Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #7 *Arrest*

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Police took leftovers of lunch from defendant's bin, jury hears​

12:44​



The jury is told that police took leftovers from the beef wellington lunch they found in a bin at Erin Patterson’s home and took them to Leongatha Hospital.

Erin Patterson 'said it was not necessary for children to go to hospital'​

12:46​

Simon Atkinson
Australia producer, reporting from court

The jury hears that doctors were very concerned for the Pattersons' children, who had eaten leftovers form the lunch.

As we heard earlier, Erin Patterson said the children had only had the meat, potato and green beans - but no mushrooms or pastry. She said she had scraped the mushrooms off because the children did not like mushrooms.

Doctors were keen to get the Patterson children into hospital as a precaution because they had eaten leftovers - but the jurors are told Erin Patterson protested it was unnecessary.

Prosecution Nanette Rogers says: “She did not appear to be concerned about the children’s health but rather about stressing them out."

 
  • #482
1m ago

Ms Patterson told hospital she suffered from diarrhoea, prosecution says​


By Judd Boaz​

The prosecution claims Ms Patterson said she had been suffering from diarrhoea since eating the meal.

This prompted hospital staff to begin to monitor Ms Patterson's bowel movements, examining her toilet pan after each trip to the bathroom.

When a nurse examined the toilet pan after one trip, she found a yellow liquid with brown sediment.

Dr Rogers said Ms Patterson told the nurse it had been a bowel movement.

"She said she knew it looked like wee, but it was actually poo," Dr Rogers told the jury.
Ms Patterson remained adamant in her desire to leave the hospital to pick up her children despite doctor's advice, the jury heard.

She resisted medication, including the NAC drug and IV fluids, saying she did not want any treatment.

 
  • #483
12.45pm

‘Back in 20 minutes’: Erin Patterson left hospital against medical advice​

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Two days after the mushroom lunch, Erin Patterson called Simon and told him that she too had been having diarrhoea and that she thought she should go to the hospital. She asked Simon to take her, the court heard.

“Simon told her to go to hospital and see how she managed by herself,” Crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, told the court.

Erin Patterson.

Erin Patterson.Credit: Jason South

Erin presented to Leongatha hospital shortly after 8am. When Dr Chris Webster realised that Patterson was the fifth lunch attendee, she immediately let Erin into the urgent care centre.

At the hospital, when Erin was told by nurse staff that she needed to undergo a thorough examination, Erin repeatedly declined, saying that she had not come prepared to be admitted to hospital.

“Ultimately, the accused signed a discharge against medical advice form and left ... saying she’d be back in 20 minutes,” Rogers said.

The jury is now being shown video footage of Patterson at the Leongatha hospital as medical staff advised her against leaving.

 
  • #484
Perhaps Erin was afraid that it would be discovered that she didn’t have ovarian cancer?

It’s awfully suspicious that she refused to remain in hospital and receive treatment, not just for herself but why wasn’t she frantic about her children’s health?

I smell a basket of lies… IMO

Oh, and didn’t she say she was given a “protective IV” at the hospital? What happened with that?
 
  • #485

Defendant 'had mild gastro illness but not unwell'published at 12:50​

12:50​

Simon Atkinson
Australia producer, reporting from court

The prosecution says medical tests showed Erin Patterson was ”moderately dehydrated” and appeared to have a mild gastro illness but blood tests did not suggest she was very unwell.

Defendant 'had mild gastro illness but was not very unwell
12:50​

Simon Atkinson
Australia producer, reporting from court

The prosecution says medical tests showed Erin Patterson was "moderately dehydrated" and appeared to have a mild gastro illness but blood tests did not suggest she was very unwell.

Doctors began treating Ms Patterson with a drug called NAC - designed to protect the liver, the prosecutor says.

The jury hears the accused said "I don’t want this. I don't want all these fluids" despite being told it was to protect her liver from ingesting poison.

 
  • #486
Key Event
6m ago

Ms Patterson said mushrooms had come from Asian grocer, prosecution says​


By Judd Boaz​

Reporting by Kristian Silva

Back at Ms Patterson's house, police found the leftovers of the beef Wellington meal in a bin.

The leftovers were taken to Leongatha Hospital for testing.

Dr Rogers said Ms Patterson was now saying there were two sources of mushrooms — from Woolworths and from an Asian grocer in the Oakleigh region in suburban Melbourne.

When asked by doctors which Asian grocer it was, Ms Patterson said she did not remember, and that the grocer could have in fact been in Glen Waverley, Dr Rogers said.

