Australia Australia - Celine Cremer, 31, Belgium backpacker, car found at the Philosopher’s fall track, Waratah, Tasmania, 12 June 2023

[TootsieFootsie]

I'll have to find the link later but at least one of the news articles said the track turn that Celine seems to have missed did not have any signage.

Since she went missing signage has been added.

 

[Malleeboy]

What we might see as a track that no one would miss becomes a different story when the weather is turning bad and the light is fading.

Out there you could easily start doubting yourself and in those circumstances it's easy to start doubting yourself.
Haven't I been past here before ? I'm sure this couldn't be the way, I'll go the other way etc.

Take for instance GPS map instructions that fail when the human part of you actually starts to doubt the instructions.
I've seen it happen.

And human beings don't always think rationally when their situation changes.

What we think of as a way we or anybody would act is not the way that everybody acts.

The video has a 2 to 3 bank, the flat track is about 1.5 feet, and the way she is going after she crosses the water run path is extremely step.

 

[Malleeboy]

I'll have to find the link later but at least one of the news articles said the track turn that Celine seems to have missed did not have any signage.

Since she went missing signage has been added.

If you watch the last video I posted, Rob shows the path without signage and the current signage.

 

[Malleeboy]

3C... 37F... not below freezing but cold and damp. Had she eaten recently? was she 100% healthy? You can get hypothermia any time you can't maintain your body temperature, so I don't know.

She was in Waratah, went to the toilet, and a servo around lunch time, spent 20 minutes in car at the falls car park (which may have been a lunch break.) I suppose if someone had access to her credit cards, it may confirm if she bought food, however she had been sleeping in her car so may have food in the car and appears to have parked to allow herself to camp in the car park and she had opportunity to buy more food.

 

[Malleeboy]

My other question is that she had a phone that was in linking to a cell tower at times during her walk on the hill but makes no calls for assistance.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

My guess is she thought she could find her own way back.
She didn't think she was in trouble until after she'd dropped her phone and couldn't find it.

 

[Chiatos]

Hi everyone, here is some interesting 9 year old footage of the path between Philosopher´s falls and Magnet Dam. I have no idea why Celine would have chosen to follow that path all by herself. It's an ugly path.

Magnet 2 Dam, 2016.

 

[Rocket333]

Hi everyone, here is some interesting 9 year old footage of the path between Philosopher´s falls and Magnet Dam. I have no idea why Celine would have chosen to follow that path all by herself. It's an ugly path.

Magnet 2 Dam, 2016.

I’m simply thinking that she thought it was a circuit looping back to the falls or the car park, perhaps.

 

[Grouse]

I'll have to find the link later but at least one of the news articles said the track turn that Celine seems to have missed did not have any signage.

Since she went missing signage has been added.

I just relooked at the Rob Parsons video that Malleboy linked above and specifically at 16:58, at the key point, he says "ah, so Celine went up there". Actually there still didn't appear to be any signage on that bit, only the markers that have been left by SES since.

Such an easy mistake to make as on the GPS you are actually going away from the falls at that point, before the path proper bends to the right. If she hadn't been looking at the GPS at that point she might have continued on the right way. So tragic.

 

[Cedars]

Such an easy mistake to make as on the GPS you are actually going away from the falls at that point, before the path proper bends to the right. If she hadn't been looking at the GPS at that point she might have continued on the right way. So tragic.

Yes, something like 'Oh great, a shortcut'. Unfortunately, it may be the mistake many people have made, who've gone missing in the wilderness.

JMO

 

[Grouse]

Yes, something like 'Oh great, a shortcut'. Unfortunately, it may be the mistake many people have made, who've gone missing in the wilderness.

JMO

Yes, or actually I wonder she may have thought it was the correct path, the one she came up on? None of them look very distinct to me, I could very easily get lost in there.

I'm used to more detail on the mapping apps I use (as in UK ordnance survey maps, with paths marked) but on Rob's phone on google maps there was hardly any detail to show paths or anything - guess that's just because of how remote ,vast, wild and unmapped it is compared to where I live.

