Australia Australia - Chantelle, 27, and Leela McDougall, 6, Toni Popic, 40, Nannup, 13 July 2007

  • #221
Post#53 sounds very much like Sir_laughs_a_lot https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=152174&page=3
And sounds like he was particularly "bitter" on Gary, blaming him on losing his business and lively hood

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That's quite a post. [emoji102]

So SK "the spy who tagged him" pushed him out of the growers market in Nannup. Apparently, side effects of the product are paranoia and delusion.
 
  • #222
That's quite a post. [emoji102]

So SK "the spy who tagged him" pushed him out of the growers market in Nannup. Apparently, side effects of the product are paranoia and delusion.
Motive, Opportunity. Did he have means to be involved in this disappearance?

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Motive, Opportunity. Did he have means to be involved in this disappearance?

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He certainly upholds the scenario of someone unknown crossed their path. Beyond that, I don't know. Hmmm...

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  • #225
He certainly upholds the scenario of someone unknown crossed their path. Beyond that, I don't know. Hmmm...

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Leaving that one to the Police. I would be very surprised if they hadn't taken an interest years ago, and decided it was a crank or hoax.

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  • #226
Leaving that one to the Police. I would be very surprised if they hadn't taken an interest years ago, and decided it was a crank or hoax.

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His post seems observational and meticulous, verging on OCD, morphing SK into a CIA spy to support his conspiracy.
Not picking up on much anger, it was mentioned as a jump off point. Stalker? maybe. Killer? not so much.
 
  • #227
His post seems observational and meticulous, verging on OCD, morphing SK into a CIA spy to support his conspiracy.
Not picking up on much anger, it was mentioned as a jump off point. Stalker? maybe. Killer? not so much.
2 minds about it. The thing is that the money is untouched, so I lean towards a scenario where they're deceased, but no bodies being found. SLaL's explanation is about as realistic as an alien rapture, or a Chinese submarine trip.

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  • #228
2 minds about it. The thing is that the money is untouched, so I lean towards a scenario where they're deceased, but no bodies being found. SLaL's explanation is about as realistic as an alien rapture, or a Chinese submarine trip.

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ITA. Plausible scenario. Check [emoji819]
 
  • #229
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/charles-wendling-obituary?pid=1000000131614527

Charles Wendling
Died August 16, 2009

[...] his longtime companion of 33 years, Joan M. DiAngelis Parrott. He was predeceased by a brother, Clement Gage, and Joan's loving daughter, Tina Parrott.

Ahh Charles was Christina's mother's companion. Here is Christina's obituary. There is no mention of her partner here. Who is the person that visited Nannup with Christina and likely committed suicide?

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/berkshire/obituary.aspx?n=christina-m-parrott&pid=116586223

There is also the Canadian visit. Who did Gary meet over there? Why did they top themselves after Gary went missing?
 
  • #230
Ahh Charles was Christina's mother's companion. Here is Christina's obituary. There is no mention of her partner here. Who is the person that visited Nannup with Christina and likely committed suicide?

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/berkshire/obituary.aspx?n=christina-m-parrott&pid=116586223

There is also the Canadian visit. Who did Gary meet over there? Why did they top themselves after Gary went missing?
Maybe Gary left a farewell message?

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  • #231
'Si' was discussing suicide in his very last correspondence to a confidant who talked him out of it. Maybe that was the last discussion on the gateway forum or that theme preceding his last correspondence. I wonder if WAPOL got the transcripts from the gateway forum. Either way it is good idea to to discuss using nembutal to 1. exact a real suicide, 2. fake a suicide or 3. as cover for foul play. It seems unlikely that any perps would have accessed that information around his last days.

Just on the previous owners of the newcall.org website I can confirm that I have had no response. Is there a general statement amateur sleuths can use to compel those who are harbouring information to come good? Surely it is in the best interests of the public in missing persons cases for them to do so.
 
  • #232
Where are the groups personal effects, if they committed suicide?
Did they sell the computer/s? Donate to charity?
With a removalist?
Locals loot the house?
Did they pack any luggage?
And, where are the bodies?

