Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #3

[Mrs G Norris]

Let's face it guys, the celebrity involved is a bit of a desperado .. I'm not impressed with either connection.

 

[Melbourne Lass]

Respectfully snipped by me, this stood out to me...what if this is all one big publicity stunt??? Maybe all publicity is good publicity...JMO
At first I thought for sure it was her husband in a GBC type incident...then the stepson throws his hat into the ring with an elaborate as yet unproven scandal, I would have thought after 6 weeks, some new developments would have come to light...the longer it gets, the more I believe this was planned by her...again JMO

I considered this as a possibility. More like coming up with her disappearance as a way to increase their profits. But it sounds sooo far-fetched. Not to mention, the ones left behind have to be pretty good actors (if they're in on it), or would be extremely angry if they found out. You've got to have pretty big kahoonas to try and pull something off like that. If the police found out, they would be charged.

 

[Makara]

I hope Karen is alive and well but in saying that if she is she is going to have a big fat bill for all the resources ect that have gone into this

It's not illegal to disappear yourself. What is illegal is the fraud that anyone choosing to do so will inevitably commit to keep up the scam. If anyone is aiding and abetting that person they can also be charged.

 

[Makara]

Let's face it guys, the celebrity involved is a bit of a desperado .. I'm not impressed with either connection.

I'm wondering if there is a romantic connection.

 

[Melbourne Lass]

Exactly, give me chadstone any day . What celeb would even thing of schlepping out the these suburbs ? To all that aren't familiar with Melbourne, unless your a local you would not go there.

Uggh...Chaddy!!! No thanks...way too big

Seriously though...I get your point. Good old Broady...it's not that bad.

 

[ozazure]

I don't want to come across as snobby but broad meadows and Taylor's lakes are not exactly prime shopping spots. Particularly broad meadows ! More likely a place to go and buy your moccasins. The whole media spin on them living the life in there million dollar mansion, it's not an affluent area at all, McMansions are a dime a dozen in that area

I know this wasn't to me, but I'm chiming in anyway LOL This is also part of what forms an impression in my mind. I am very familiar with all these areas, I have grown up in the area and have been to both shopping centres countless times, and I have always known people living in Avondale Heights. I will say though that I have never driven through that pocket of Avondale Heights and had no idea about the views or the scale of the homes until I went for a little looksee recently. So I had taken the commentary about the house as hyperbole because house prices are super crazy but no, it does actually look pretty swishy compared to what's around it.

But the fact is, if you live in the posh part of Avondale Heights ... you still live in Avondale Heights. You are living among people whose parents were in all likelihood blue collar workers, if the people themselves are not now. It ain't even Moonee Ponds poshness, forget about the leafy greef eastern suburbs. If you cannot pay your shop rent but are buying yourself and your daughter shoes and bags and purses that cost several hundreds of dollars, there is some kind of disconnect there, in general the people around you are not wearing that stuff, not in Avondale Heights, not at Watergardens and certainly not in Broadmeadows.

 

[Melbourne Lass]

Who walks away from a heated argument?

The quietly spoken one or the go-getter?

Who fears the neighbours might hear, the quietly spoken one or the aggressor who stands their ground?

I'm thinking the quieter personality would walk away to keep the peace.
Just some thoughts.

Good point, TGY.

I'm not sure if I believe the explanation by BR of what went on prior to her disappearance (ie. their argument about finances). He made a point of stating that "she always walks back through the door" "a few hours" after their arguments. If what he said is true, then where would she go for a few hours? That's a helluva long walk.

 

[Puggle]

Well I am not stating it as a certainty, of all the cases I follow along I feel like this is the one where all the possibilities are still on the table. If she is the worst of what's been suggested I am still invested in her safe return, no one deserves to meet a violent end

I Know you are.....

and sorry you've had that experience ...or witnessed that ugly side of humans.

I remember the likes of that Belle Gibson girl.... made my blood boil.

 

[SouthAussie]

Did the police check the area with cadaver dogs to see which way Karen went or for any traces of her DNA?
Those doggies could show where her DNA stopped (got into a car) dragged towards the river or simply where she walked.

I was wondering about cadaver dogs the other day. I looked through a whole bunch of 'searching for Karen' articles. Could not see any reference to dogs or pics of any. Just police and SES.
I may have missed something. :dunno:
But it did make me wonder why they had not brought the dogs to search.

 

[Makara]

A question for the locals. Is the tavern near the bridge an easy walk from Karen's place and if so, how long would it take?

