GUILTY Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #4

[Witness 28]

I think Damien Loone said there was no DNA on the cardigan. They couldn't confirm that it was Lyn's cardigan from DNA. This was said in court.

Pink cardigan dug up no DNA link to allegedly murdered Lynnette Dawson

A pink cardigan dug up at Bayview home of Lyn Dawson has no DNA link to allegedly murdered mother-of-two but Chris Dawson trial hears swimming pool was paved soon after she vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pieces of a cardigan dug up at Lynette Dawson's home had no DNA links to her

Mr Loone agreed with crown prosecutor Craig Everson SC that 'nothing relevant from that cardigan' linking it to Lyn Dawson had ben uncovered.

While no DNA evidence on the cardigan or round where it was dug up, link the Cardigan to Lynette , said the Crown prosecutor and lead detective at the time , many said it was her favourite cardigan.
Maybe a bit of roleplay in trying to work out how the Cardigan got buried under the tiles.
Remembering the Cardigan had somewhat 20 or 30 slashing or stabbing tears to it.
In a kidnapping paying for ransom to get a loved one back, is there proof of life before you pay to get loved one back , I wonder how it works with a hitman ? when your employ a Hitman to do the dirty work , is it proof of death? Where something must be shown The Hitman has done it's job or maybe something went wrong that Friday night 8th of January, they got caught or someone's saw something ,sometime that Friday night a van was used maybe a driver was employed a hitman, the van needed to be cleaned out after disposing of the body,now at Dawson's place , blood washed away down the gutters and storm water drain the cardigan left behind on the ground soaked with water , then being discarded at will, could someone had panicked, Chris.. late at night what would you do with a soaking wet cardigan, throw it in the bin, maybe get caught, or he freaked out, and decide to lift up tiles concrete and dirt to get rid of it on Friday night under torchlight or something, Knowing that there was still one problem to fix?

 

[k-mac]

While no DNA evidence on the cardigan or round where it was dug up, link the Cardigan to Lynette , said the Crown prosecutor and lead detective at the time , many said it was her favourite cardigan.
Maybe a bit of roleplay in trying to work out how the Cardigan got buried under the tiles.
Remembering the Cardigan had somewhat 20 or 30 slashing or stabbing tears to it.
In a kidnapping paying for ransom to get a loved one back, is there proof of life before you pay to get loved one back , I wonder how it works with a hitman ? when your employ a Hitman to do the dirty work , is it proof of death? Where something must be shown The Hitman has done it's job or maybe something went wrong that Friday night 8th of January, they got caught or someone's saw something ,sometime that Friday night a van was used maybe a driver was employed a hitman, the van needed to be cleaned out after disposing of the body,now at Dawson's place , blood washed away down the gutters and storm water drain the cardigan left behind on the ground soaked with water , then being discarded at will, could someone had panicked, Chris.. late at night what would you do with a soaking wet cardigan, throw it in the bin, maybe get caught, or he freaked out, and decide to lift up tiles concrete and dirt to get rid of it on Friday night under torchlight or something, Knowing that there was still one problem to fix?

what makes you feel there was a hitman W28?

Personally, I am satisfied (with the evidence) that CD killed Lyn with his own bare hands.

Cheap and nasty..... best fit for him and his agenda.

 

[k-mac]

I think Damien Loone said there was no DNA on the cardigan. They couldn't confirm that it was Lyn's cardigan from DNA. This was said in court.

Pink cardigan dug up no DNA link to allegedly murdered Lynnette Dawson

A pink cardigan dug up at Bayview home of Lyn Dawson has no DNA link to allegedly murdered mother-of-two but Chris Dawson trial hears swimming pool was paved soon after she vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pieces of a cardigan dug up at Lynette Dawson's home had no DNA links to her

Mr Loone agreed with crown prosecutor Craig Everson SC that 'nothing relevant from that cardigan' linking it to Lyn Dawson had ben uncovered.

Just my opinion but I don't hold it as fool proof the DNA reports on that cardigan.

Shandee blackburn case and john peros DNA mess.

The lab is now under investigation in QLD for bundling who knows how many investigations.

