed out of the pink top. If she sent a pic to her sister via Snapchat, you’d think the police would know about this. Either meaning they don’t know (unlikely) or it is more important than one might assume and are keeping tight-lipped.
 
  • #326
Presumably this theory and approximate time of death would be easy to prove/disprove by the level of decomposition of her body. MOO
I’m unsure of the climate in Australia in February to April?
RIP
Climate is usually stinking hot especially out this way but has been a very wet summer due to cyclones on both east and west coasts. Not sure if Roma area has been hit as bad as further west.
 
  • #327
I can't understand why her car and body were found on a property when there are so many bush-isolated areas.

The owner had called the police regarding seeing her car and believes it's been there no more than 12 days.

But why are all her belongings still inside with evidence? Why would you have it locked? Wouldn't you keep the car in a shed/garage right away from being seen, and everything removed, or take somewhere else right away and torch it?

To me, it seems a few are involved or know, that someone has had to be driven back from her body/car from the property

While advanced decomposition can obscure some injuries, it can also reveal certain types of trauma, such as fractures or lacerations, that may have occurred before death
 
  • #328
Known timeline:

2nd February 2025

8am - Left Dalby motel (cctv big bag)
124km drive.
9.10am - Condamine servo (cctv)
126km drive
11.30 - Surat (cctv driving past Cobb & Co) 40km drive
12.13pm - Yuleba South tower phone ping

3rd February - reported missing
3rd April - car found in Noorindoo Qld
4th April - Human remains found in Noorindoo

Notes:
  • Car was found parked on a private property about 2 kms from the property driveway.
  • The property had multiple (3) internal access gates.
  • The property owner doesn’t live there full time.
  • The property is on Yuleba-Surat Road and it backs onto the Yuleba State Forest.
  • The property might be able to be accessed from the State Forest side.
  • The property is approximately 40 km’s north east of Surat.
  • The property has areas that are cleared and also areas that are wooded.
  • The car was parked near trees but not hidden or camouflaged and it didn’t necessarily stick out.
  • Human remains were 1km from the car.
  • Car was locked, with Tayla’s personal belongings inside.
  • Car may have had body damage.
  • Items inside the car show signs of stress consistent with being in a sealed & hot environment.
  • Does not appear as though anyone was living in the car.
  • Property owner states that the car was not where it was found 12 days prior to 3rd April.
  • No further phone pings are reported after 12.13pm on 2nd February.
  • Phone tracking did not assist in locating the car or Tayla.
  • Tayla lived in Roma. She had previously lived in/near Dalby.
  • Tayla had an events planning business but was reportedly looking for work, including actively looking for work on local stations.
  • Tayla appeared in court in Dalby a few times late 2024 and early 2025.
  • Tayla’s ex partner (father of some or all of her 3 children) is currently incarcerated.
  • Tayla allegedly changed out of her pink shirt into a white one with purple writing somewhere between Surat and Noorindoo.
  • A photo of Tayla wearing the white shirt and carrying a Mimco bag was allegedly received by Tayla’s sister on 2nd February.
  • The pink shirt was reported as being visible lying in Tayla’s car when the car was found.
  • Partner TN was the last known person to see Tayla on 2nd February.
  • Multiple searches, including aerial/drones, were conducted in the area.
  • Not known if this particular property was searched from the air.
  • On February 2nd, the temperature in Noorindoo was 35°C (95°F). It was a clear, hot and sunny Summer day.
  • Since 2nd February, south west Queensland has experienced significant rain and flooding in parts.
  • Noorindoo has a population of 71. Warkon, right next door & close to the site of the car and body, has a popn of just 30. Yuleba has 270 people and Yuleba South has 20 residents. Surat has 400 people and Roma has approximately 6800 people.
Do we know If the police have found her phone ?
 
  • #329
Do we know If the police have found her phone ?
Not AFAIK. Or at least they have not told the public if they have. I wonder if they've been able to access any information from the phone service provider?
 
  • #330
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  • #331
Tayla's sister has made a heart felt update confirming that the body found is that of her sister. Most of her upset and anger is being directed towards insensitive comments on social media. She is also furious that the media released the finding of the body within 10 minutes of contacting Tayla's Next of Kin. She felt it was insufficient time to share the news privately with loved ones. What I really noticed was an absence of anger towards who might have done this to her. It is pure speculation but I suspect that perhaps the circumstances indicate self harm as opposed to homicide. Only time will tell if this assumption is correct.
 
  • #332
I can't understand why her car and body were found on a property when there are so many bush-isolated areas.

The owner had called the police regarding seeing her car and believes it's been there no more than 12 days.

But why are all her belongings still inside with evidence? Why would you have it locked? Wouldn't you keep the car in a shed/garage right away from being seen, and everything removed, or take somewhere else right away and torch it?

To me, it seems a few are involved or know, that someone has had to be driven back from her body/car from the property

While advanced decomposition can obscure some injuries, it can also reveal certain types of trauma, such as fractures or lacerations, that may have occurred before death
I agree. My take on it is that the ute was initially hidden, and then bought back to the site of the body to hasten Tayla’s discovery and recovery (which it quickly did).

