Still Missing Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #3

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Link to all the The Teacher's Trial Episodes so far.

 
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Maybe the ongoing abuse of Lyn was in part a definite strategy to make her leave. I saw something very similar between a married couple that I knew many years ago. (and the plan succeeded).

You could be right, but if she left due to abuse, he could lose the house, lose custody of his daughters, have legal fees to pay, have years of support payments ahead of him, and who knows how long it would take before a divorce was settled. But if she went missing, then these things wouldn't be problems.
 
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Link to all the The Teacher's Trial Episodes so far.

At the 28.30 minute mark of Podcast 6, CD‘s sister Lyn, speaks about their brother Gary….”Gary (laughs)…?????“ Can anyone decipher what was said please?

Brother Gary has certainly remained out of the limelight with this mystery.
 
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At the 28.30 minute mark of Podcast 6, CD‘s sister Lyn, speaks about their brother Gary….”Gary (laughs)…?????“ Can anyone decipher what was said please?

Brother Gary has certainly remained out of the limelight with this mystery.

I'm not sure it's discernible, but might it be something like, "Gary would say, 'Who's Lynette'?".

I suspect there is a family estrangement with Gary.
 
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I believe Silkman.
Providing he stands to make exactly zero money for being a witness...
.... then yeah, i think he probably is telling the truth.
.... any hint of a 60 minutes exclusive exposé or similar.... nup.
 
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I believe Silkman.

Silkman said a few things that I tend to believe, but then I find myself wondering if I am cherry-picking what I choose to believe and what he said that I don't believe. If there is no financial or any other gain for Silkman to speak out, then what he says regarding CD asking for help to murder his wife seems believable to me. But do I also believe Silkman when he said that no more was ever said about it? Well, no, I suspect that might not be true and that he might be covering his @ss.

So is Silkman telling the truth or not. Perhaps sometimes yes, and sometimes no. Is Silkman a credible witness? Maybe, sorta, sometimes? That's probably not good enough. I am keen to find out what the judge thinks. Is there enough evidence without Silkman's testimony?
 
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I'm not sure it's discernible, but might it be something like, "Gary would say, 'Who's Lynette'?".

I suspect there is a family estrangement with Gary.
Brother GREG SIMMS , the Was NO GARY I know of , was a NSW cop all this time LD was missing. IN NSW if you make waves you will get sent to some dusty station in Lithgow or worse. I'd say he was in basically " do nothing to raise the case with my name on it " mode all through these years and the family knows it.
 
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Brother GREG SIMMS , the Was NO GARY I know of , was a NSW cop all this time LD was missing. IN NSW if you make waves you will get sent to some dusty station in Lithgow or worse. I'd say he was in basically " do nothing to raise the case with my name on it " mode all through these years and the family knows it.
This is a Dawson not a Simms. The agreed facts of the case are that there are 4 Dawson children when there are actually 5. Gary is younger than Lynnette (Hutcheons nee Dawson) and older than Peter. I expect he doesn't have any relevant information to the case or doesn't want to be involved.
 
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I think it's behind a paywall.
It's not behind a paywall at least for me. The article is about the hospital Jill and Peter Breese said they saw Lyn. The hospital is now a drug rehabilitation hospital since 1993. They don't have the records from 1984. The article is about the defence not having time in the 7th week of trial to find the records. It will be discussed on Monday. The witness came up in the last couple of days. This is a different issue to the other 5 witnesses that weren't allowed to testify.

"On Friday afternoon, prosecutor Craig Everson, SC, handed Justice Ian Harrison a document and said the Crown proposed to call the person identified to give evidence.

The judge noted the evidence “goes to who worked there [at the hospital] and who didn’t”.

Everson said there was another person, in a similar category, whose evidence the Crown will contend “is much stronger” and they were intending to get a statement over the weekend"
 
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It's not behind a paywall at least for me.
Yes I can read it too, but there are signs for me that it is behind a paywall.
Thanks for posting the details.
It's all very interesting. Maybe the defence is a bit rattled.
 
