Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #4

[Oona]

Is the barmah forest area ruled out now ? Sorry for my ignorance.

Yes, according to this news article.
http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...i/news-story/976262c5fa71c8b0854182b84854f150

 

[they'll get you]

Totally agree TGY.

Example:
Sabrina Bremer, a 34-year-old woman from the Logan area in South East Queensland.

I doubt Karen would be left so obviously as Sabrina but slightly off the road into the bush.

Or Stephanie Scott was found just off a dirt road & Carly McBride's skeletal remains were discovered in some bushland nearly two years after she disappeared.

All women were found so close to the roadway.

 

[Makara]

Example:
Sabrina Bremer, a 34-year-old woman from the Logan area in South East Queensland.

I doubt Karen would be left so obviously as Sabrina but slightly off the road into the bush.

Yep, anything is possible as this stage and Sabrina's case is absolutely shocking!

 

[Bohemian]

Tiddles24's hasn't given a link.... not saying it isn't true..... but the flyover image of the dam you had or they showed on the news isnt confirmed as the one ...if any..that has been searched.

Thats what Im looking for...the confirmation of any dam in the Toolern Vale area as having been searched...

Now a turn around of thinking...... if its AR then water disposal is possible, but my gut says if BR is/has been involved in a coverup aand assisted in disposal..... then no water burial. .only an opinion...lol...nothing to back that up...

You'll have to ask tiddles for her link, Puggs. I was simply looking for likely sites, close to Digger's Rest and using back roads from there (where BR's phone last pinged) to Gisborne (where Karen's phone last pinged), rather than the Calder. The police have searched two waterways; the Maribyrnong and Murray AFAIK.

 

[Puggle]

I'm also wondering if the intention was for BR to give Karen a lift to work that morning. An argument ensued on the way and he made a detour and things turned ugly. IMO AR has nothing to do with Karen's disappearance. He decided to crawl out from under his rock of self pity after MSM published that she was missing. He is relishing in the limelight but IMO he doesn't deserve the time that has been devoted to him on this thread or in MSM.

Yeah completely possible...

AR certainly adds a whole new demension to the classic murder by domestic partner though...... if he didnt exist I suppose it would appear almost a slam dunk...

But here he is for all to see....

Police identified a main search area right on his backdoor step..... that seems a little to coincidental for me to not be related.

 

[Puggle]

You'll have yo ask tiddles for her link, Puggs. I was dimply looking for likely sites, close to Digger's Rest and using back roads ftom there (where BR's phone last pinged) to Gisborne (where Karen's phone last pinged), rather than the Calder. The police have searched two waterways; the Maribyrnong and Murray AFAIK.

??? Murray....... was that the up Norht West search, holiday home area? ....

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

??? Murray....... was that the up Norht West search, holiday home area? ....

Yes, it was the Barmah National Park but that has been ruled out apparently - I guess due to the phone pings.


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[sleepinoz]

A dam in Toolern Vale was searched according to 7 News - Is this the one your after?

https://www.facebook.com/7NewsMelbourne/videos/10154541765569301/

 

[moreinfo]

I'm sure authorities would have checked by now if the Mercedes travelling had received any infringement notices on 28 /29 June that day ,could have possibly been speeding along Calder freeway towards its destination/passed red light cameras and possibly been snapped by fixed cameras along the way. The driver would be in a panic to try and dispose the body and get home asap and checking his speed would be the last thing on his mind i would think.

 

[sayswho]

Are there any speed cameras, red light cameras or point to point cameras on that stretch of the Calder?

None. The only one on melton hwy is a red light camera, this is at the intersection before watergardens (BB)

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[wewillgetyou]

I can't help thinking that GBC will be sitting in his cell laughing ( and feeling smug ) at how stupid BR was not taking care of the phones.