 

[hoodunnit]

His daughter believes she saw him digging near the pool while the car headlights were shining on the area

If she were of this opinion, as an adult, surely she would have gone to the police. I'm curious to know why this is only just coming out now.

 

[Witness 28]

what makes you feel there was a hitman W28?

Personally, I am satisfied (with the evidence) that CD killed Lyn with his own bare hands.

Cheap and nasty..... best fit for him and his agenda.

Hi k-mac,

Mystery 'Witness No.28' may take the stand​

DAVID MURRAY
A mystery witness has emerged at former teacher and professional footballer Chris Dawson’s murder trial.
Prosecutor Craig Everson SC told the Supreme Court in Sydney late Thursday that there was a witness who had not yet been subpoenaed to attend.
The person, referred to as Witness No. 28, might seek to have the subpoena set aside, Mr Everson said.
When trial judge Ian Harrison SC asked who the witness was, Mr Everson asked if he could write the name down on a piece of paper, then handed it up to the bench.
The judge sounded surprised.
Mr Everson said Witness 28 had generated a lot of material.
He said the Harman obligation potentially applied to that material, referring to a legal rule that information obtained through a court’s compulsory processes only be used for the purposes for which they were disclosed.
Other witnesses who could be called this week include Mr Dawson’s twin bother Paul and his wife Marilyn, and older brother Peter Dawson.
Mr Dawson, 73, is accused of murdering his wife Lynette in January 1982. He has pleaded not guilty

what makes you feel there was a hitman W28?

Personally, I am satisfied (with the evidence) that CD killed Lyn with his own bare hands.

Cheap and nasty..... best fit for him and his agenda.

 

[Witness 28]

what makes you feel there was a hitman W28?

Personally, I am satisfied (with the evidence) that CD killed Lyn with his own bare hands.

Cheap and nasty..... best fit for him and his agenda.

Hi k-mac,

Mystery 'Witness No.28' may take the stand​

DAVID MURRAY
A mystery witness has emerged at former teacher and professional footballer Chris Dawson’s murder trial.
Prosecutor Craig Everson SC told the Supreme Court in Sydney late Thursday that there was a witness who had not yet been subpoenaed to attend.
The person, referred to as Witness No. 28, might seek to have the subpoena set aside, Mr Everson said.
When trial judge Ian Harrison SC asked who the witness was, Mr Everson asked if he could write the name down on a piece of paper, then handed it up to the bench.
The judge sounded surprised.
Mr Everson said Witness 28 had generated a lot of material.
He said the Harman obligation potentially applied to that material, referring to a legal rule that information obtained through a court’s compulsory processes only be used for the purposes for which they were disclosed.
Other witnesses who could be called this week include Mr Dawson’s twin bother Paul and his wife Marilyn, and older brother Peter Dawson.
Mr Dawson, 73, is accused of murdering his wife Lynette in January 1982. He has pleaded not guilty

what makes you feel there was a hitman W28?

Personally, I am satisfied (with the evidence) that CD killed Lyn with his own bare hands.

Cheap and nasty..... best fit for him and his agenda.

 

[Witness 28]

Hi k-mac,

Mystery 'Witness No.28' may take the stand​

DAVID MURRAY
A mystery witness has emerged at former teacher and professional footballer Chris Dawson’s murder trial.
Prosecutor Craig Everson SC told the Supreme Court in Sydney late Thursday that there was a witness who had not yet been subpoenaed to attend.
The person, referred to as Witness No. 28, might seek to have the subpoena set aside, Mr Everson said.
When trial judge Ian Harrison SC asked who the witness was, Mr Everson asked if he could write the name down on a piece of paper, then handed it up to the bench.
The judge sounded surprised.
Mr Everson said Witness 28 had generated a lot of material.
He said the Harman obligation potentially applied to that material, referring to a legal rule that information obtained through a court’s compulsory processes only be used for the purposes for which they were disclosed.
Other witnesses who could be called this week include Mr Dawson’s twin bother Paul and his wife Marilyn, and older brother Peter Dawson.
Mr Dawson, 73, is accused of murdering his wife Lynette in January 1982. He has pleaded not guilty

Trust me k-Mac..... there was a hitman

 

[Witness 28]

Just my opinion but I don't hold it as fool proof the DNA reports on that cardigan.

