GUILTY Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #4

[k-mac]

If geoprofiling is applied....using the 'least effort' principle.. On the grounds that we all know instinctively where we are, and we know how to get back using the same track. And we unconsciously choose the route we know best.

In this matter, we know where he started from, and we know where he finished up that Friday//Saturday. A start point, and finish point, and I am assuming that he did not wake the girls and take them with him to hide Lyn's body. He could have, but it is a big jump, and those girls were not babies.

Theory - he kills her between 11pm and 1am Sat. He has 6 hours min, or if he kills her earlier, 8 hours, as he has to be back at home to wake and dress the girls.. say, he has to be back at home by 6.30am. 7am . And then take off for the Saturday job, at Northside pool with the girls.

So that makes it 3 hours out to the hiding place, , hide the body (1hr) and 3 hours back.. so a radius from his home of no more and most likely , a lot less than 3 hours in any direction. This is generous timing, not accounting for the shakes, for creating a hiding place, for taking a few wrong turns, etc,..

So ... Sydney , somewhere, and most likely, Northern Beaches, familiar, cosy, well trodden trails for all his life. On that night, he would not branch out into any unknown territory, with the cargo he has, and the necessity to off load it quickly. Not the night to try a strange freeway,...


That's if her body isn't extremely close to his house. It isn't far away.

( geoprofiling is usually applied when a body is found and the need then is to trace out where the killer started from and where he went back home to, on the grounds that even killers go back home , they don't disappear in a puff of air..

But in this we can postulate on the reverse. We know where he began, we know where he went back to , to pick up his daughters ......we know approx what time he would have started work at the pool. )

I think he killed her the friday night (hid her temp) and disposed of her sat night/sun early while the girls where safely out of view at Lyns mothers.
whether that allowed a deep hole on the property or a trip into bushland or the local tip.....time was on his side.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

A headsup. I think this is the transcript of the Vanished episode coming up on Australian Story tonight at 8pm.

 

[Belleandsebastian]

MSN

A headsup. I think this is the transcript of the Vanished episode coming up on Australian Story tonight at 8pm.

Such an emotional piece. The description of Lyn sitting with the sick little girl... the thought of Helena Simms catching public transport to the Central Coast to look for her daughter and sitting by the phone. I'm going to have to have lots of tissues to get through the Australian Story.

 

[nightrider17]

Yes "Trooper" and "Bats" I think you guys are right - She was given a "lovely drink" maybe more lovely than she had ever before.

It makes sense like GBC left his kids sleeping to deal with his problem.

I think you are right "Trooper" there is a time limit for him to be back so it had to be somewhere familiar and within 3 hours to make it doable and I also don't think he took her to the shops.

Maybe somethings are still buried on the home site - that he has come back to check hasn't been discovered. MOO

 

[Cliff Hardy]

He never grew up, never became a functioning adult.

Yep, you nailed it in one there.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[Trooper]

Hating this ...but if i were to put myself in Chris's shoes...if ever Lyn's body were found...

If he disposed of Lyn's body away from the home...then the lie still works (in his mind) that she ran away...ran into misfortune somewhere along the way..

But if Lyn's body was ever found somewhere on the properties....it would point the finger directly at him/them....doesn't fit with his lie ...MOO...
...certainly not impossible but difficult to fatham

That theory has a hell of a lot going for it. Dawson was (is) a terrific fantasist,, and this would fit in with his train of thought.

Driving round with her body in the boot.. It's been done, not forgetting it was January.... he would have had to leave the car in the car park at Northside pool for hours... I don't see him doing that, but I can see him doing Lyn's 'running away' for her.

I hate these situations where the husband not only murders his wife, but takes on the role of doctor declaring death, and funeral director. How could BadenClay be sure Alison was dead? what quals did Borce have to pronounce Karen dead? it's all guesswork, but no. go right ahead and bury them.. It is a window into their soul and character of how invincible, how taking ownership of a wife took them to the limits...

ps) January in Sydney is high summer, temp is around 80 to 90, F 34 38 C )

 

[Cliff Hardy]

I have just listened to the new Teachers Pet episode. You need to be a subscriber to listen.

I guess with the success the series has had The Australian would be mad not to try and cash in.

None the less, not happy Jan!

 

[Estelle]

Or maybe he put Lynn in the boot of his car until later in the day? (boot = trunk)

Maybe he had already dug the grave in advance too.

 

[Estelle]

Maybe he had already dug the grave in advance too.

But could he have carried the body alone?

 

[tmar]

But could he have carried the body alone?

She may have been unconscious

 

[Estelle]

She may have been unconscious

I believe dead bodies are heavier than live bodies.

Let’s say you have to carry two types of bodies: a live body and a dead (or at least unconscious) body. These bodies both weigh a hundred pounds or 45 kilograms, so there is no difference between the two in terms of mass. However, you may find that it is easier to carry a live body rather than the unconscious one. This has a lot to do with the physics of center of gravity.