I currently think that this is personal and perhaps some emotion (guilt, fear and/or remorse) has crept in and motivated a few people to return Tayla and her belongings to her kids and family.

The death may have even been accidental (ie a random gun shot whilst pigging) and not intentional, premeditated or malicious. Maybe a few people running scared of what else might pop up if they reported this straight away.

I don’t know but as you said, why has the ute not been torched and all of the evidence hidden?
 
  • #333
Tayla's sister has made a heart felt update confirming that the body found is that of her sister. Most of her upset and anger is being directed towards insensitive comments on social media. She is also furious that the media released the finding of the body within 10 minutes of contacting Tayla's Next of Kin. She felt it was insufficient time to share the news privately with loved ones. What I really noticed was an absence of anger towards who might have done this to her. It is pure speculation but I suspect that perhaps the circumstances indicate self harm as opposed to homicide. Only time will tell if this assumption is correct.
I really don’t think this is a foul play situation, and that only further lends credence to my thoughts. But I know I’m in the minority on this. Hopefully forensics and autopsy will provide more information either way for the family.
 
  • #334
I can't understand why her car and body were found on a property when there are so many bush-isolated areas.

The owner had called the police regarding seeing her car and believes it's been there no more than 12 days.

But why are all her belongings still inside with evidence? Why would you have it locked? Wouldn't you keep the car in a shed/garage right away from being seen, and everything removed, or take somewhere else right away and torch it?

To me, it seems a few are involved or know, that someone has had to be driven back from her body/car from the property

While advanced decomposition can obscure some injuries, it can also reveal certain types of trauma, such as fractures or lacerations, that may have occurred before death
I agree. My take on it is that the ute was initially hidden, and then bought back to the site of the body to hasten Tayla’s discovery and recovery (which it quickly did).

I currently think that this is personal and perhaps some emotion (guilt, fear and/or remorse) has crept in and motivated a few people to return Tayla and her belongings to her kids and family.

The death may have even been accidental (ie a random gun shot whilst pigging) and not intentional, premeditated or malicious. Maybe a few people running scared of what else might pop up if they reported this straight away

I don’t know but as you said, why has the ute not been torched and all of the evidence hidden?
 
  • #335
It is pure speculation but I suspect that perhaps the circumstances indicate self harm as opposed to homicide. Only time will tell if this assumption is correct.
I have been about this as well.
 
  • #336
I agree. My take on it is that the ute was initially hidden, and then bought back to the site of the body to hasten Tayla’s discovery and recovery (which it quickly did).

I currently think that this is personal and perhaps some emotion (guilt, fear and/or remorse) has crept in and motivated a few people to return Tayla and her belongings to her kids and family.

The death may have even been accidental (ie a random gun shot whilst pigging) and not intentional, premeditated or malicious. Maybe a few people running scared of what else might pop up if they reported this straight away.

I don’t know but as you said, why has the ute not been torched and all of the evidence hidden?

The fact that the ute was locked her belongings were still in the back and the interior was not in disarray, is interesting

Normally locking your door is a conscious habit for the driver so no one breaks in or steals your car

I am starting to think maybe she has driven herself there and then locked her door

But the property owner said it was only there for 12 days.

The car was about 2km into the property off the Yuleba-Surat road, which backs onto the Yuleba State Forrest
 
  • #337
I really don’t think this is a foul play situation, and that only further lends credence to my thoughts. But I know I’m in the minority on this. Hopefully forensics and autopsy will provide more information either way for the family.
I’m a little on the fence to be honest.

The location, the apparent lack of phone activity after 12.13pm, the confusion around the ute being there the whole time, the meet up north of Surat, TN not reporting Taylah as missing until the next day etc does give me doubt though.

Also, was it perhaps staged to look like self harm?

Yes, we’ll wait for the findings of forensics + the autopsy.
 
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  • #338
my thoughts are she was mixed up in drugs and that has been her demise. I don't believe others are intolved I think she took an overdose or took her life in some way. Also given the families statement that didn't mention finding culprits etc.
 
  • #339
Tayla's sister has made a heart felt update confirming that the body found is that of her sister. Most of her upset and anger is being directed towards insensitive comments on social media. She is also furious that the media released the finding of the body within 10 minutes of contacting Tayla's Next of Kin. She felt it was insufficient time to share the news privately with loved ones. What I really noticed was an absence of anger towards who might have done this to her. It is pure speculation but I suspect that perhaps the circumstances indicate self harm as opposed to homicide. Only time will tell if this assumption is correct.
Self harm makes sense, except for the property owner saying the vehicle wasn't seen there 2 weeks ago.
 
  • #340
Self harm makes sense, except for the property owner saying the vehicle wasn't seen there 2 weeks ago.
Sorry, this is a very dark thought here, No offense intended, but it makes sense in my head...

Perhaps it has been made to look like she suicided... like if that vehicle wasn't there until 2 weeks ago, maybe the underworld she was involved with (drugs) told the family to say it's suicide to the media, and not to mention them, and try steer the cops clear, then they will deliver the car back to where they whacked her to allow them to have her body?? 🤷‍♂️ because how/why else did the car get there?? Or maybe I just watch too many cop shows... 😬
 
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