Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

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I’m no expert, but these sheep look freshly shorn to me. Perhaps there are, or have been recently, shearers staying on the property to do the shearing?
And it looks like more work ahead too with the couple of lambs seen in the pic still have their tails attached. So the lambs will be due for museling (extremely severe form of tail docking) - if they do this, any day, before the weather gets any warmer. And also would usually mark the new sheep usually with ear tags.


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I was also approached by DM after making a comment on a news report on social media. I chose to decline, but I can just imagine how they would have twisted my words to suit the narrative. They're good at finding a way in, a so called "scoop" just for click bait.
They're no different than other "popular" news sources or mass market media in the UK which have paid for news stories, "popular interest" stories and photographs for many decades. Finding stories in the first place is as much part of "investigative" journalism as digging up the dirt on the stories they've found.
 
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Why the need to hide a child's body if it was genuinely an accident though? If a child was well loved and cared for and died in an accident then the family would be distraught. It would be very difficult for everyone to keep that quiet. I don't see why you would.
Most people would not. Most people would call 000.

There's no evidence police have found a hidden body from an accident.

Imo
 
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My Opinion Only:

Well, it has been reported before that Josh doesn't live with his little family on the Oak Park Rd station due to "family clashes" with Gus' grandparent Josie.

The Daily Mail has been told that while Josh and Jess remained a couple, he does not live on the station because of family clashes with Jess's transgender parent, Josie.

I'm curious as to what exactly "family clashes" means. It could mean a lot of things. Something bad enough to keep Josh away from his family, obviously. Is it possible that Josh has been banned from the station?

Is it is possible that there might have been coercive control or another form of family violence involved? Family violence doesn't just mean hitting someone, it can be a whole range of actions of non-physical abuse as well.

It was mentioned in an article yesterday that Josh had been fixing up his house so that Jess & the kids could come and live with him there.

In the lead up to Gus Lamont's disappearance, the heartbroken father of the missing four-year-old had been painstakingly renovating a house in a nearby town, preparing it for his young family to move into before the little boy vanished.

Friends say the devoted dad was counting down the months until Gus began school, eager to create a stable home life after years of living between two properties.


If this is true, it must mean the move was going to happen by January next year, in order for little Gus to start the school year. If so, the deadline was approaching relatively fast.

I wonder what Gus' aging grandparents would have thought of the move? I'd imagine the family's work on the property would be sorely missed - it has been reported that they are used to and prefer isolation, so I doubt they employ workers on a day-to-day basis. Seasonal, perhaps. But I'd assume the day-to-day operations are run by the family only.

Is Jess an only child?

In my opinion it could have been planned for Jess, and eventually Gus & Ronnie to take over the family property when the time was right. Which would be in the relatively near future, in my opinion. Surely they were planning for the family station to continue?

Continuing on with my postulation - I also assume that since they had spent their lives on the property, preferring the isolation, that they would have wanted to continue staying there well into old age. Age waits for no one - there would come a point in the near future where they could no longer operate the station without younger family members taking over.

It's possible (hypothetically) that there were two different ideas about where the future was headed.

The most dangerous time for someone to leave an abusive relationship (whether family or intimate partner), centers around the period of leaving.
The time of separation is particularly dangerous for many victims.

Perpetrators who experience a loss of control at this point may try to regain it through escalating forms of violence. In some cases this amounts to the killing of the victim and/or her children as the ultimate act of power and control. Ending an abusive relationship therefore does not necessarily end the abuse. For some victims, it can make it worse.


Well, who knows, I don't know for sure. Just postulating an idea which struck me when I read the article about the family preparing to leave the station. My Opinion Only.
I’m so glad I’m not alone in this line of thinking. My pessimism can get the best of me at times. However, I feel as though something is terribly off with this story and some form of human intervention is involved in his disappearance. I trust that police are investigating all avenues to ensure the truth comes out.
 
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My Opinion Only:

Well, it has been reported before that Josh doesn't live with his little family on the Oak Park Rd station due to "family clashes" with Gus' grandparent Josie.

The Daily Mail has been told that while Josh and Jess remained a couple, he does not live on the station because of family clashes with Jess's transgender parent, Josie.

I'm curious as to what exactly "family clashes" means. It could mean a lot of things. Something bad enough to keep Josh away from his family, obviously. Is it possible that Josh has been banned from the station?

Is it is possible that there might have been coercive control or another form of family violence involved? Family violence doesn't just mean hitting someone, it can be a whole range of actions of non-physical abuse as well.

It was mentioned in an article yesterday that Josh had been fixing up his house so that Jess & the kids could come and live with him there.

In the lead up to Gus Lamont's disappearance, the heartbroken father of the missing four-year-old had been painstakingly renovating a house in a nearby town, preparing it for his young family to move into before the little boy vanished.

Friends say the devoted dad was counting down the months until Gus began school, eager to create a stable home life after years of living between two properties.


If this is true, it must mean the move was going to happen by January next year, in order for little Gus to start the school year. If so, the deadline was approaching relatively fast.

I wonder what Gus' aging grandparents would have thought of the move? I'd imagine the family's work on the property would be sorely missed - it has been reported that they are used to and prefer isolation, so I doubt they employ workers on a day-to-day basis. Seasonal, perhaps. But I'd assume the day-to-day operations are run by the family only.

Is Jess an only child?

In my opinion it could have been planned for Jess, and eventually Gus & Ronnie to take over the family property when the time was right. Which would be in the relatively near future, in my opinion. Surely they were planning for the family station to continue?

