Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Cindy006789]

Hi jepop,
I enjoy reading your posts.
In-laws in QLD have a very large property. They have a grassed section for children and grandchildren and no sandpit because snakes are attracted to sandpits. On removing a sandpit in my last property we found a nest of baby brown snakes.
In this vicinity of GL snakes are everywhere and as I have earlier stated the active months. September. Tiger snakes and copperheads are attracted to sand particularly wet sand. Did GL have a bucket and spade and perhaps a hose to cool him down?
My points are very relevant to this case given that we have only been given few areas of point of contact and where individuals are placed.

Im not sure about the snake angle. Surly being a rural property they would have a snake bite kit on hand in case of bites. Surly if the child was bitten paramedics would be notified and the child transported to hospital. Im unsure of the snake types for that area but being inland i would presume brown snakes which are aggressive and deadly. Tiger snakes are more coastal as are copperheads. Copperhead snakes are shy and generally not aggressive unless startled.

 

[jepop]

hi jepop,
Thank you for your post.
Further in the investigation in the disappearance of Gus Lamont:
This is a link of 43 brown snake eggs found in a sandpit in 7 nests
Dozens of reptile eggs found in Australian school sandpit

' "I believed they were brown snake eggs due to the fact that they were seen in the area and that when I shone a light through the egg, I saw a small striped baby snake," Mr Miller explained'

Per your link it seems this was seen as an unusual occurrence (in the state of NSW at least), additionally at the end of the day (scroll down in the report) they could not be sure they were not the eggs of a harmless reptile.

I feel like this convo is branching off into OT territory at this point, so I'm moving on. Thank you for posting that interesting link though.

 

[Spectrix]

Quite a detailed summary by a local Daily Mail reporter on Gus Lamont's case as it stands.

 

[sapphire blue]

Im not sure about the snake angle. Surly being a rural property they would have a snake bite kit on hand in case of bites. Surly if the child was bitten paramedics would be notified and the child transported to hospital. Im unsure of the snake types for that area but being inland i would presume brown snakes which are aggressive and deadly. Tiger snakes are more coastal as are copperheads. Copperhead snakes are shy and generally not aggressive unless startled.

The most common snakes in the region are various brown snakes - Eastern brown, western brown, king brown, the common death adder, bandy bandy, desert whip snake, yellow faced whip snake, red bellied black and tiger snakes are also possible.

 

[Warshawski]

Gus's mum flees her hideaway home after cops 'suspect' bombshell

Gus Lamont's devastated mother Jessica Murray has fled her hideaway home in Adelaideafter she moved out of the outback station where her son disappeared.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Poor Jess. I can’t begin to imagine her pain, nor the state she must be in. If it’s true she’s moved in with a friend, I think that’s good, and I hope that friend can wrap her up securely.

 

[Warshawski]

hi jepop,
Thank you for your post.
Further in the investigation in the disappearance of Gus Lamont:
This is a link of 43 brown snake eggs found in a sandpit in 7 nests
Dozens of reptile eggs found in Australian school sandpit

' "I believed they were brown snake eggs due to the fact that they were seen in the area and that when I shone a light through the egg, I saw a small striped baby snake," Mr Miller explained'

Thanks for this info wulfmoon, but would you please indulge me in expressing my frustration at continually hearing about snakes !
I grew up in the bush, I’m aware of snakes, of the danger of their bites and of the need to respect their territory, not to threaten them etc etc. (We were always taught - if you see a snake, stand still and let it pass. …. although I recall a time when playing chasey around the house my young cousin had no time to stop so he just jumped over the top & kept going ! leaving me wide eyed and stuck to my spot behind )

However re Gus, the question (imo) has always been ‘ where is he ?’ and in reality, if he’d been bitten by a snake and died as a result, in the most basic of normal situations he should still have been found in the area of the homestead.