If the person you are carrying is alive, they can adjust their weight and distribute it so that their center of gravity’s location makes it easier for them to carry. Whichever way you choose to carry them, they can adapt and put their weight where it is appropriate so that you can carry them. In some cases, it is even possible to carry someone bigger than you during times of emergencies when you have to carry someone away.

A conscious person can adjust their muscles and resist gravity, so instead of letting their arms fall limp, they will keep their arms around your neck (if possible) and prevent their legs from flailing around so you are less likely to drop them. Because they are conscious, they can physically act as one unit and keep control of their limbs.

On the other hand, an unconscious body means that their center of gravity is in the default position, making them unable to adjust. However you try to carry the person, there is no physical support from them because they won’t adjust their body to the style you’re carrying them or where their center of gravity ought to be to make your carrying style effective. Add in the fact that you have arms and legs that rigid or will flail around as you attempt to lift the body as a unit, making it difficult to hold onto their body alone.

In short, a conscious body can actively control their limbs and specific points in their body to adjust their weight and make it easy for another person to carry them. However, a dead or unconscious body (as well as any other inanimate object) only has a default center of gravity and has multiple parts that can weigh down their bodies if they cannot control it.

Why Dead Weight Feels Heavier Than “Non-Dead” Weight

There’s a reason why burdens are always called “dead weight.” Have you ever felt that carrying dead or non-living weight is much more difficult than carrying a live person or animal? It has a lot to do with equilibrium and physics. Here’s why.

www.dailysciencejournal.com

 

[tmar]

I believe dead bodies are heavier than live bodies.

She may have been still alive (but unconscious), so weighed less.
Perhaps he had a wheely carrier, so easier to move her to car and out to burial place.

 

[JustInterested77]

https://www.news.com.au/national/the-teachers-pet-podcast-returns-after-chris-dawson-found-guilty-of-murdering-wife-lyn/news-story/dac9f65a35f0044f0ffeb58fffb9c003

The Teacher’s Pet podcast returns after Chris Dawson found guilty of murdering wife Lyn​

After Chris Dawson was this week sensationally found guilty of murdering his wife Lynette Dawson 40 years ago, the podcast that started it all is making a comeback.

Now I can finish the last two episodes. It got taken down before I could finish it!! Think I might listen to it from the start though.

 

[SouthAussie]

But could he have carried the body alone?

I think he probably could have carried her just fine - well, maybe not 'just fine', but I think he could do it.
When I think that Borce Ristevski manouvered Karen's body into a vehicle and drove it kilometres away before dumping her a ways off the track.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

From what I read recently there are parts of the Teacher's Pet podcast that have been removed, due to the upcoming Carnal Knowledge charge.

 

[Kemug]

If CD gave Lynn a "lovely drink", maybe he also gave the little girls something to make sure they slept soundly that night?

 

[Estelle]

What do you all think of the lead someone gave to the idea that her body could be on the Central Coast?

Where did that lead come from?

 

[emirates1957]

I believe dead bodies are heavier than live bodies.

Let’s say you have to carry two types of bodies: a live body and a dead (or at least unconscious) body. These bodies both weigh a hundred pounds or 45 kilograms, so there is no difference between the two in terms of mass. However, you may find that it is easier to carry a live body rather than the unconscious one. This has a lot to do with the physics of center of gravity.

If the person you are carrying is alive, they can adjust their weight and distribute it so that their center of gravity’s location makes it easier for them to carry. Whichever way you choose to carry them, they can adapt and put their weight where it is appropriate so that you can carry them. In some cases, it is even possible to carry someone bigger than you during times of emergencies when you have to carry someone away.

A conscious person can adjust their muscles and resist gravity, so instead of letting their arms fall limp, they will keep their arms around your neck (if possible) and prevent their legs from flailing around so you are less likely to drop them. Because they are conscious, they can physically act as one unit and keep control of their limbs.

On the other hand, an unconscious body means that their center of gravity is in the default position, making them unable to adjust. However you try to carry the person, there is no physical support from them because they won’t adjust their body to the style you’re carrying them or where their center of gravity ought to be to make your carrying style effective. Add in the fact that you have arms and legs that rigid or will flail around as you attempt to lift the body as a unit, making it difficult to hold onto their body alone.

In short, a conscious body can actively control their limbs and specific points in their body to adjust their weight and make it easy for another person to carry them. However, a dead or unconscious body (as well as any other inanimate object) only has a default center of gravity and has multiple parts that can weigh down their bodies if they cannot control it.

Why Dead Weight Feels Heavier Than “Non-Dead” Weight

There’s a reason why burdens are always called “dead weight.” Have you ever felt that carrying dead or non-living weight is much more difficult than carrying a live person or animal? It has a lot to do with equilibrium and physics. Here’s why.

www.dailysciencejournal.com

Absolutely Estelle Centre Of Gravity plays a huge part….hence a dead weight.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

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Australian Story episode re Lynette, about to start.