ACTIVE SEARCH Australia. Man wanted after pouring hot coffee on baby in park, Brisbane, Queensland. 27th August 2024

[Dotta]

Interesting article about why the perp may have done such a thing.

China expert reveals new theory on why man scalded baby in park – OverSixty

A cultural expert in Chinese social issues has shared his thoughts about why a man attacked nine-month-old Luka with scalding water in a Brisbane park, and how it follows a similar trend in the attacker's home country.

www.oversixty.com.au

It seemed his "farewell" to Australia.

I guess
he had a return plane ticket ready.
He couldn't have run quickly enough to the airport.

Who knows how he is reacting now to stressful situations?
I bet he is "sitting as quietly as a mouse"
trying not to draw attention to himself.

JMO

 

[Elley Mae]

Migrant allegedly scalded baby with hot coffee in sickening random attack after visa application was rejected

Migrant allegedly scalded baby with hot coffee in sickening random attack after visa application was rejected

The infant sustained burns to 60 per cent of his body, including his face and upper body, and was forced to undergo multiple surgeries.

nypost.com

It is understood that evidence from Queensland Police against the suspect has been provided to Chinese authorities. However, authorities have refused to confirm the move, the publication reports.

 

[Melt71]

All as I pointed out back in November, there are challenges with extraditions and particularly in dealings with China. Explainer: why the government ‘pulled’ Australia’s extradition treaty with China

Additionally the Mutual Assistance Treaty between Australia and China isn't set up this way (explained right up front, in paragraph 4 of the Treaty). Many of you are raising questions about what can/can't be done and you can find the answers to within the text of the agreement. It's written in plain English and is available at www.legislation.gov.au/F2007L00302/asmade/text

 

[PrairieWind]

All as I pointed out back in November, there are challenges with extraditions and particularly in dealings with China. Explainer: why the government ‘pulled’ Australia’s extradition treaty with China

Additionally the Mutual Assistance Treaty between Australia and China isn't set up this way (explained right up front, in paragraph 4 of the Treaty). Many of you are raising questions about what can/can't be done and you can find the answers to within the text of the agreement. It's written in plain English and is available at www.legislation.gov.au/F2007L00302/asmade/text

You really have to wonder what exactly was the purpose of that treaty.

 

[Dotta]

You really have to wonder what exactly was the purpose of that treaty.

It is for:

"Australia and China
to assist each other in the investigation and prosecution of serious crimes

including:

- terrorism,
- fraud,
- money laundering,
- people trafficking."

Quote from a post (#437) upthread.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957731730535653790

"Almost a year after the ordeal,
Luka's mother confirmed on Tuesday
that her son had undergone eight operations.

'Every procedure is a painful reminder of what was done to him
— and of the justice that still hasn't come'.

'He's received synthetic skin grafts,
skin needling,
and laser treatments for his burns'.

The mother described it as
'beyond unacceptable'
that the perpetrator had not faced the consequences, calling it
'one of the hardest things to endure'.

'To those in positions of power:
please don't make it another year.
Do not let this man escape accountability for hurting a child'.

'Our legal systems and international relationships should protect victims and children,
yet they have failed to do so',
the woman said.

Luka, who will turn two in October,
is continuing his recovery.

His mother said he has a
'strength that continues
to outshine the cruelty he experienced'.

'Despite everything he has endured
and continues to endure,
he is healing with a spirit
that amazes us every single day'."

 

[PrairieWind]

It is for:

"Australia and China
to assist each other in the investigation and prosecution of serious crimes

including:

- terrorism,
- fraud,
- money laundering,
- people trafficking."

Quote from a post (#437) upthread.

But is the treaty actually accomplishing those goals? And I am talking about outside of this case. Were there discussions and negotiations about including extradition of criminal defendants as well?

 

[Via Marple]

A murder suspect from Canada had fled to Hong Kong last year. One year on, there's still no news of finding him. Let alone extradition.

Found Deceased Thread 'Canada - Ying (Anita) Mui, 56, Markham Ontario, 9 Aug 2024'

Aug 12, 2024

Missing real estate agent, since Aug9, car found. Family last heard from her Friday at 11am. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/yuk-ying-mui-missing-markham-woman-1.7292259

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[Dotta]

A murder suspect from Canada had fled to Hong Kong last year. One year on, there's still no news of finding him. Let alone extradition.

Found Deceased Thread 'Canada - Ying (Anita) Mui, 56, Markham Ontario, 9 Aug 2024'

Aug 12, 2024

Missing real estate agent, since Aug9, car found. Family last heard from her Friday at 11am. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/yuk-ying-mui-missing-markham-woman-1.7292259

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There is a thread on WS about an Asian woman who allegedly murdered her 2 children and kept them in a suitcase.
It happened in Australia.
She fled to her home country but was successfully extradited to Australia.
But this case went quiet.
Was there a trial?
And I'm not sure where she fled to.
Was it China?
Or Hong Kong?



It happened some time ago, so my memory is hazy.
But extradition to Australia was successful.

 

[PinkButtercup]

There is a thread on WS about an Asian woman who allegedly murdered her 2 children and kept them in a suitcase.
It happened in Australia.
She fled to her home country but was successfully extradited to Australia.
But this case went quiet.
Was there a trial?
And I'm not sure where she fled to.
Was it China?
Or Hong Kong?



It happened some time ago, so my memory is hazy.
But extradition to Australia was successful.

If I remember correctly, it was New Zealand.

edit: Yes

NZ - Two Children's Remains Found in Suitcases Bought at Auction - Auckland *Mother Arrested*

 

[Dotta]

If I remember correctly, it was New Zealand.

edit: Yes

NZ - Two Children's Remains Found in Suitcases Bought at Auction - Auckland *Mother Arrested*

Really???
Oh well...

I checked - thank you for the link.
She allegedly murdered her kids in NZ.
But....
fled to South Korea.
And was extradited to NZ without problems.

 

[SouthAussie]

If I remember correctly, it was New Zealand.

edit: Yes

NZ - Two Children's Remains Found in Suitcases Bought at Auction - Auckland *Mother Arrested*

Also, the woman was deported from South Korea, not China.

 

[PrairieWind]

Really???
Oh well...
No wonder extradition was quick!

Thanks!

And the woman was extradited from South Korea, not the PRC.

 

[Vaderman]

Still no justice for this guy:

Man who attacked baby with hot coffee remains free in China one year on

Australian police say they are working with Chinese authorities in a bid to force a man who allegedly poure...

www.9news.com.au

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Still no justice for this guy:

Man who attacked baby with hot coffee remains free in China one year on

Australian police say they are working with Chinese authorities in a bid to force a man who allegedly poure...

www.9news.com.au

Thanks for update!

 

[Melt71]

But is the treaty actually accomplishing those goals? And I am talking about outside of this case. Were there discussions and negotiations about including extradition of criminal defendants as well?

There are extraditions to Australia all the time that meet the legal requirement of the requesting country (Australia) and the other 'sending' country. For example this domestic violence murder case where the husband was extradited from India www.sbs.com.au/news/article/former-nurse-rajwinder-singh-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-toyah-cordingley/uxiuprymr

In the case of China, they almost never agree to extradite one of their citizens to face trial overseas. I posted information on this upthread a few months ago. Extradition requires both countries to be willing partners. That will be what the ongoing discussions with the Chinese authorities and the Australian Federal Police will be trying to hash out.

The article posted by @Vaderman dates back to August and that news release was discussed a page or two back.

 

[Twick]

To be fair, he’s probably not doing well in China.

 

[Via Marple]

To be fair, he’s probably not doing well in China.

What makes you think that?