 

[Cedars]

Yes, or actually I wonder she may have thought it was the correct path, the one she came up on? None of them look very distinct to me, I could very easily get lost in there.

I'm used to more detail on the mapping apps I use (as in UK ordnance survey maps, with paths marked) but on Rob's phone on google maps there was hardly any detail to show paths or anything - guess that's just because of how remote ,vast, wild and unmapped it is compared to where I live.

For myself, I'd remember whether I'd climbed down such a steep slope, just a few minutes earlier...

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think the fading light may have played a part.

 

[Chiatos]

I’m simply thinking that she thought it was a circuit looping back to the falls or the car park, perhaps.

I don´t get why Celine would have skipped a visit to the Falls to start with.
In order to create a phone ping at 15:32 near Magnet Dam, she must have ignored the steps that take down to the Falls.

Celine was informed by the lady at the grocery store in town about Philosopher's Falls, only minutes before she reached the car park. So Celine decided to visit the Falls.
Celine walked the track that takes to the Falls, but decided to skip the Falls and she pressed on, along the water race. After some time, she tried to take a short cut in the direction of the Falls.......

 

[Malleeboy]

Celine had keys and her phone, and possibly a garbage bag and water bottle.
They could all fit in her pockets, except for the water bottle. It is just a commercial water bottle

'Potential shelter' found in bushland search for Celine Cremer

Searchers find a water bottle and a garbage bag that may have been used as a poncho in the Tasmanian bushland where Belgian tourist Celine Cremer went missing.

www.abc.net.au

In this report there is picture of the bottle and bag, and what looks like some sort or purple/pink item with a knot in it. Bottle had expiry date of Apr 2024, the still type of water has a 18-month date, which puts in within Celine's window.
But the bottle looks glass and heavy. Hard to imagine she carried it all that distance in her hands, makes me think she may have had a backpack.

 

[Rocket333]

Celine had keys and her phone, and possibly a garbage bag and water bottle.
They could all fit in her pockets, except for the water bottle. It is just a commercial water bottle

'Potential shelter' found in bushland search for Celine Cremer

Searchers find a water bottle and a garbage bag that may have been used as a poncho in the Tasmanian bushland where Belgian tourist Celine Cremer went missing.

www.abc.net.au

In this report there is picture of the bottle and bag, and what looks like some sort or purple/pink item with a knot in it. Bottle had expiry date of Apr 2024, the still type of water has a 18-month date, which puts in within Celine's window.
But the bottle looks glass and heavy. Hard to imagine she carried it all that distance in her hands, makes me think she may have had a backpack.

Good point about a backpack. Maybe she discarded the bottle and garbage bag when they had no further value and she was moving on. The pink thing is tape tied to the tree by the search party.

 

[Malleeboy]

First part of the search, Rob Parsons with Celine friends. but the more formal line search. This one has the phone being found, you can see where it was lying, and the start of the search on the next day.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Community Search For Belgian Traveller Céline Cremer

Courtesy Rob Parsons Facebook It’s been two and a half years since Céline Cremer disappeared in the forests outside Waratah, on Tasmania’s rugged West Coast. Since that day, her family, her friends, and everyone who has followed this story has been left with questions, and no clear answers. Over...

tasmaniantimes.com

Tasmanian Times
26 December 2025

Community Search For Belgian Traveller Céline Cremer

 

[Rocket333]

Community Search For Belgian Traveller Céline Cremer

Courtesy Rob Parsons Facebook It’s been two and a half years since Céline Cremer disappeared in the forests outside Waratah, on Tasmania’s rugged West Coast. Since that day, her family, her friends, and everyone who has followed this story has been left with questions, and no clear answers. Over...

tasmaniantimes.com

Tasmanian Times
26 December 2025

Community Search For Belgian Traveller Céline Cremer

Thanks for posting the video Tootsie. We’re lucky to be able to watch the search vicariously. It drives home how huge and complicated that terrain is, and the tangled layers they need to search under their feet, and often up to their knees.

It’ll be good to see the next video with the bottle and bag discovery, and to hear what comes out of the forensic testing of the bottle, bag and phone. All of it will shape how the search is calibrated going forward.