 

[Puggle]

A dam in Toolern Vale was searched according to 7 News - Is this the one your after?

https://www.facebook.com/7NewsMelbourne/videos/10154541765569301/

Yep that was the exact screen grab I was after. ..... dang channel 7 for their pathetic graphics.... they have made it hard to pinpoint the exact location. Im a visual person.......at least ghey show enough distinguishable areas.... I might be able to locate a small 1km radius.

Grrr just give us the exact spot.

ETA: best visual on this grab...... Bo' s screen grab of the dam she had is the best placed dam .....

it fits with what I can see also from the channel 7 screengrab.

But rather than the dam...there is a dry creek crossing on the main road (Diggers Rest-Coimadai Road) possibly a drain on the main road in that exact location (google earth street view) that IMO would seem more likely a place to conceal something, rather than entering private property.

 

[Bohemian]

New clues in search for missing Melbourne mother Karen Ristevski
Benjamin Millar, Tammy Mills
The Age
August 27 2016

'Crucial new clues have reportedly emerged in the case of missing Melbourne mother Karen Ristevski, as police investigate mobile phone data that could shed light on her movements and those of her husband on the day she disappeared.

Ms Ristevski, 47, was last seen leaving her Avondale Heights home at 10am on June 29.'

'Police are now reportedly combing mobile phone data after it was revealed both their phones were detected by transmitter towers located on the Calder Highway later that day.

News Corp Australia has reported Ms Ristevski's mobile phone was detected in the vicinity of Gisborne, about 40km north-east of her Avondale Heights home.

Mr Ristevski's mobile phone was detected in nearby Diggers Rest on the same day. His phone was also reportedly switched off for two hours.'

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/n...e-mother-karen-ristevski-20160826-gr2hk0.html

 

[Puggle]

Thanks for that link Makara of the mobile towers.... I haven't seen that one before, and it supplies alot of information.

One for bookmarking for future reference for sure.

Im thinking if police have the ping info then they have the call history also....

Hopefully this means its not going to be too long before an arrest will be made.

 

[JLZ]

Where is Karen?

I will find this woman.

I see you're in Melbourne, Unit, so perhaps you'd have a better idea than some of us. Where do you think the police should be looking?

 

[moreinfo]

I'm sure authorities would have checked by now if the Mercedes travelling had received any infringement notices on 28 /29 June that day ,could have possibly been speeding along Calder freeway towards its destination/passed red light cameras and possibly been snapped by fixed cameras along the way. The driver would be in a panic to try and dispose the body and get home asap and checking his speed would be the last thing on his mind i would think.

 

[Puggle]

I think we all need to take a Bex and have a little lie down. Night bub

Ahh lordy...a bex...showing your age there Bo...

Night Bo

 

[Coldpizza]

This thread is about Karen, not each other.

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Thank you

 

[Makara]

Evil stranger could have taken Karen Ristevski, says husband

Andrew Jefferson, Herald Sun
August 28, 2016 11:13pm

THE family of missing Melbourne woman Karen Ristevski believe she may have fallen victim to a random stranger abduction.

It is understood that husband Borce has told family members that the 47-year-old could have been snatched by an evil predator.

It can also be revealed that Mrs Ristevski was discussing borrowing money from her father to pay an outstanding debt in the days before she vanished on June 29.

In other developments, a shovel found at the $1.1 million Avondale Heights Ristevski family home has undergone forensic testing.

And detectives searching for the missing mum in Melbourne’s northwest have examined CCTV cameras from the Toolern Vale General Store and taken footage from 60 cameras at two BP service stations at Calder Park.

Police have also combed the same road where murdered Irish woman Jill Meagher was found. Residents of Black Hill Rd, where Ms Meagher’s body was found buried in a shallow grave in September 2012, say police on trail bikes were spotted scouring the 10km road linking Diggers Rest to Gisborne South.

Mr Ristevski, 52, told police he was driving his wife’s 2004 Mercedes-Benz to a garage to fix a faulty fuel gauge before the fault corrected itself and he returned home.