Ms Patterson denied using wild or foraged mushrooms, Dr Rogers said.

While in hospital, Ms Patterson's blood tests did not show signs that she was seriously unwell, Dr Rogers said.

However Ms Patterson was insistent that she wanted to leave to pick up her kids from school.

She continued to insist that her children were fine and didn't eat the mushrooms.

"No, No, I scraped them off," Ms Patterson allegedly told a nurse.

"She did not appear to be concerned about the children's health, rather than stressing them out," Dr Rogers said.

 
  • #487

Erin Patterson denied she used wild mushrooms - prosecution
12:55​

Simon Atkinson
Australia producer, reporting from court

While Erin Patterson was at the hospital, a doctor "asked Ms Patterson if she had used wild or foraged mushrooms. She denied this", the prosecution says.

 
  • #488

The hours after the lunch​

The court has heard it was arranged for the children to go to the cinema on the day of the lunch.

A friend of one of the children also joined them at the cinema.

About 2.25pm, Simon Patterson picked the children up and they returned to Patterson’s home.

Patterson dropped her child’s friend home about 7pm.

“Around midnight, on Sunday the 30th of July, Heather and Ian started to suffer nausea, diahrrhea and vomitting,” Rogers said.

“They mostly stayed in separate rooms, but did come together to talk.”

The court heard Don and Gail went to the hospital that evening with the same symptoms.

After speaking on the phone to Don, Simon drove to Ian and Heather’s house to tell them to go to hospital.

During his visit, Heather said: “I noticed Erin put her food in a different plate. Her plate had colours. I wondered why that was.”
I only have 4 large plates, mainly because I don't have people over often and don't want extra crockery hanging around. Saying, this could have an innocent explanation.
 
  • #489

“Not concerned about children’s health”​

A doctor assessed Patterson and found that she was dehydrated and had mild stomach upset. However, testing did not find that she was not suffering from health markers that would indicate she was severely unwell.

Patterson and Simon were in contact during the late morning as he was on his way to Dandenong Hospital to see his parents.

She told him she was at hospital and the kids had eaten the leftovers and they needed to go to hospital. Simon agreed to take the children to hospital.

When Patterson reiterated that she did not feel the children needed to be treated, medics explained the toxins still could have seeped into the meat.

Rogers said the medics reported Patterson became teary at that point and said that she didn’t want her children to have to be involved.

“She did not seem to be concerned about the children’s health, but more about stressing them out,” Rogers said.
 
  • #490
Perhaps Erin was afraid that it would be discovered that she didn’t have ovarian cancer?

It’s awfully suspicious that she refused to remain in hospital and receive treatment, not just for herself but why wasn’t she frantic about her children’s health?

I smell a basket of lies… IMO

Oh, and didn’t she say she was given a “protective IV” at the hospital? What happened with that?

I think it was "elbow cancer" ..... “The accused told them she had a lump in her elbow that needed testing and that she was going to St Vincent Hospital on June 28,” Rogers said.

But, yeah, no IV, blood test showed nothing. ... people are dying and she didn't want preventative treatment or rehydrating.

imo
 
  • #491
Perhaps Erin was afraid that it would be discovered that she didn’t have ovarian cancer?

It’s awfully suspicious that she refused to remain in hospital and receive treatment, not just for herself but why wasn’t she frantic about her children’s health?

I smell a basket of lies… IMO

Oh, and didn’t she say she was given a “protective IV” at the hospital? What happened with that?
The "protective IV" she would have been talking about is the NAC ( N-acetylcysteine ) it's usually used to treat paracetamol oversdose & the one she refused. It has a very specific regieme & is given over days at different doses- it's very effective if given within 6-8hrs of ingestion ( for paracetamol ) to prevent liver failure. It smells like rotten eggs & sulphur!!

Edit to add, this is usually given over 4 hrs & than another lot over 16hrs ( used to be 3 lots over a total of 48hrs I think from memory )

 
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Court breaks for lunch
13:00​

After a lot of information, the jury has been give a break as the court adjourns for lunch.

The prosecution will continue their opening statement after the break - we'll be back in about an hour to bring you the updates.

 
  • #493
I only have 4 large plates, mainly because I don't have people over often and don't want extra crockery hanging around. Saying, this could have an innocent explanation.

Her husband said EP didn't have a lot of plates. It is one of the above posts.
 
