Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #11

[they'll get you]

Does anyone else think the police are now sifting through the Crimestoppers reports?

 

[SouthAussie]

Does anyone else think the police are now sifting through the Crimestoppers reports?

Yes, I think the change in personnel on the case is an indication that fresh eyes are going over everything again. Revisiting information that has been received.

They would have a much clearer picture of what happened by now, after months of investigation. Different things will take a more crucial role in helping them build their case.

Tim Day has experience with cold cases, knows how to delve even further, get the info they need to build a court case.

 

[tiddles24]

I really don't understand why it's taking so long for arrests to be made.
Reminds me of when we took our kids on holidays "Are we there yet?"

However, if no arrests are made soon, the Bro's BR and VR might decide to go on a slow boat to China to try to sell pecan nuts again.

The ant's nest is still rockin' and rollin'. I don't think he's involved in Karen's death, but who knows with this family eh? :silenced:

 

[Moosebegoose]

In this clip shows a 60 kilometre sign (built-up area) and many houses. It's rural, I wonder how many security cameras are installed around those houses or cars with dashcam or is that all too late? How long do the cameras store it?

Of course someone is going to look at an old fat guy squeezing out of a tin can. "What's he up to?" That car is a head turner....what was BR thinking?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...o/news-story/e393203d4553726b8304a9bea605e68a

It does seem stupid when Vasko and Borce both clearly drive vehicles more suitable for carrying things around in it.

I honestly think Vasko became involved after the fact and he is trying his absolute best to protect his brother.

Borce probably thought if he took Karen's body in the SL Roadster, people would think it was Karen driving and therefore, nothing to do with him. How wrong he was.

 

[CalliopeGG]

In this clip shows a 60 kilometre sign (built-up area) and many houses. It's rural, I wonder how many security cameras are installed around those houses or cars with dashcam or is that all too late? How long do the cameras store it?

Of course someone is going to look at an old fat guy squeezing out of a tin can. "What's he up to?" That car is a head turner....what was BR thinking?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...o/news-story/e393203d4553726b8304a9bea605e68a

It's interesting they noted it to the extent of telling someone eh TGY, with no knowledge the murderer was up there at the time. I'm thinking there must be more the police aren't telling us. Surely he must have been acting suspiciously! Did they see him throwing something? What was he up to there on the wrong side of the road? Stopped to change his panties after what he had been up to?? What could the police be looking for?

Cigarette butts as South Aussie suggested
Handbag of gold and purse
Contents of handbag
The mobile or SIM card
Murder weapon
Clothing: Karen's or the murderer's
Something dropped by accident
Nothing specific as Tim Day said
Vest fluff (joking!)

Have I missed anything?

 

[decsimp]

Maybe stopping to vomit? That would look pretty suss to me!

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[sleepinoz]

matey :seeya:

Remember Paul Onions? The Pommy backpacker that Ivan Milat pulled a gun on? He ran for his life, a woman who witnessed it and drove him TO THE POLICE STATION. There were two independent witnesses to the incident!!
IIRC he made another call to the Aus. police from O/S to tell them "That's him"! again he was fobbed off.
IIRC it was years before the police put 2+2 together.

Dont get me wrong I love love our cops but sometimes it appears to be the lack of communications between Crimestoppers to our cops.

I don't think there is a lack of Communication - why would Police be interested in a similar car seen in June? Her car wasn't missing, she went for a 'walk'.

I applaud the officer that remembered someone 'articulating' this fact months later. From the word 'articulate' I would imagine it wasn't reported to CS and had been mentioned to a local cop, who has remembered the fact after Karen was found.

 

[CalliopeGG]

Maybe stopping to vomit? That would look pretty suss to me!

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That would make a lot of sense also!

 

[CalliopeGG]

I don't think there is a lack of Communication - why would Police be interested in a similar car seen in June? Her car wasn't missing, she went for a 'walk'.

I applaud the officer that remembered someone 'articulating' this fact months later. From the word 'articulate' I would imagine it wasn't reported to CS and had been mentioned to a local cop, who has remembered the fact after Karen was found.

The use of the word "articulate" strikes me as something that was commented upon at the time to someone, rather than formally reported and recorded.

 

[tmar]

BBM: Is Borce a smoker? Standing outside the Merc having a smoke? Possibly threw a butt out of the car window? Looking for a butt with possible DNA on it?

Didn't TGY suspect a pack of smokes in Vasko's pocket? Maybe Borce is a smoker, too.

Now, that would go a long way to being a case clincher, I would think. Along with all the other evidence they already have.