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  • #233
Interested to know who bought their possessions toward the end. They sold their prize dogs when settling their affairs. Maybe they had a garage sale which would in turn give a buyer prior knowledge of their intentions


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  • #234
Just confirming in the doco that WAPOL state Simon Kadwell's real name is Gary Felton. The camera moves away from the detective when he pronounces his name though. It has also been reported in media with three variations:

Felton
https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/brazilian-search-for-cult-family-ng-ya-159895

Feldman
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/i...nnup-family-disappearance-20110525-1f4dm.html

Feltham
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...y/news-story/838f1baa6a6d069e3033df8b57ce88ee

This slippery bugger also had variations of Kadwell. He used Kaddy in Canada and was also known as Kadwill.

I conducted a search on ancestry.com for a Gary Felton born in UK within +/- 2 years from 1962 and had 13 hits. He may or may not be one of those Gary's. One of those hits was spelt Garry. He spent time around Glastonbury and apparently went to the University of Cambridge according to forums previous listed above.
 
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  • #236
Kadwell's writings were influenced by movies. The Matrix being one of them. His favourite movie of all time is called Powder – a movie the whole family used to watch all the time according to a friend on the doco.

The story is about a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who has the highest intellect in the history of mankind. His brain possesses a powerful electromagnetic charge. Sound familiar? It's made by Disney. Upon the release the writer/director was a convicted paedophile and his victim from the previous work Clownhouse rallied to stop it's release. Critics also slammed the film being an allusion to a child having power over an adult, in reference to Salva's history as a sex offender. Explains the burying of the magnets around the house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_(film)
 
  • #237
From Jean's letter to Simon:

"But then finally, after being back here, far away from your day-to-day influence, and long enough to distill down the whole affair to what it really is -- despite all that you may attempt to claim to the contrary; after also hearing some new facts from Margaret when she called me last Friday, things, for instance, like the fact that the real motive why it was so urgent for you and Deborah to leave Australia was due to the demand from the man who paid for the publishing of Servers of the Divine Plan to get his money back; and the fact that you psychologically manipulated Margaret in using her savings to pay for moving you and all your stuff to England, buy yourself a car and pay for all your expenses there, and all the while being clear with her that if she was not paying for all this, you would no longer pay attention to her - because actually you only wanted her to send her money"


Deborah. Margaret.

I'm guessing Deborah was Simon's partner as of 1999. Chantelle must have met Simon in 1993-1994 in Melbourne based on her dad's recollection.

I am really curious where Margaret is from.

http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/TimeReckon.htm
 
  • #238
Not sure if this has been linked.

https://culteducation.com/group/128...or-a-spiritual-conman-cult-buster-claims.html

And Jean (Earth Rainbow) is a dude. His bio is impressive! I suspect his revelations about Simon really reverberated throughout the community.

http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/jean.htm

Thanks watergirl I presumed Jean wasn't a dude. Are there any questions we need to ask him of his experience with Kadwell? It's spelt out pretty clearly in the feedback and emails. I wonder if he has a theory as to their whereabouts.
 
  • #239
Ahh Charles was Christina's mother's companion. Here is Christina's obituary. There is no mention of her partner here. Who is the person that visited Nannup with Christina and likely committed suicide?

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/berkshire/obituary.aspx?n=christina-m-parrott&pid=116586223

There is also the Canadian visit. Who did Gary meet over there? Why did they top themselves after Gary went missing?
If Charles was her mom's partner for 33 years then they may have had a close father-daughter relationship. Can't rule him out completely.
 
  • #240
From Jean's letter to Simon:

"But then finally, after being back here, far away from your day-to-day influence, and long enough to distill down the whole affair to what it really is -- despite all that you may attempt to claim to the contrary; after also hearing some new facts from Margaret when she called me last Friday, things, for instance, like the fact that the real motive why it was so urgent for you and Deborah to leave Australia was due to the demand from the man who paid for the publishing of Servers of the Divine Plan to get his money back; and the fact that you psychologically manipulated Margaret in using her savings to pay for moving you and all your stuff to England, buy yourself a car and pay for all your expenses there, and all the while being clear with her that if she was not paying for all this, you would no longer pay attention to her - because actually you only wanted her to send her money"


Deborah. Margaret.

I'm guessing Deborah was Simon's partner as of 1999. Chantelle must have met Simon in 1993-1994 in Melbourne based on her dad's recollection.

I am really curious where Margaret is from.

http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/TimeReckon.htm

Did he meet Margaret in Canada?

Ms McDougall’s parents have accused Mr Kadwell of brainwashing and seducing their daughter when, as a 17-year-old, she started babysitting for him and his partner, Deborah, in 1998.

The above extract is when they were living in Melbourne. Deborah was his wife and they have a son too.
 

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