Australia Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest*

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Nocookies

any of our websleuthers in sydney??
I wish I could be there.
not sure there is a whole lot of advertising the event :(

I am but the article is paywalled for me, k-mac.
 
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the whole article by kate mcauley is a good read.
have a look when ur limit expires again. bo.
I try to keep my the Australian viewing to stories only related to lyn. they are def the best!

so you mean your going tomorrow bo?
 
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the whole article by kate mcauley is a good read.
have a look when ur limit expires again. bo.
I try to keep my the Australian viewing to stories only related to lyn. they are def the best!

so you mean your going tomorrow bo?

I will, thanks k-mac.

No, not going tomorrow (unfortunately).
 
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Here’s a link to the Kate McAuley story that’s not paywalled for me at least.

Nocookies
 
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The Cardy…. to me.. it is a significant signpost that Chris didnt think of everything.... I have tried and tried to go back thru the Met weather reports for that day, on the Northern Beaches, with no luck, and it's hard to judge these days by those days , it is much hotter, now, but back then, believe it or not, it wasn't unusual to get a bit of a breeze up in January, where by Lynn may have had a cardy on that day.

He could have cut it up in spite, he had a lot of that in him, from what I gather. He must have, to keep her family so gutted for so long. But overall, it isn't improbable to see that cardigan as part of her murder, and discarded carelessly in the frenzy of the event.
Bbm

I am not going to try what is already tried.. But I have found Jan 1982 is often featured in the Sydney weather records chart:
Sydney Temperature Records - January

It seems to me that a few days in Jan 1982 in Sydney (not exactly 9th though) had very high minimum temperatures, and very low ranges, an indication of cloudy days and muggy nights.

I also have personal memories of the latter part in that month - believe it or not! I arrived in Sydney for the first time in my life around that time. I don't remember it being cool. I even had a photo of the extended family in front of Manly beach.

(Just my opinion and not so accurate memory)
 
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Bbm

I am not going to try what is already tried.. But I have found Jan 1982 is often featured in the Sydney weather records chart:
Sydney Temperature Records - January

It seems to me that a few days in Jan 1982 in Sydney (not exactly 9th though) had very high minimum temperatures, and very low ranges, an indication of cloudy days and muggy nights.

I also have personal memories of the latter part in that month - believe it or not! I arrived in Sydney for the first time in my life around that time. I don't remember it being cool. I even had a photo of the extended family in front of Manly beach.

(Just my opinion and not so accurate memory)
Sterling sleuthing , Madame Marple!!...
 
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Here’s a link to the Kate McAuley story that’s not paywalled for me at least.

Nocookies
Search for Kate McAuley Lyn Dawson.

I got it by searching once then couldn't again LOL.

Teacher’s Pet: culture of targeting students for sex tolerated on Sydney’s northern beaches
 
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Sterling sleuthing , Madame Marple!!...
Thank you dear.... In this day and age, I can be referred to as Ms Marple:)

Just hoping you may fine tune the theory a bit... I don't follow this case much, just watching the recent tv 'special'.
 
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Thank you dear.... In this day and age, I can be referred to as Ms Marple:)

Just hoping you may fine tune the theory a bit... I don't follow this case much, just watching the recent tv 'special'.

I want to attach the cardigan to Lynn on the night she was murdered. It isn't impossible that Lynn threw the cardigan away, it fell out of the bin , etc, a lot of variables.... The cardigan is all there is, really.

The neighbor confirmed it was Lynn's and it was her favourite, .. I thought, maybe a Southerly Buster came up that night, as it sometimes does in a Sydney summer, after Xmas is the season for those.. she may have draped it around her shoulders.. or.. maybe it was hot enough that the air conditioning was put on, although I don't know if they had it installed. Or if Chris wasn't too mean to ever allow it to be used...

A lot of loose and frail ends, none of which pull together in a cohesive knot. .. not exactly fine tuning, more theorizing. … .
 
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the cardy.
not incomprehensible however ...we built our home and I promise you there will never be an item of clothing of any of my family buried in the earth.

sadly a few much loved deceased animals wrapped in old blankets.
that's it.

an item of clothing she wore regularly and that suspected cardy owner likely dead on the property can not be a sloppy coincidence.

and the fact they didn't find her....I reckon he must have dug her up and disposed of her somehow......maybe around the time he was kreeping around the property???
unfathomable though how he could do it if the home was occupied by new people.
but hey if she was actually in the garden area under all that shrubbery maybe he could have and not been detected??
just thowing it out there.

imo
 
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I want to attach the cardigan to Lynn on the night she was murdered. It isn't impossible that Lynn threw the cardigan away, it fell out of the bin , etc, a lot of variables.... The cardigan is all there is, really.