Shandee blackburn case and john peros DNA mess.

The lab is now under investigation in QLD for bundling who knows how many investigations.

How many people remember DNA testing on the Azaria Chamberlain case when overspray inside the Torana of the Chamberlain's car was taken for blood and it was actually paint, and so-called experts said it was scissor marks on the matinee top Zaria Chamberlain was wearing on the night the dingo took her ,but was actually a dingo teeth marks.
And a tribe of Aborigines who own the dingoes at the time was so scared that white people we're going to hunting down and killing them ,because it was their dingo who carried Azaria Chamberlain away, news reports, so the Aborigines buried the matinee jacket at Ayers Rock, Uluru .
So scared the these Aboriginals were. True story from from a rapid reputable radio station in Australia.

 

[DRT]

Just my opinion but I don't hold it as fool proof the DNA reports on that cardigan.

Shandee blackburn case and john peros DNA mess.

The lab is now under investigation in QLD for bundling who knows how many investigations.

I wasn't saying it wasn't Lyn's cardigan. I am sure it was. From memory from the podcasts someone said it was likely that if Lyn had been wearing the cardigan at the time there would be DNA. The process of time may have degraded any usable DNA. I thought previously they had said there was Mitochondrial DNA on the cardigan but maybe there was too little or detect or prove that it absolutely belonged to Lyn. Processes used in Queensland regarding the having more than 21 cells to be considered DNA do not apply in this case. Even if there were 10 cells I am sure they would have retested.

The point I was making from this is the cardigan was considered but it couldn't discount or confirm that it was Lyn's cardigan.

 

[DRT]

Hi k-mac,

Mystery 'Witness No.28' may take the stand​

DAVID MURRAY
A mystery witness has emerged at former teacher and professional footballer Chris Dawson’s murder trial.
Prosecutor Craig Everson SC told the Supreme Court in Sydney late Thursday that there was a witness who had not yet been subpoenaed to attend.
The person, referred to as Witness No. 28, might seek to have the subpoena set aside, Mr Everson said.
When trial judge Ian Harrison SC asked who the witness was, Mr Everson asked if he could write the name down on a piece of paper, then handed it up to the bench.
The judge sounded surprised.
Mr Everson said Witness 28 had generated a lot of material.
He said the Harman obligation potentially applied to that material, referring to a legal rule that information obtained through a court’s compulsory processes only be used for the purposes for which they were disclosed.
Other witnesses who could be called this week include Mr Dawson’s twin bother Paul and his wife Marilyn, and older brother Peter Dawson.
Mr Dawson, 73, is accused of murdering his wife Lynette in January 1982. He has pleaded not guilty

You don't think Witness 28 was Hedley Thomas? The judge was familiar with them and generated a lot of material. Hedley was unsure for a lot of the trial if he would appear.

 

[Witness 28]

I wasn't saying it wasn't Lyn's cardigan. I am sure it was. From memory from the podcasts someone said it was likely that if Lyn had been wearing the cardigan at the time there would be DNA. The process of time may have degraded any usable DNA. I thought previously they had said there was Mitochondrial DNA on the cardigan but maybe there was too little or detect or prove that it absolutely belonged to Lyn. Processes used in Queensland regarding the having more than 21 cells to be considered DNA do not apply in this case. Even if there were 10 cells I am sure they would have retested.

The point I was making from this is the cardigan was considered but it couldn't discount or confirm that it was Lyn's cardigan.

I think you're right, no DNA or DNA had broken down so much

 

[Witness 28]

You don't think Witness 28 was Hedley Thomas? The judge was familiar with them and generated a lot of material. Hedley was unsure for a lot of the trial if he would appear.

No Hedley Thomas was not mystery Witness 28, Hedley Thomas gave evidence!

 

[k-mac]

I wasn't saying it wasn't Lyn's cardigan. I am sure it was. From memory from the podcasts someone said it was likely that if Lyn had been wearing the cardigan at the time there would be DNA. The process of time may have degraded any usable DNA. I thought previously they had said there was Mitochondrial DNA on the cardigan but maybe there was too little or detect or prove that it absolutely belonged to Lyn. Processes used in Queensland regarding the having more than 21 cells to be considered DNA do not apply in this case. Even if there were 10 cells I am sure they would have retested.