Mobile phone data indicated that Mr Ristevski’s phone was switched off for 2½ hours on the day she vanished.

Mr Ristevski is understood to have told police to direct all further inquiries over his wife’s disappearance to his solicitors, Stary Norton Halphen.

Read full article here.

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BBM: Weren't we told by a family member that Karen's father was deceased?

 

[moreinfo]

Your correct I don't think Karen's family has refuted AR's claims re sexual allegations as I am sure overall they feel that they are outlandish & not worthy of a response &
doubt any of them would have remotely considered these to be in anyway a possible motive for her to leave her home & family.


But after reading how some people feel that the allegations may have some foundation I am refuting the claims based soley on my feelings on the matter.


I am a cousin of Karen's (Karen's mother and my father were brother & sister) and while I didn't know Karen closely as when your dad has 8 siblings you can imagine the total
number of cousins so it's hard to know all of them that well. I was close to her mother when I was young as there was only 18 months in age difference between her and my dad
and she used to look after me as a child (babysitting etc). When my aunty (Karen's mums sister) was diagnosed with a life threatening disease a few years back Karen's mother
flew home to NZ to nurse her and be there with her for 6 weeks giving her total support and we reconnected during this time. She then returned back a few months later and spent
a number of weeks with her sister again.


Karen was born in the same city as me so as a child I did see them a bit but when they moved to Melbourne we lost touch & only kept in touch a couple of times on Facebook.
Karen's mother & father were the old school, respect and treat people how you would want to be treated (that's what her dad used to say to me) so in respect of Karen but more
so to her late mother & father (three people who obviously can't disclaim the allegations) I am refuting them not totally as I can't but 99.9% because I know the family values
and kindness and consideration that Karen's parents passed onto their children wouldn't allow this to happen.


AR said "while telling the Herald Sun he was provided a comfortable home to live in" & his cousin said " Karen and Borce have both given him cars, which he’s totally destroyed.
Money, accommodation". That's nothing more than I would have expected resulting from Karen's upbringing & out of respect to her husband I truly doubt she would have even considered
thinking about the allegations let alone acting them out.


I miss Karen's mother but are thankful she along with my uncle didn't have to live having to go through this all but more so they didn't have to endure what I consider to be total
lies and fabrications regarding the morale behaviour of a daughter who they brought up to be the complete opposite of in allegations of this type.

Evil stranger could have taken Karen Ristevski, says husband

Andrew Jefferson, Herald Sun
August 28, 2016 11:13pm

THE family of missing Melbourne woman Karen Ristevski believe she may have fallen victim to a random stranger abduction.

It is understood that husband Borce has told family members that the 47-year-old could have been snatched by an evil predator.

It can also be revealed that Mrs Ristevski was discussing borrowing money from her father to pay an outstanding debt in the days before she vanished on June 29.

In other developments, a shovel found at the $1.1 million Avondale Heights Ristevski family home has undergone forensic testing.

And detectives searching for the missing mum in Melbourne’s northwest have examined CCTV cameras from the Toolern Vale General Store and taken footage from 60 cameras at two BP service stations at Calder Park.

Police have also combed the same road where murdered Irish woman Jill Meagher was found. Residents of Black Hill Rd, where Ms Meagher’s body was found buried in a shallow grave in September 2012, say police on trail bikes were spotted scouring the 10km road linking Diggers Rest to Gisborne South.

Mr Ristevski, 52, told police he was driving his wife’s 2004 Mercedes-Benz to a garage to fix a faulty fuel gauge before the fault corrected itself and he returned home.

Mobile phone data indicated that Mr Ristevski’s phone was switched off for 2½ hours on the day she vanished.

Mr Ristevski is understood to have told police to direct all further inquiries over his wife’s disappearance to his solicitors, Stary Norton Halphen.

Read full article here.

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BBM: Weren't we told by a family member that Karen's father was deceased?

Yes both her parents are deceased according to this post from her cousin Steve.