Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, Jun 1997 #5

[JLZ]

A deed poll may also be used to register a Billing Agent. A Billing Agent acts on the patient’s behalf to claim Medicare and private health insurance medical benefits.
How Does a Deed Poll Work? - Lawpath
How does this work? Would it hide any visits to dentists/doctors under the persons name.

No it wouldn't hide anything. The history of items claimed goes against the patient's Medicare number. Who gets the payment is a different question. Just routinely, if the patient has paid in full up front, then the patient would get the payment; otherwise the payment would go to the doctor. That makes no difference to the item being recorded against the patient. It needs to be that way, because there are rules such as, for a given patient, Medicare will pay no more than 4 of these specific services in a 12-month period. (There are lots of rules where the history affects the payment.)

Also, changing one's name shouldn't make a difference either: the history is connected to the Medicare number irrespective of the name. However I don't know whether police would have been legally permitted/would have had the competence to know to search by Medicare number. I can't completely exclude a case of fraud slipping through and enabling someone to get a new Medicare identity, but the system is designed to prevent it.

I know this because I worked with a subset of the database.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Does anyone know how long the teacher's registration renewal lasted for back in 1997 in NSW? Thanks.

 

[Zeus1121]

That's interesting Curiosity Cat, yes, maybe she was over there for Steiner training. I'm finding quite a few in Australia starting up around the '96 mark. I guess we'd only be able to find Marion by seeing a photo rather than looking for a name if she's done another switcheroo.

Kindergarten - Silver Tree Steiner School
Hi just searching Steiner schools in Perth and found a photo which might resemble Marion.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Kindergarten - Silver Tree Steiner School
Hi just searching Steiner schools in Perth and found a photo which might resemble Marion.

Good find Zeus1121 and welcome. It's really interesting that so many of these schools started up around 1997, hey, and I see this one did too. Does look very similar to Marion, yes, but I think it might be against websleuths rules though to post this .... perhaps forward it on to The Lady Vanishes Team privately and they could look into it. Might just be an innocent person going about her job and they end up on a websleuths page. There's the private conversation messaging format for sharing information too. Cheers

 

[Zeus1121]

Good find Zeus1121 and welcome. It's really interesting that so many of these schools started up around 1997, hey, and I see this one did too. Does look very similar to Marion, yes, but I think it might be against websleuths rules though to post this .... perhaps forward it on to The Lady Vanishes Team privately and they could look into it. Might just be an innocent person going about her job and they end up on a websleuths page. There's the private conversation messaging format for sharing information too. Cheers

My apologies. Thank you for letting me know.

 

[kiwi50]

6 weeks in Kent/Sussex to visit Jane Austen related sites, yet never mentioning seeing anything Austen related in her postcards or calls? Gushing over tea with little old ladies, red squirrels or shopping rather than "I saw the place which inspired Sense and Sensibility" or whatever? Nah.

Ask anyone in the UK for areas they associate with Austen and it's either Bath, or her house and museum in Hampshire.

I know it's irrational but I am growing to dislike Marion quite a lot. The more we learn about her, the more she is coming across as needy, devious and manipulative to those closest too her and although at the start of hte podcast I was almost sure that she had been murdered, as time goes on I'm not so sure. At least not in 1997.

I feel very sorry for Sally, and hope she finds out what happened to Marion.
I don’t have much empathy for Marion, pretty mean thing to do, changing your name with out telling your daughter, even worse coming back into the country and not telling her.
There is something devious about Marion, maybe her sister did have a handle on the real Marion.

 

[SaintGertrude]

I am still thinking of what better way for Marion to hide than to go and live on a ship. Seriously some people live on cruise ships and if Marion met someone wealthy she could have changed her identity and lived on cruise ships all these years. This Man Has Been Living On Cruise Ships for Twenty Years

 

[SaintGertrude]

I am still thinking of what better way for Marion to hide than to go and live on a ship. Seriously some people live on cruise ships and if Marion met someone wealthy she could have changed her identity and lived on cruise ships all these years. This Man Has Been Living On Cruise Ships for Twenty Years

Another interesting article about living on a cruise ship as an alternative lifestyle. I can imagine Marion doing this. How to retire on a cruise ship - the ups and downs of life at sea - NZ Herald.

 

[SaintGertrude]

I wonder if Marion got Luxembourg in her head after Grand Duchy being the European capital of culture in 1995.
The following was in the archives for Sydney morning Herald. There is a paywall.

 

[SaintGertrude]

This is from Wayback machine in 1998.
Luxembourg Tourist Office in London

Should you want to get to Luxembourg in the comfort of your own aircraft, you might like to contact the Luxembourg Air-Taxi company: LuxAviation at Luxembourg Airport, L-1110 Findel, Tel: (+352) 42 52 52 - 1, GSM: (+352) 021 17 25 40, Fax: (+352) 42 71 40, email: [email protected]. They have several aircraft available, able to carry up to seven passengers, with a range of 3000 km from Luxembourg. For more information, please check out their website at http://www.luxaviation.com

The nearest travel agency to Tunbridge Wells offering short breaks was:-
Crystal Holidays
Crystal House
The Courtyard
Arlington Road
Surbiton
Surrey
KT6 6BW

The Caravan club in East Grinstead is very near to Tunbridge Wells and is listed as a camping holiday tour operator for Luxembourg.
Caravan Club
East Grinstead House
East Grinstead
West Sussex
RH19 1UA

 

[SaintGertrude]

Route by road to Luxembourg from the UK in 1998 (Nothing on Wayback machine for 1997)

 

[Itsapuzzle]

My apologies. Thank you for letting me know.

No worries. I should have put the email address here for you if you too, it's [email protected]
A real distinguishing feature of Marion is her chin, it's quite long and pointed. If she had her eye treated, the chin is definitely a stand-out feature. And if she did continue to teach, the way she wanted, it would be in a small town like that, you'd think, tucked away somewhere. MOO

 

[SaintGertrude]

I have found the website for Luxaviatiom and they have three bases in Australia.
The Wayback machine shows 1998 for trips from the UK so I am not sure how long they have been international.

It was another idea on how Marion or Florabella or whoever could have left Australia after she came back.
Our Locations - Luxury Jet Charters | