• #4,801
Did they have other animals on the farm, such as pigs?
 
  • #4,802
Did they have other animals on the farm, such as pigs?

It is not a farm. It is a vast sheep station. Perhaps called a ranch, in some other countries.
There is no indication that any other livestock are present (from aerial photos).

imo
 
  • #4,803
Did they have other animals on the farm, such as pigs?
Early on there was a lot of discussion around possible animal involvement (dingos and feral pigs particularly), but that was pretty solidly ruled out. They're on the other side of the dingo fence, so there aren't many around and there was no sign of one, as well as no sign of a struggle. No signs of feral pigs in the immediate area either. And wedgetail eagles can't lift prey Gus's size (which was another popular theory for how he could just vanish with no tracks).

More recently they released the drone data collected that surveyed and tallied up good sized animals in the area. Aside from their massive herd of sheep, kangaroos, wallabies, some eagles, and a ton of goats (almost certainly feral ones). It didn't pick up anything that could disappear a 4 year old like this.
 
  • #4,804
I still think the person holding baby is JM, has very long legs
Shannon is of very similar height to Robert/Josie -- have a look at current photos. Shannons father was very tall & she has the same feature
 
  • #4,805
Might be different if you knew your SIL was not happy with his child being on the property as he had said it was dangerous and now hes been proven right ! Your thinking now SIL may insist the baby brother cant stay there anymore and you were worried you may not see your daughter and grandson again because of what has happened to Gus???? MOO
Let me elaborate the above, what I meant was a FATAL snake bite. An adult may be able to survive a snake bite, but Gus is a small child, a bite could have been lethal.
 
  • #4,806
That makes no sense, the dad would be fine with the baby staying there after his brother goes missing but would make it an issue for them over a bite, that most people around there would be very understanding of?

Honestly I think something happened that one or both of the grandparents caused, unintentionally or otherwise, that they covered up. Something that while possibly accidental would look much worse than a snake bite. If they were all that concerned about the dads reaction to a bite they all could've got help and just lied about where it happened. Anyway, i seriously doubt the dads issue with everyone staying there is because of a lack of snake safety. my opinion.
I certainly would not allow my other child to stay there (in the grandparents care) if they had already let one wander off and an official significant ground search had to made to find him!!
 
  • #4,807
I certainly would not allow my other child to stay there (in the grandparents care) if they had already let one wander off and an official significant ground search had to made to find him!!
I was thinking this earlier. The father reportedly didn't think the property was safe - and to be fair, it seems he was correct - I can't believe the baby is still living there. I'd do whatever I needed to to get him away from there, even if I had to go to court.
 
  • #4,808
I was thinking this earlier. The father reportedly didn't think the property was safe - and to be fair, it seems he was correct - I can't believe the baby is still living there. I'd do whatever I needed to to get him away from there, even if I had to go to court.
Where are you getting that Gus' mum and her other son are still (ie at present and even over the last few months) residing at Oak Park? I don't think this has been reported anywhere afaik. Source needed.
 
  • #4,809
I was thinking this earlier. The father reportedly didn't think the property was safe - and to be fair, it seems he was correct - I can't believe the baby is still living there. I'd do whatever I needed to to get him away from there, even if I had to go to court.
Correct, this is what i was trying to convey.
Also, it has been reported in the media that Jess and her youngest son, Ronnie, left the Yunta Station property sometime ago and were residing in Adelaide with the childrens Father. According to local media, shortly after the latest accusations, Jess and Ronnie left the Adelaide property and are now residing at an unknown address. We do not know if Josh (the Father of her children) is with them.
 
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Dbm
 
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DBM
 
  • #4,812
I've been wracking my brain trying to think of where Gus could have ended up that would interfere with the ability of sniffer dogs to trace him. A place that would be prohibitive to search and possibly overlooked.

Then it struck me, most large outback stations tend to have their own fuel and chemical storage. A large fuel storage tank (or chemical storage tank) would fit the bill, covering smells, requiring safety protocols and PPE to empty and search, being overlooked (would just be a fuel pump visible if the storage was underground) and possibly being costly (in the case of wasted fuels).

So i've been wondering if Oak Park Station has a large underground or aboveground Diesel fuel storage tank or if any of the adjoining properties have one? They are pretty close to Yunta after all, so maybe they don't need one.

If they do have one, I wonder if it has been emptied and searched?

JMO
 
  • #4,813
I've been wracking my brain trying to think of where Gus could have ended up that would interfere with the ability of sniffer dogs to trace him. A place that would be prohibitive to search and possibly overlooked.

Then it struck me, most large outback stations tend to have their own fuel and chemical storage. A large fuel storage tank (or chemical storage tank) would fit the bill, covering smells, requiring safety protocols and PPE to empty and search, being overlooked (would just be a fuel pump visible if the storage was underground) and possibly being costly (in the case of wasted fuels).

So i've been wondering if Oak Park Station has a large underground or aboveground Diesel fuel storage tank or if any of the adjoining properties have one? They are pretty close to Yunta after all, so maybe they don't need one.

If they do have one, I wonder if it has been emptied and searched?

JMO
IIRC, a few missing people have ultimately been found in septic tanks.

Right now trying to dig up and dig through the various reports and confirm details, one point I haven't been able to establish yet is if the searchers actually used K9 units/sniffer dogs in those early searches. It's not mentioned in any of the SAPOL releases I've looked at so far, but also some of the earlier ones seem to have been taken down. Also possible that they're just part of the various search, rescue, and LE units that are mentioned by name, but the only dogs I've seen so far are the family's, running around in pictures of JM.

That said, if they were there, agree, IMO it's odd enough that they weren't able to trace him to suggest some possibilities.
 

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