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It's not behind a paywall at least for me. The article is about the hospital Jill and Peter Breese said they saw Lyn. The hospital is now a drug rehabilitation hospital since 1993. They don't have the records from 1984. The article is about the defence not having time in the 7th week of trial to find the records. It will be discussed on Monday. The witness came up in the last couple of days. This is a different issue to the other 5 witnesses that weren't allowed to testify.

"On Friday afternoon, prosecutor Craig Everson, SC, handed Justice Ian Harrison a document and said the Crown proposed to call the person identified to give evidence.

The judge noted the evidence “goes to who worked there [at the hospital] and who didn’t”.

Everson said there was another person, in a similar category, whose evidence the Crown will contend “is much stronger” and they were intending to get a statement over the weekend"
I am encouraged by the sound of this:

Everson said if the judge ruled against allowing the new evidence, he would need to seek instructions from the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions. He said the evidence was a separate issue to the witnesses the judge last week ruled against allowing to testify.
 
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‘Creepy’ Dawson said wife alive in commune

Giving evidence at Dawson’s murder trial on Monday, a woman said she bumped into twin brothers Chris and Paul Dawson at a wake for Phillip Day who was sick with cancer and died in 2007.

She said Dawson told her his wife Lynette had left home and was living in a Blue Mountains commune at the time. The woman asked how a wife could just up and leave her kids.

“Paul said something along the lines of, ‘she was a little bit crazy’,” she told Justice Ian Harrison.

She said she knew body language and described the Dawson twins’ behaviour as “creepy” because of the way they sat so close together.

“I think Chris was checking with his older twin that he was saying the right thing. That was the impression that I got,” she said.
 
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Offering money to get rid of wife.
If true, then it's not so much a stretch to think that he might offer money for someone to say that they'd seen her.
 
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Update according to The Australian :

The trial of Chris Dawson for the alleged murder of his wife Lynette resumes on Tuesday, with a witness waiting to give evidence via audiovisual link.

Wonder who this witness is? Perhaps it is Ray Lee, the guy Silkman claimed he told Chris Dawson had just asked him to get rid of his wife. If Lee is of reasonable character and can confirm Silkman said that to him, I suspect it will be a nail in the coffin of Chris Dawson.
 
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Offering money to get rid of wife.
If true, then it's not so much a stretch to think that he might offer money for someone to say that they'd seen her.
No stretch at all..

I think he floated the idea to people who he thought might do it , but he was way out on his idea of what the price for such a service should be. I think it's more than likely that Silkman, and perhaps others , toyed with the idea, but failed to recognise Dawson's inherent meanness. How much was Chris prepared to pay to get rid of the problem in his life?

I reckon, not much. Not as much as those who might do it would contemplate performing the murder for the sum offered. They would need quite a sum up front, and have absolute trust in Dawson, and he didn't seem to create trust in people easily. Unless you were a teenage girl. No problem there.

Money for saying they saw Lynn would be peanuts, right about Dawson's pocket book comfort.
 
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A homicide investigation into the 1982 disappearance of Lynette Dawson was called off because police could not disprove claims she had been seen alive and well afterwards.

"I raised the issue of witness testimony and statements of the police that Lynette Dawson had been seen a week after her supposed disappearance, and I was advised that unless we could refute that evidence, the investigation probably shouldn't proceed," he said.

WOW!

It's not hard to call the dogs off. Not hard at all.
 
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Chris Dawson allegedly called his first wife a “fat and ugly b_tch” after their second child was born, according to a neighbour whose statement has been allowed as evidence at his Sydney murder trial.

Justice Ian Harrison on Tuesday ruled that a redacted statement made by Coral Clarke, a former neighbour of the couple who is unwell and unavailable to give evidence, was admissible, and its reception did not create unfair prejudice to Dawson.

The Crown contends that Dawson had called her a fat and ugly 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 … when Lyn Dawson was said to be carrying extra weight that she could not lose following the pregnancy.

Chris Dawson's true colours yet again being revealed to the judge.
 
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