  • #494
12.57pm

Where did the mushrooms come from? A phone call from the hospital​

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As the jury was shown a photograph of the lunch leftovers, encased in pastry, Crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, spoke about how the police took the beef Wellington to the hospital to help doctors determine what was wrong with the guests.

Rogers said Erin Patterson gave the police the code to the gate and told them the leftovers could be found in a brown Woolworths paper bag, either in the red-lidded bin located outside the house.


Officers found approximately three bags piled on top of each other. The leftovers, which looked like a meat-filled pastry, were at the bottom of the bottom bag, Rogers said.

Police then took the leftovers to Leongatha Hospital.

The jury heard that at 10.23am, Erin received a phone call from Matthew Patterson, the son of the Don and Gail.

Matthew explained that he was with Don in the intensive care unit, and the toxicologist had inquired where the mushrooms in the meal had come from.

Rogers said Erin responded that there were two sources of mushrooms, fresh mushrooms from Woolworths and dried mushrooms from a Chinese grocer or supermarket within the Oakleigh area.

1.09pm

Doctor concerned for Erin Patterson and her children​

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The jury is being told more about Erin Patterson discharging herself from Leongatha Hospital.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, told the jury that Dr Chris Webster was concerned about Patterson’s health, and made three phone calls using the urgent care centre phone to the accused’s mobile phone. All three calls went through to message bank, Rogers said.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC (centre), outside court on Wednesday.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC (centre), outside court on Wednesday.Credit: Jason South

“He left a voicemail message each time requesting that she return to hospital for treatment. In the third voicemail, Dr Webster said apologetically that he would have to call the police to ask for their assistance in getting her to return to hospital, as he was concerned about her health,” Rogers said.

Later, Webster called both the CEO and director of medical services for Gippsland Southern Health Service to inform them of the situation.

Rogers said that Erin later presented to Leongatha Hospital a second time. She told a nurse that she had diarrheoa and nausea but no vomiting.

“It was at this stage that the accused told [Dr Webster] that her two children had eaten the beef Wellington leftovers. She specified that her two children ate the meat, but not the mushroom or pastry surrounding the meat,” Rogers said.

Webster told Erin that she needed to get the children so they could be treated.

“At that point, the accused became emotional and said, ‘Is this really necessary? They don’t have symptoms’, and she also said they did not eat mushrooms. ‘I just don’t want them to be panicked or stressed’,” Rogers said.

“Dr Webster was blunt and said that they could be assessed, in life, or dead. He also said he thought that the choice was an obvious one.”

Erin Patterson then complained of pain when opening her bowels. Her heart rate and blood pressure were elevated, Rogers told the jury.

Erin reported that she’d started experiencing nausea on July 29, 2023, the day of the lunch, and that she had diarrhoea all through the following day, but it had eased that evening. Erin reported she had diarrhoea again on the morning of July 31, and could not count how many times she had been to the toilet.

 
  • #495
I think it was "elbow cancer" ..... “The accused told them she had a lump in her elbow that needed testing and that she was going to St Vincent Hospital on June 28,” Rogers said.

But, yeah, no IV, blood test showed nothing. ... people are dying and she didn't want preventative treatment or rehydrating.

imo
Apparently elbow lumps can mean ovarian cancer? From the 7 news link upthread:

The court has heard Simon and Don had a private conversation about the lunch after the couple were admitted to hospital.

“Mum doesn’t want me to tell you this. It is about what we talked about at the lunch,” the court heard Don told Simon.

“Erin told us that she had tested for a medical term relating to her elbow. She said it tested positive for ovarian cancer.”

Simon said he had recalled Erin discussing a concerning lump on her elbow, the court heard.
 
  • #496
12.57pm

Where did the mushrooms come from? A phone call from the hospital​

By​

As the jury was shown a photograph of the lunch leftovers, encased in pastry, Crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, spoke about how the police took the beef Wellington to the hospital to help doctors determine what was wrong with the guests.

Rogers said Erin Patterson gave the police the code to the gate and told them the leftovers could be found in a brown Woolworths paper bag, either in the red-lidded bin located outside the house.


Officers found approximately three bags piled on top of each other. The leftovers, which looked like a meat-filled pastry, were at the bottom of the bottom bag, Rogers said.

Police then took the leftovers to Leongatha Hospital.

The jury heard that at 10.23am, Erin received a phone call from Matthew Patterson, the son of the Don and Gail.

Matthew explained that he was with Don in the intensive care unit, and the toxicologist had inquired where the mushrooms in the meal had come from.