The point I was making from this is the cardigan was considered but it couldn't discount or confirm that it was Lyn's cardigan.

yes I know what your getting at here DRT but as you agree, we all are confident its Lyns cardigan.

Because the dna is degraded the item although important was discounted and I think that is a travesty.

The location of it is likely where Lyn was hidden at least for some time orginally IMO.

dna shouldn't be all or nothing in or out. Nothing conclusive showing doesn't mean it wasn't hers. JMO
It's very frustating

 

[k-mac]

Trust me k-Mac..... there was a hitman

I am aware that he talked about it and made some verbal inquiries but I agree with the evidence shown ...it never went anywhere.

Let's look at Dawson as a person.
Cheap...miserable ....not in the boys club or liked by anyone really...
who would do him that kind of favour??

The timing of his behaviour and actions show a very desperate man trying his damnest to woo a young girl he was obsessed with.

He had all the time in the world to do it all....himself.

No doubt twin1 gave a guiding hand somewhere in amongst it......

 

[musicaljoke]

If she were of this opinion, as an adult, surely she would have gone to the police. I'm curious to know why this is only just coming out now.

Don't forget that there is a lot we don't know. She may have gone to the police, which is possibly why there was a dig. The court may have decided not to use her evidence. Or she might have been so traumatized by a lifetime of gaslighting that she wasn't able to connect the dots until after the guilty verdict came in. I'm sure that none of us would cast any shade on her for the steps in whatever horrific journey she has been on.

 

[hoodunnit]

Don't forget that there is a lot we don't know. She may have gone to the police, which is possibly why there was a dig. The court may have decided not to use her evidence. Or she might have been so traumatized by a lifetime of gaslighting that she wasn't able to connect the dots until after the guilty verdict came in. I'm sure that none of us would cast any shade on her for the steps in whatever horrific journey she has been on.

True. I don't doubt it's been a hell of a life for her. Not disputing that and certainly not "casting shade" as our friends across the pond say. I'm simply interested in the hows and wherefores. The 60 minutes programme on Sunday should be enlightening.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/jail-threats-force-regional-transfer-for-wife-killer-chris-dawson/news-story/dd50749321ae2e6e2753f321fa277244

Christopher Dawson has been transferred to a regional prison, due to threats against his life.

He has been transferred to the Macquarie Correctional Centre, outside Wellington, 360km northwest of Sydney.

 

[Witness 28]

I am aware that he talked about it and made some verbal inquiries but I agree with the evidence shown ...it never went anywhere.

Let's look at Dawson as a person.
Cheap...miserable ....not in the boys club or liked by anyone really...
who would do him that kind of favour??

The timing of his behaviour and actions show a very desperate man trying his damnest to woo a young girl he was obsessed with.

He had all the time in the world to do it all....himself.

No doubt twin1 gave a guiding hand somewhere in amongst it......

True. I don't doubt it's been a hell of a life for her. Not disputing that and certainly not "casting shade" as our friends across the pond say. I'm simply interested in the hows and wherefores. The 60 minutes programme on Sunday should be enlightening.

I don't think she went to the police because in the last 60 Minutes interview with the diary she said she couldn't comprehend her father was guilty look for the last 60 Minutes interview

 

[Witness 28]

I don't think she went to the police because in the last 60 Minutes interview with the diary she said she couldn't comprehend her father was guilty look for the last 60 Minutes interview

I will be watching 60 Minutes interview and I will not criticise what she has to say, she lost her mother 40 years ago and a father told her that her mother didn't love her and her sister, that's why she left ,I met Lynette Dawson only once, on Friday night, Lynette it would be so happy looking down now,that she is loved by her daughter, and that's what counts.

 

[k-mac]

I will be watching 60 Minutes interview and I will not criticise what she has to say, she lost her mother 40 years ago and a father told her that her mother didn't love her and her sister, that's why she left ,I met Lynette Dawson only once, on Friday night, Lynette it would be so happy looking down now,that she is loved by her daughter, and that's what counts.

witness 28 you are intriguing.
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