Continuing on with my postulation - I also assume that since they had spent their lives on the property, preferring the isolation, that they would have wanted to continue staying there well into old age. Age waits for no one - there would come a point in the near future where they could no longer operate the station without younger family members taking over.

It's possible (hypothetically) that there were two different ideas about where the future was headed.


The most dangerous time for someone to leave an abusive relationship (whether family or intimate partner), centers around the period of leaving.
The time of separation is particularly dangerous for many victims.

Perpetrators who experience a loss of control at this point may try to regain it through escalating forms of violence. In some cases this amounts to the killing of the victim and/or her children as the ultimate act of power and control. Ending an abusive relationship therefore does not necessarily end the abuse. For some victims, it can make it worse.


Well, who knows, I don't know for sure. Just postulating an idea which struck me when I read the article about the family preparing to leave the station. My Opinion Only.
This gives me chills.
 
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Most people would not. Most people would call 000.

There's no evidence police have found a hidden body from an accident.

Imo
What if he was accidentally killed by someone in a rage , then there would be a reason to cover up
 
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What a mystery.
Surely the extensive searches would’ve found Gus if he had wandered off and got lost .

If someone drove along Oak Park Road,which passes close to other homesteads, someone would’ve noticed all the dust.

Given the location it’s more likely a case of overzealous discipline which would give the family a reason to hide the body and cover up . If it was an accident of another type I doubt the need for a cover up. This theory explains why the little fellow has vanished without a trace but I’m not sure how the mother and two grandparents could fool the police. The 000 call would have been recorded. I have added an article explaining the difference between guilty and innocent callers
Interesting research, thanks for sharing. Where can I read more about it? Do you have a link handy?

I hate to think of that precious little one bring the victim of harsh punishment. Though I must admit that my mind has gone down that road and on to even more sinister possibilities.

Best case scenario would be that Gus went on a fun adventure and didn’t make it home.

Moo
 
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My Opinion Only:

Well, it has been reported before that Josh doesn't live with his little family on the Oak Park Rd station due to "family clashes" with Gus' grandparent Josie.

The Daily Mail has been told that while Josh and Jess remained a couple, he does not live on the station because of family clashes with Jess's transgender parent, Josie.

I'm curious as to what exactly "family clashes" means. It could mean a lot of things. Something bad enough to keep Josh away from his family, obviously. Is it possible that Josh has been banned from the station?
I've snipped your post for the sake of brevity but I wish I could give it more than one thumbs-up as it pulls together so much of what we know, what we don't know and the spaces in-between. Very pertinent comments on bad family dynamics and how they can play out when things shift.
 
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Most people would not. Most people would call 000.

There's no evidence police have found a hidden body from an accident.

Imo
The question is was the area locked down or treated as a possibility right from the get go?? Has that property had a complete forensic assessment done??

There would be more than 1 workable car on that property. Did major crime swab all cars?? Were sprays used like Luminol??

It's just like the case of William Tyrrell who was just a little boy lost at first....but possibly so much evidence lost at the start as it wasn't being treated for something more nefarious.

We know major crime attended, but they didn't stay for very long.

All Police Force's across Australia should all run the same protocols for missing children IMO and all missing children should be treated as suspicious right from the start and a complete lockdown area initiated to avoid lost evidence if it is a more nefarious crime.

Looking back when WA Police were looking for Cleo nothing was off limits to them and they went through everything with a fine tooth comb. They had the tent site tapped off pretty quick, spent a number of day's forensically testing her parents house etc etc. Such a meticulous job done by WAPOL
 
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Approx distance from homestead to Oak Park Road entry.

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Just re-adding distance from homestead to Oak Park Road with link.

 

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When is the last time his dad saw him?

Why did he find out about his missing son via the police and not family?

They searched for three hours before calling for help, the dad lives two hours away.

Where are you Gus…
 
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The question is was the area locked down or treated as a possibility right from the get go?? Has that property had a complete forensic assessment done??

There would be more than 1 workable car on that property. Did major crime swab all cars?? Were sprays used like Luminol??

It's just like the case of William Tyrrell who was just a little boy lost at first....but possibly so much evidence lost at the start as it wasn't being treated for something more nefarious.

We know major crime attended, but they didn't stay for very long.

All Police Force's across Australia should all run the same protocols for missing children IMO and all missing children should be treated as suspicious right from the start and a complete lockdown area initiated to avoid lost evidence if it is a more nefarious crime.

Looking back when WA Police were looking for Cleo nothing was off limits to them and they went through everything with a fine tooth comb. They had the tent site tapped off pretty quick, spent a number of day's forensically testing her parents house etc etc. Such a meticulous job done by WAPOL
Trust me, I'm thinking all of the same things as you.

When the immediate family are not treated like persons of interest from the get-go, things can get missed and evidence can be lost.

The William Tyrrell case was a stuff up from the very beginning. I hope to God that SAPOL have robust procedures for missing children, starting with the last person to see that child alive, eg.

I hope SAPOL have used luminal on floors and walls, and forensically searched all of the cars belonging to residents of Oak Park but part of me doubts that they have. I can't imagine them wanting to offend the Murray clan.

Imo
 
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All Police Force's across Australia should all run the same protocols for missing children IMO and all missing children should be treated as suspicious right from the start and a complete lockdown area initiated to avoid lost evidence if it is a more nefarious crime.
They should, I agree! But our states and territories seem to run these investigations each according to their own procedures. Imo

It would be helpful if there were a nation-wide standard operating procedure for responding to "lost children under 5" cases, for example, which are very different to teenage missing persons cases.

I also think politics and budget constraints come into play with regards to these operational decisions more than we think. Imo
 
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