Rogers said Erin responded that there were two sources of mushrooms, fresh mushrooms from Woolworths and dried mushrooms from a Chinese grocer or supermarket within the Oakleigh area.

1.09pm

Doctor concerned for Erin Patterson and her children​

By​

The jury is being told more about Erin Patterson discharging herself from Leongatha Hospital.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, told the jury that Dr Chris Webster was concerned about Patterson’s health, and made three phone calls using the urgent care centre phone to the accused’s mobile phone. All three calls went through to message bank, Rogers said.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC (centre), outside court on Wednesday.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC (centre), outside court on Wednesday.Credit: Jason South

“He left a voicemail message each time requesting that she return to hospital for treatment. In the third voicemail, Dr Webster said apologetically that he would have to call the police to ask for their assistance in getting her to return to hospital, as he was concerned about her health,” Rogers said.

Later, Webster called both the CEO and director of medical services for Gippsland Southern Health Service to inform them of the situation.

Rogers said that Erin later presented to Leongatha Hospital a second time. She told a nurse that she had diarrheoa and nausea but no vomiting.

“It was at this stage that the accused told [Dr Webster] that her two children had eaten the beef Wellington leftovers. She specified that her two children ate the meat, but not the mushroom or pastry surrounding the meat,” Rogers said.

Webster told Erin that she needed to get the children so they could be treated.

“At that point, the accused became emotional and said, ‘Is this really necessary? They don’t have symptoms’, and she also said they did not eat mushrooms. ‘I just don’t want them to be panicked or stressed’,” Rogers said.

“Dr Webster was blunt and said that they could be assessed, in life, or dead. He also said he thought that the choice was an obvious one.”

Erin Patterson then complained of pain when opening her bowels. Her heart rate and blood pressure were elevated, Rogers told the jury.

Erin reported that she’d started experiencing nausea on July 29, 2023, the day of the lunch, and that she had diarrhoea all through the following day, but it had eased that evening. Erin reported she had diarrhoea again on the morning of July 31, and could not count how many times she had been to the toilet.

BBM Love the Doc, what a horrible situation for the medical staff
 
  • #497
Apparently elbow lumps can mean ovarian cancer? From the 7 news link upthread:

The court has heard Simon and Don had a private conversation about the lunch after the couple were admitted to hospital.

“Mum doesn’t want me to tell you this. It is about what we talked about at the lunch,” the court heard Don told Simon.

“Erin told us that she had tested for a medical term relating to her elbow. She said it tested positive for ovarian cancer.”

Simon said he had recalled Erin discussing a concerning lump on her elbow, the court heard.

What?? How weird. What she said, I mean. Not your post - thanks for that.

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  7. Unintentional weight loss
  8. Gastrointestinal disturbances
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  • #498
23m ago

Ms Patterson was transferred to Monash Hospital, along with the leftovers​


By Judd Boaz​

The court has just been shown an image of the recovered leftovers — a stale-looking pastry with some brown filling inside.

Ms Patterson was transferred by ambulance from Leongatha Hospital to Monash Hospital, along with the leftovers of the lunch.

Paramedics said she complained of a headache on the way, but did not ask to use the toilet during the 90-minute journey.

When asked during the journey how much she had eaten, Ms Patterson said she had not eaten too much as she was too busy talking to her guests, Dr Rogers told the jury.

Monash medical staff said Ms Patterson seemed well on arrival and showed good vital signs, Dr Rogers said.

Prosecutors allege that when questioned further by hospital staff, Ms Patterson said she had used a combination of sliced button mushrooms and dried mushrooms to make the mushroom paste for the beef Wellington.

Dr Rogers said Ms Patterson claimed she had not used any of the dried mushrooms prior to making the lunch.

Ms Patterson denied using wild or foraged mushrooms.

19m ago

Court has adjourned for a lunch break​


By Joseph Dunstan​

The hearing has been paused briefly for a lunch break.

When it resumes, crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC will continue outlining the case against Erin Patterson.

 
  • #499
I only have 4 large plates, mainly because I don't have people over often and don't want extra crockery hanging around. Saying, this could have an innocent explanation.
Except that she made a point in her statement that the guests each chose their own served plate, and she took the one that was left.

This is looking very bad already.
 
  • #500
Except that she made a point in her statement that the guests each chose their own served plate, and she took the one that was left.

This is looking very bad already.
I agree JLZ, red flags everywhere IMO

And she new the afternoon before that Simon was not coming ( in one of my many links ) & still went ahead with the meal
 
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