Classifications of ‘criminal activity’ / major crime etc comes in when there’s human intervention in the disappearance of a person. … and in the way I heard things the other day, SAPOL have determined that someone known to Gus is responsible for him no longer being present ( with great emphasis put on absolving Gus’s parents of any involvement)

It’s quite obvious to me from the police statement that focus is on either Josie or Shannon. And so I think it’s relevant that I focus my attention there. .. as to who, why did it happen / how did it happen , and where is his little body. This to me is quite confronting, given the remoteness, extreme heat & animals of prey in almost desert like conditions.

The Who etc is still a work in progress for my addled brain !

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021522047491326036

"Superintendent Fielke added:

'I anticipate there will be further searches at Oak Park Station
and at several sites on an adjacent national park
to locate Gus
as new information and intelligence comes to hand'."

 

[BreakingNews]

Quite a detailed summary by a local Daily Mail reporter on Gus Lamont's case as it stands.

Very good summary by DM reporters.

 

[Eloise]

It is a great video for seeing exactly what that country looks like. Better than just photos

 

[_sleuthdog_]

I’m so glad we know what JM ordered at the cafe.

FFS

 

[Dotta]

I’m so glad we know what JM ordered at the cafe.

FFS

Is it local delicacy???
It looked delicious.

But seriously,
I wonder what evidence will be found on this station.
No crime is perfect as some say.
Evidence is patiently waiting to be found.

Silent witnesses.

JMO

 

[wulfmoon]

Thanks for this info wulfmoon, but would you please indulge me in expressing my frustration at continually hearing about snakes !
I grew up in the bush, I’m aware of snakes, of the danger of their bites and of the need to respect their territory, not to threaten them etc etc. (We were always taught - if you see a snake, stand still and let it pass. …. although I recall a time when playing chasey around the house my young cousin had no time to stop so he just jumped over the top & kept going ! leaving me wide eyed and stuck to my spot behind )

However re Gus, the question (imo) has always been ‘ where is he ?’ and in reality, if he’d been bitten by a snake and died as a result, in the most basic of normal situations he should still have been found in the area of the homestead.

Classifications of ‘criminal activity’ / major crime etc comes in when there’s human intervention in the disappearance of a person. … and in the way I heard things the other day, SAPOL have determined that someone known to Gus is responsible for him no longer being present ( with great emphasis put on absolving Gus’s parents of any involvement)

It’s quite obvious to me from the police statement that focus is on either Josie or Shannon. And so I think it’s relevant that I focus my attention there. .. as to who, why did it happen / how did it happen , and where is his little body. This to me is quite confronting, given the remoteness, extreme heat & animals of prey in almost desert like conditions.

The Who etc is still a work in progress for my addled brain !

Thank you for your clarification of direction.
There is a background to the snake. The proposed theory stems of course from JM stating they had shot at a snake in the vicinity of the porch and that is the reason they had the shotgun which the DM filmed and which the DM informed the police. This is one of the only few threads of fact that has been documented if indeed JM was shooting at a snake or simply concocted the story to justify the presentation of a shotgun.
The presented scenario is just one suspected scenario--a scenario in which may have easily got out of hand in which GL is bitten and looses unconscious and dies in a period of time in which SM was not looking out and after GL. SM panics and the body is disposed of and the 2 JM's arrive back and GS is gone. SM has sunken into a deep depression.
You have to remember that there is a suspected cover-up and a period of time that sits in a vagary of the abyss in this entire unknown period of time. If young JM was involved it surely would have been done and dusted and the police called in. But perhaps a cover-up evolved.
It is suspected that GL has been removed from the scene at play and other parties at that time we're not aware of it and perhaps JM knows and is protecting.
I know everybody hates snakes but JM mentioned it and it is actuality or invention or the unconscious metaphor (iceberg theory) All variables at play.
(There are 4 species of snakes in that area which I have researched including those I have already stated)
*Remove the snake and supplant another aggressor or variable.
Dare I mention a theory here on WS's for I will be bitten by it!

