Australia Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #2

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k-mac said:
wouldn't be a stretch though preparing for TWO inquests to check all governing bodies for documents like say said ombudsman's office??
surely an investigation would have the resources to look at all such places???:confused:
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I agree with you wholeheartedly.

But remember Hedley, via Sue Strath, had to contact the office of the Ombudsman numerous times and over a sustained period of time before that office managed to find Sue's letter from years and years previous. I think from memory the first response Sue received was that they purge documents after a certain number of years and it was initially thought Sue's letter had gone the way of the shredder.

I would have thought subpoenoring the Dawson's to appear at the inquests - assuming that power was at the disposal of the coroner - a much higher priority than scouring government departments for a needle in a haystack they didn't even know existed.
 
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k-mac said:
wouldn't be a stretch though preparing for TWO inquests to check all governing bodies for documents like say said ombudsman's office??
surely an investigation would have the resources to look at all such places???:confused:
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The Ombudsman's office only investigates if there is a complaint from the public, which there was in this case. Unless there was information on the police file that the Ombudsman's office had been contacted they wouldn't know to look.

They rely on the information from the police who have given their information to the coroner as the police have investigated fully?!
 
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Does anyone remember when Sue Strath got her copy of CD's statement which she sent to the Ombudsman? Wondering if we can pin down when the contents of the file went missing. What bothers me isn't that the prosecution failed to find the copy at the Ombudsman, but that the original police documents were removed or destroyed. Not just the statement--who knows what else went missing?
 
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DRT said:
The Ombudsman's office only investigates if there is a complaint from the public, which there was in this case. Unless there was information on the police file that the Ombudsman's office had been contacted they wouldn't know to look.

They rely on the information from the police who have given their information to the coroner as they have investigated fully?!
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Agreed, and remember too that when the police were contacted by the office of the Ombudsman as a result of Sue Strath's letter they gave it very short shift indeed. Nothing to see here.
 
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JLZ said:
Does anyone remember when Sue Strath got her copy of CD's statement which she sent to the Ombudsman? Wondering if we can pin down when the contents of the file went missing. What bothers me isn't that the prosecution failed to find the copy at the Ombudsman, but that the original police documents were removed or destroyed. Not just the statement--who knows what else went missing?
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As all The Australian web pages seem to be paywalled now that might involve re-listening to an early one of Hedley's episodes.
 
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Cliff Hardy said:
I would believe a taxidriver before I would believe Who.
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I posted it before reading fully. It was written in anticipation of his release.
 
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Cliff Hardy said:
I agree with you wholeheartedly.

But remember Hedley, via Sue Strath, had to contact the office of the Ombudsman numerous times and over a sustained period of time before that office managed to find Sue's letter from years and years previous. I think from memory the first response Sue received was that they purge documents after a certain number of years and it was initially thought Sue's letter had gone the way of the shredder.

I would have thought subpoenoring the Dawson's to appear at the inquests - assuming that power was at the disposal of the coroner - a much higher priority than scouring government departments for a needle in a haystack they didn't even know existed.
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yeah I know cliff what your saying and agree
however they had to have known there was an original statement from chris and it was missing??????

nobody chased it up and went looking for it.
if a reporter can track it down why the hell couldn't 4 separate investigative operations . ( 2 inquests 2 strikeforces)


had any of them been investigating they would have interviewed and chased up the witnesses and then found as Hedley had a complaint of sues' to the umbudsman and subsequently all the lost documents on sues (lyns) file.
it wasn't that hard or hidden :mad:
 
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DRT said:
I posted it before reading fully. It was written in anticipation of his release.
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The article's been edited since you posted it. I suspect it was released prematurely by mistake, and has been touched up to look a little more tentative.
 
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JLZ said:
The article's been edited since you posted it. I suspect it was released prematurely by mistake, and has been touched up to look a little more tentative.
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Some of these newsagencies and wannabe reporters load stories in advance and either post them in anticipation or inadvertently. Often they are then altered or retracted depending on the actual outcome. It's all about that need to be first with the news.
 
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Cliff Hardy said:
The police completely botched the case. No argument there, and that Chris Dawson's statement conveniently disappeared from the file, along with it seems a whole lot of other stuff, is a disgrace worthy of investigation. But the unearthing of a copy of Chris Dawson's statement years later bordered on pure fluke.

The only reason a copy still existed was because the Ombudsman's department had kept a copy of a letter sent to them years and years earlier by Sue Srath - that included a copy of the statement - and the only reason it was retrieved is because Hedley got a sniff of it and doggedly had Sue pursue it with the Ombudsman's office.
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The thing is ... the coroner(s) is supposed to get a copy of the police case file and evidence prior to holding an inquest. They review it, prior to the inquest(s) to see which witnesses they want to call, what questions they want to ask, etc etc.

So, where are these police records within the coronial files from the two inquests? Are they still sitting there waiting to be tapped for the impending trial?

Perhaps the police file is missing, and it should not be ... and it is significant news that it is missing. But the copies of the police documents may still available via the coroner's office.
 
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SouthAussie said:
The thing is ... the coroner(s) is supposed to get a copy of the police case file and evidence prior to holding an inquest. They review it, prior to the inquest(s) to see which witnesses they want to call, what questions they want to ask, etc etc.

So, where are these police records within the coronial files from the two inquests? Are they still sitting there waiting to be tapped for the impending trial?

Perhaps the police file is missing, and it should not be ... and it is significant news that it is missing. But the copies of the police documents may still available via the coroner's office.
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Hedley's take on it was that when Damien Loone took over the case there was virtually nothing in the Chris Dawson file and that most of what would have been the contents - including Chris Dawson's statement - had gone mysteriously missing.

Correctly me if I am wrong anyone, but I believe that was prior to the first inquest.
 
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Cliff Hardy said:
Hedley's take on it was that when Damien Loone took over the case there was virtually nothing in the Chris Dawson file and that most of what would have been the contents - including Chris Dawson's statement - had gone mysteriously missing.

Correctly me if I am wrong anyone, but I believe that was prior to the first inquest.
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Thanks. Yes, you are correct. The (previous) police file has been missing for over 20 years. So the coroner(s) may never have seen it prior to the inquests. Could explain why Chris Dawson was never subpoenaed to give testimony at the inquests. How convenient.


Murder suspect Chris Dawson’s lies and omissions to police about his missing wife, Lyn, have been laid bare in a hand-written statement from a file that had been lost for more than 20 years, prior to the inquests.
Nocookies
Long-lost document exposes Dawson lies
The Australian - June 15, 2018
 
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CD said at one time Lyn had $500 cash and another that she had clothes that she was going to exchange. Was it ever said what Lyn was wearing when he claims he dropped her at the bus stop?
 
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