Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #3

[Bohemian]

Some questions that to me remain unanswered , upon reflection.

1. Was Karen At Work on the 28th and if so what time did she leave?
2. Was Sarah present 28th-29th prior to 10am?
3. Unable to ascertain whether all CCTV or Moblie ph pings have been examined, ruled out.
4. Have forensics been done on home phone, vehicles , relatives?
5. Has The Dept of Defence (behind the househould) site been thoroughly searched.

Everyone looks from a different viewpont,.
I read what i see from the TV appeal.

1. Was Karen At Work on the 28th and if so what time did she leave? IDK.
2. Was Sarah present 28th-29th prior to 10am? IDK.
3. Unable to ascertain whether all CCTV or Moblie ph pings have been examined, ruled out. IDK.
4. Have forensics been done on home phone, vehicles , relatives? The vehicles and home were searched and nothing was found IIRC. The others IDK.
5. Has The Dept of Defence (behind the househould) site been thoroughly searched. Police said they were searching 60 hectares in one interview I watched. Whether that included the Dept of Defence site, IDK.

So in conclusion, to paraphrase Socrates 'As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.'

 

[Hbayne]

I can believe in the cool-down walk all right. It doesn't bother me that she didn't take the car after the argument Borce says they had. But if the purpose was to move the cash away from AR, it would be silly to go on foot.

In the heat of the moment though anything is possible. We can't discount anything based on how we might react, maybe she had been drinking, even a wine or two would be reason enough not to drive.

 

[Bohemian]

I can believe in the cool-down walk all right. It doesn't bother me that she didn't take the car after the argument Borce says they had. But if the purpose was to move the cash away from AR, it would be silly to go on foot.

Karen may have used her time upstairs before she left to call someone she thought she could trust to help her with her financial problems and AR's threat to harm himself/confront her with the 'family secret'; especially if Borce was a gentle man. Then, went to meet them and left in their car?

 

[emirates1957]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Emirates!!!!! The reason why I asked you to take note of how her (KR's) employees were dressed is because I honestly did not believe she would go to work dressed they way she was when she disappeared. She came across as a very professional business woman to me and one that would dress alot smarter when going to work in her Boutique. Again, thank you!

You are more than welcome. And when I say this hmm middle aged european lady was dressed/groomed to the 9's. After being in the shop for nearly 5 minutes (being the only customer) - she never asked once whether she could assist.

 

[Bohemian]

In the heat of the moment though anything is possible. We can't discount anything based on how we might react, maybe she had been drinking, even a wine or two would be reason enough not to drive.

Drinking before 10am? Mon Dieu!

 

[SouthAussie]

So is AR now living at Borce and Karen's house ? Seems to think he has taken it over .

WTF?
I'm totally bewildered now. Why, after all the venom that's been sprayed.
Um, is there (emotional) blackmail happening now?

I wonder who the detective was visiting there in the footage we saw yesterday, where the detective said they were making great progress.

 

[Gigi30]

She meant the shopping centers and they really aren't though ..

Still don't understand his point?

& theres been a general sense on this thread of how a woman from Avondale could afford designer labels. I thinks that's very offensive. Moo.

 

[Hbayne]

Drinking before 10am? Mon Dieu!

In my post I was referring to the night before

 

[Hbayne]

Still don't understand his point?

& theres been a general sense on this thread of how a woman from Avondale could afford designer labels. I thinks that's very offensive. Moo.

The reference was made to the location of her stores and her wanting to build a celebrity clientele.

 

[SouthAussie]

Still don't understand his point?

& theres been a general sense on this thread of how a woman from Avondale could afford designer labels. I thinks that's very offensive. Moo.

Another point was that we (I) were trying to work out how much financial stress the family was still under. Why sales were so bad that one store closed. And one theory was that her clothing prices could have been too high for a typical suburban shopping mall. They were not designer labels the average person, or perhaps many people, would recognise.

I do not believe anyone is saying that a person from Avondale could not afford designer labels. It was questioned how Karen could afford designer labels, given their apparent financial position, until we were told that there was a designer outlet store in the vicinity.

 

[Hbayne]

Still don't understand his point?

& theres been a general sense on this thread of how a woman from Avondale could afford designer labels. I thinks that's very offensive. Moo.

The reference was made to the location of her stores and her wanting to build a celebrity clientele.

 

[Makara]

Still don't understand his point?

& theres been a general sense on this thread of how a woman from Avondale could afford designer labels. I thinks that's very offensive. Moo.

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[Bohemian]

I wonder who the detective was visiting there in the footage we saw yesterday, where the detective said they were making great progress.

I waa just thinking that - while I was in the bath :rubberducky:

Missing Persons? Homicide? Major Crimes?

 

[ozazure]

Back to prior pages where people were discussing AR's facebook allegations vs the police statement ones ... we need to keep in mind The Australian was reporting on the police statement which seems pretty clearly written by a police officer. I would bet they would have cautioned him on committing to them in his statement and offered up the solution ... just as "had a genuine interest in my welfare" is not in his vocabulary, neither is a "situation developed between myself and Karen which I’d rather not fully detail’. I bet he spilt his guts in exactly the same way he does on FB and they tidied it up and had him sign it.

Personally I think this VR theme is a very big reach ... people don't kill their SIL because of a failed business over a decade ago and the dynamics of someone else's marriage, to me this scenario comes way after family violence, suicide, running away, a random attack ...

 

[Bohemian]

In my post I was referring to the night before

:toastred: Cheers Hb.

 

[ozazure]

Still don't understand his point?

& theres been a general sense on this thread of how a woman from Avondale could afford designer labels. I thinks that's very offensive. Moo.

Seriously, not affording designer labels is hardly a slur. You won't see most women in Avondale Heights wearing those labels, and who cares? I love this area, not having a go.

It's an anomaly that they are decked out in that stuff and different people read into it differently - some people have said she is into fashion and might buy it discounted, which is highly likely. I personally think when you can't pay your rent, you don't buy it at even 75% off because it still costs $100 and you need to fulfil your financial commitments before you #treatyoself. You can make do with what you have or buy a less expensive item.

 

[insanity]

Out of interest have there been many cases of accidental death by, say a child, that's been covered up by adult family members??

 

[emirates1957]

Being lazy sitting back with a little glass of wine. Has it been confirmed that AR is living with BR ???? As mentioned up thread.

 

[Hbayne]

The point I was trying to make about store locations was based on what someone said up thread about Karen wanting to build a celebrity clientele. With all of the amazing shops in Melbourne I just don't believe broad meadows or Taylor's lakes is somewhere that you would scout as a shopping (fashion) destination, hence the business failure.

 

[ozazure]

In AR's latest interview (PR stunt) he said he would reveal more to the police in a month.

"Yeah, no worries mate, we'll just sit here and twiddle our thumbs til you're good and ready."

The police don't work like that.

I don't read it like that at all. This is the quote

He would not comment further on this when approached at his home in Melbourne’s semirural Diggers Rest yesterday. But he confirmed he would make a more detailed statement to the police within a month.

TA: Anthony, do you want to make a comment about your police statement?
AR: No.
TA: *scummy media questions*
AR: no comment
TA: Are you still in contact with the police?
AR: I've got another interview with them later in August
*slams door*

I don't think he's pulling any puppet strings.