 

[alicrocodile]

Theres definitely snakes around that area and you would most likely see them (or at least their skin) sometimes but I really doubt thats the answer. No one in that area would cover up a snake bite, most would know what to do immediately too. honestly no one would judge that at all even if he wasnt being watched at that moment, country people understand these things can happen unexpectedly. some people would even think its cool/something to be proud of if you survived a bite.

 

[JLZ]

Thank you for your clarification of direction.
There is a background to the snake. The proposed theory stems of course from JM stating they had shot at a snake in the vicinity of the porch and that is the reason they had the shotgun which the DM filmed and which the DM informed the police. This is one of the only few threads of fact that has been documented if indeed JM was shooting at a snake or simply concocted the story to justify the presentation of a shotgun.
The presented scenario is just one suspected scenario--a scenario in which may have easily got out of hand in which GL is bitten and looses unconscious and dies in a period of time in which SM was not looking out and after GL. SM panics and the body is disposed of and the 2 JM's arrive back and GS is gone. SM has sunken into a deep depression.
You have to remember that there is a suspected cover-up and a period of time that sits in a vagary of the abyss in this entire unknown period of time. If young JM was involved it surely would have been done and dusted and the police called in. But perhaps a cover-up evolved.
It is suspected that GL has been removed from the scene at play and other parties at that time we're not aware of it and perhaps JM knows and is protecting.
I know everybody hates snakes but JM mentioned it and it is actuality or invention or the unconscious metaphor (iceberg theory) All variables at play.
(There are 4 species of snakes in that area which I have researched including those I have already stated)
*Remove the snake and supplant another aggressor or variable.
Dare I mention a theory here on WS's for I will be bitten by it!

The scenario you describe is death by misadventure. I can barely believe it might lead one person to panic and hide the body. I cannot at all believe that it would lead three people to participate in a cover-up and lie to police over several months while large dangerous expensive searches were happening thus putting themselves at risk of suspicion of murder. Also, if Gus had died of a snake bite and his family had bizarrely decided to conceal the fact, a snake on the porch is the last excuse Josie would have reached for when asked why she was wielding a gun. Nobody would be mentioning snakes.

 

[Dotta]

IMO
Snakes are red herrings in this case.

 

[hoodunnit]

The proposed theory stems of course from JM stating they had shot at a snake in the vicinity of the porch and that is the reason they had the shotgun which the DM filmed and which the DM informed the police. This is one of the only few threads of fact that has been documented if indeed JM was shooting at a snake or simply concocted the story to justify the presentation of a shotgun.

Where is it stated that it was, in fact, JM who actually gave a snake as the purpose for the gun? IFIRC it was LE who "suggested" she may have been carrying the gun for a reason such as a snake, not that it had actually been explained as this by JM.

 

[_sleuthdog_]

DBM

 

[wulfmoon]

DBM

There is a photograph of SM seated holding a baby GL.
How do we move from that to DBM and young JM not sounding the alarm? As I have implied earlier: the young JM would have spoken out about the murder of her young child. It is a case of consealment.
MOO

 

[Dotta]

There is a photograph of SM seated holding a baby GL.
How do we move from that to DBM and young JM not sounding the alarm? As I have implied earlier: the young JM would have spoken out about the murder of her young child. It is a case of consealament.
MOO

AFAIK
the only photo shown in MSM of SM holding a baby
is the one
where a baby is her daughter - Jess.

JMO

 

[wulfmoon]

The scenario you describe is death by misadventure. I can barely believe it might lead one person to panic and hide the body. I cannot at all believe that it would lead three people to participate in a cover-up and lie to police over several months while large dangerous expensive searches were happening thus putting themselves at risk of suspicion of murder. Also, if Gus had died of a snake bite and his family had bizarrely decided to conceal the fact, a snake on the porch is the last excuse Josie would have reached for when asked why she was wielding a gun. Nobody would be mentioning snakes.

No--I did not imply that young JM was involved in a cover-up. It is old JM who is protecting.
MOO