SouthAussie, you're right. Any butts (BR, VR, AR etc) add to piles of Circumstantial Evidence.
Why would they be present?
??sight seeing for 'hide away spots' !!! :jail:

 

[sosocurious]

It's interesting they noted it to the extent of telling someone eh TGY, with no knowledge the murderer was up there at the time. I'm thinking there must be more the police aren't telling us. Surely he must have been acting suspiciously! Did they see him throwing something? What was he up to there on the wrong side of the road? Stopped to change his panties after what he had been up to?? What could the police be looking for?

Cigarette butts as South Aussie suggested
Handbag of gold and purse
Contents of handbag
The mobile or SIM card
Murder weapon
Clothing: Karen's or the murderer's
Something dropped by accident
Nothing specific as Tim Day said
Vest fluff (joking!)

Have I missed anything?

I agree. There is more the police are not telling.

He doesn't require glasses for driving anyways.



http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/k...big-clue-for-five-months-20170713-gxadsf.html

 

[tmar]

bbm
Would be garbage collection, would make sense ....

Yep, FromGermany, a 'garbage collector' could easily dispose of important 'gold handbag and contents' plus any sus items.

 

[tmar]

It's interesting they noted it to the extent of telling someone eh TGY, with no knowledge the murderer was up there at the time. I'm thinking there must be more the police aren't telling us. Surely he must have been acting suspiciously! Did they see him throwing something? What was he up to there on the wrong side of the road? Stopped to change his panties after what he had been up to?? What could the police be looking for?

Cigarette butts as South Aussie suggested
Handbag of gold and purse
Contents of handbag
The mobile or SIM card
Murder weapon
Clothing: Karen's or the murderer's
Something dropped by accident
Nothing specific as Tim Day said
Vest fluff (joking!)

Have I missed anything?

Very smart thinking, CalliopeeGG.

 

[tmar]

I agree. There is more the police are not telling.

He doesn't require glasses for driving anyways.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/k...big-clue-for-five-months-20170713-gxadsf.html

Sosocurious, in photo he could easily be mistaken for his brother, with the distinct grey streaks in beard.
Perhaps he lost his glasses outside car, and police will find them!

 

[matey]

I don't think there is a lack of Communication - why would Police be interested in a similar car seen in June? Her car wasn't missing, she went for a 'walk'.

I applaud the officer that remembered someone 'articulating' this fact months later. From the word 'articulate' I would imagine it wasn't reported to CS and had been mentioned to a local cop, who has remembered the fact after Karen was found.

I would like to suggest, if I may, that it might help some of you to see how lack of communication can happen so easily in solving major missing persons and murder cases.

You only need to watch ABC Australian Story titled "The Man Behind The Morcombes" that aired on 20/7/2015 which is still available on their website.

It proves just how many mistakes were made by Police in the case of Daniel Morcombe and how a small town lawyer helped to solve the "biggest criminal investigation in Queensland history".

It just proves that police are only human and can make mistakes like the rest of us!

 

[CalliopeGG]

Very smart thinking, CalliopeeGG.

I'd personally be over the moon if they found something. I bet they won't tell us what it is though if they do. Grrrr! A cigarette butt would be gold, but surely any DNA would have degraded my now, wouldn't it? I've never seen BR smoking and he doesn't have the look of a smoker IMO, whereas VR does.

 

[CalliopeGG]

Sosocurious, in photo he could easily be mistaken for his brother, with the distinct grey streaks in beard.
Perhaps he lost his glasses outside car, and police will find them!

Oh that would be most satisfactory if he left his glasses behind and they confirm they were his. I would be ever so delighted. What super evidence that would be.

He seems to have a bit more of a beard thing happening these days, perhaps in an attempt to detract from his notoriety?? Imagine being BR doing the weekly groceries or nipping down to his local for a quiet one!!

 

[tmar]

My opinion is BR killed Karen at home.
It wasn't meticulously planned but it was no accident either.
It was end of financial year, a stressful time, there was the prospect of her leaving him and the possible promise of life insurance if he got away with it.
I think he killed her, put her in the boot of the Mercedes SLK and drove her body out to Mount Macedon where he placed her in that makeshift grave by himself.
I think he then disposed of her bag/phone/wallet somewhere around those early search areas (Gisborne, Toolern Vale).
I don't think anyone else is involved.
It is the most simple version of events but in my opinion the most likely.

Yes, Oona. KR, present or not, is associated with money, which is so important to BR.
I agree with your opinion being most likely, and the circumstances you give.

 

[CalliopeGG]

Yes, Oona. KR, present or not, is associated with money, which is so important to BR.
I agree with your opinion being most likely, and the circumstances you give.

Me three. I'm leaning toward this theory also now.

 

[sosocurious]

ACA
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/national/new-witness-in-ristevski-murder-case/ar-BBEm55T