 

[Puggle]

Uggh...Chaddy!!! No thanks...way too big

Seriously though...I get your point. Good old Broady...it's not that bad.

No its not ....lol...my hubby is a Broady Boy.... Eddy McGuire is a broady boy.....and I actually think I said no the Eric Bana when he asked if we could "go together" when I was 14....

And I love mockies.....

 

[Makara]

I know this wasn't to me, but I'm chiming in anyway LOL This is also part of what forms an impression in my mind. I am very familiar with all these areas, I have grown up in the area and have been to both shopping centres countless times, and I have always known people living in Avondale Heights. I will say though that I have never driven through that pocket of Avondale Heights and had no idea about the views or the scale of the homes until I went for a little looksee recently. So I had taken the commentary about the house as hyperbole because house prices are super crazy but no, it does actually look pretty swishy compared to what's around it.

But the fact is, if you live in the posh part of Avondale Heights ... you still live in Avondale Heights. You are living among people whose parents were in all likelihood blue collar workers, if the people themselves are not now. It ain't even Moonee Ponds poshness, forget about the leafy greef eastern suburbs. If you cannot pay your shop rent but are buying yourself and your daughter shoes and bags and purses that cost several hundreds of dollars, there is some kind of disconnect there, in general the people around you are not wearing that stuff, not in Avondale Heights, not at Watergardens and certainly not in Broadmeadows.

I get what you're saying Ozazure but perhaps Karen didn't pay full retail price for the shoes, bags etc. She worked in the rag trade and could have just as easily bought those things wholesale.

 

[SouthAussie]

A question for the locals. Is the tavern near the bridge an easy walk from Karen's place and if so, how long would it take?

Just jumping off your post, Makara.
I was also wondering what the tavern's hours of business are. And are they a 'pokies' venue?
Is anyone able to supply the name of the tavern, and I can look for the info myself. :blush:


ETA: No worries, found it. It is called Anglers Tavern

Patrons at the nearby Anglers Tavern watched as a police vessel ....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...i/news-story/4d1204ab2c7ec8b71d18597b8da513c0

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

Just jumping off your post, Makara.
I was also wondering what the tavern's hours of business are. And are they a 'pokies' venue?
Is anyone able to supply the name of the tavern, and I can look for the info myself. :blush:

The Anglers Tavern? It's not super close but I suppose you could walk. I think there are pokies.

http://www.anglers-tavern.com.au


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[Puggle]

A question for the locals. Is the tavern near the bridge an easy walk from Karen's place and if so, how long would it take?

It would be a nice easy walk on flat trail after she got down the enbankment at the back of her house...

Ummm 40 minutes tops at a guess.....Ive never actually walked from hers to there....so yeah..guesstamation..

 

[Makara]

It would be a nice easy walk on flat trail after she got down the enbankment at the back of her house...

Ummm 40 minutes tops at a guess.....Ive never actually walked from hers to there....so yeah..guesstamation..

Thanks Puggle. Is there a front way, i.e. other than walking along the bank of the river. If say for example Karen left her house by the garage at the front of the house, is it possible to walk to the tavern. Perhaps just to sit down and cool off for a while or even to meet someone there?

 

[Unit45]

Still interested in the phone pings, CCTV, or communication via landlines.

Im supposing the authorities have checked this in reference to other family members not living at the address.

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

Thanks Puggle. Is there a front way, i.e. other than walking along the bank of the river. If say for example Karen left her house by the garage at the front of the house, is it possible to walk to the tavern. Perhaps just to sit down and cool off for a while or even to meet someone there?

Yep. She could walk onto the main road and down past the back of Highpoint (Raleigh Rd) - it would take 30-40mins


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[Puggle]

I was wondering about cadaver dogs the other day. I looked through a whole bunch of 'searching for Karen' articles. Could not see any reference to dogs or pics of any. Just police and SES.
I may have missed something. :dunno:
But it did make me wonder why they had not brought the dogs to search.

I think I asked about this in the last thread......
someone replied...opps...can't remember what they said. ....

but it was in discussion about "the troops have arrived" meaning the mounted horses. ...... maybe whoever responded to me will remember...

I think..and I say that loosely. ..that dogs had been called in....but best wait for who ever responded to me to see this and confirm.

 

[Hbayne]

I was wondering about the demographic of the shop locations, so I appreciate you stating this opinion.
Broadmeadows shop is closed now, so only Taylor's Lake remains open (I think).
Seems as though shaky business decisions may have been made for high-end shops in more middle class locales? .. possibly to keep shop rental expenses low.

These locations are not middle class, they are purpose built shopping centres that service the local suburbs.