The neighbor confirmed it was Lynn's and it was her favourite, .. I thought, maybe a Southerly Buster came up that night, as it sometimes does in a Sydney summer, after Xmas is the season for those.. she may have draped it around her shoulders.. or.. maybe it was hot enough that the air conditioning was put on, although I don't know if they had it installed. Or if Chris wasn't too mean to ever allow it to be used...

A lot of loose and frail ends, none of which pull together in a cohesive knot. .. not exactly fine tuning, more theorizing. … .

the cardy.
not incomprehensible however ...we built our home and I promise you there will never be an item of clothing of any of my family buried in the earth.

sadly a few much loved deceased animals wrapped in old blankets.
that's it.

an item of clothing she wore regularly and that suspected cardy owner likely dead on the property can not be a sloppy coincidence.

and the fact they didn't find her....I reckon he must have dug her up and disposed of her somehow......maybe around the time he was kreeping around the property???
unfathomable though how he could do it if the home was occupied by new people.
but hey if she was actually in the garden area under all that shrubbery maybe he could have and not been detected??
just thowing it out there.

imo
Yes I got that the cardi is really the only item of evidence, that indicates Lyn disappeared not by her own free will. If there was any valid reason it had been there, I bet it had been disclosed a long time ago .

However I really can't imagine that a wool/cashmere cardi would be needed on a summer night, whatever cold winds might be blowing. A cotton/polyester cardi or jacket would be more like it.

I read here that Chris and Paul were running garbage disposal jobs at that time. What easier way of getting rid of a body? So my thinking is, Lyn is long gone from that home, she sadly can't be found anymore.

However there is a chance that other odds and ends of evidence had been buried at the home, as an afterthought. The cardi found was one. I hope they will find more.

How the cardi might be part of the crime, I don't know.
 
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i disagree about the cardy. everyone feels the cold differently so lynnie might have been a cold frog like me. my ugh boots get a work out all year round haha!!(bring on those 40degree days pleeeeeease )

yes I agree VM with the garbage disposal job is highly suspicious.
Hedley didn't mention it in the podcast hoping this means there is other little goodies he deliberately held back for possible prosecution purposes :-)
 
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I was reading the article Teacher’s Pet: culture of targeting students for sex tolerated on Sydney’s northern beaches and Kate McAuley's story at Beacon Hill High School in 1987.

She said that she started there in 1987 and the school still had the same culture.

"attended Beacon Hill High School, where Dawson was quietly transferred after his relationship with Curtis was no longer an open secret. "

So Chris was at 3 schools in Sydney - Cromer High, Beacon Hill High School and Asquith Boys High.

Paul was at Cromer High, Forest High and Asquith Boys High.

Nocookies

Nocookies

I noticed there was a link Summary to Lyn Dawson articles at:

Nocookies
 
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i disagree about the cardy. everyone feels the cold differently so lynnie might have been a cold frog like me. my ugh boots get a work out all year round haha!!(bring on those 40degree days pleeeeeease )

yes I agree VM with the garbage disposal job is highly suspicious.
Hedley didn't mention it in the podcast hoping this means there is other little goodies he deliberately held back for possible prosecution purposes :)
Great! I am sometimes hot and sometimes cold ;)

If Lyn's family and friends remember her well, it should not too hard for them to remember what she tended to wear in summer.

She might also wear a cardigan to hide her bruise marks. The Australian's timeline is a good read for the holiday! (Strange sleuther's taste yeaho_O)

Was that 'popper' the only other item retrieved from the first dig? I hope... They meant Popper juice???....
 
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only guessing but I assumed too that they meant popper juice.
I don't remember when they started commercially but must have been before then?
I can only remember sunnyboys in that cardboard foil boxes back then.
 
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only guessing but I assumed too that they meant popper juice.
I don't remember when they started commercially but must have been before then?
I can only remember sunnyboys in that cardboard foil boxes back then.
Learned something tonight. It's just a generic juice box in Aus, doesn't have to be Popper Juice o_O

Popper - Wikipedia

Could be a whole lot of other stuff too...

... But why bury a juice box? Were the kids playing while the pool surrounds were being dug up.....
 
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Learned something tonight. It's just a generic juice box in Aus, doesn't have to be Popper Juice o_O

Popper - Wikipedia

Could be a whole lot of other stuff too...

... But why bury a juice box? Were the kids playing while the pool surrounds were being dug up.....
The juice box had a use by date around the time Lyn went missing. I think the Simms family said the bricks around the pool were put in shortly after Lyn went missing.
 
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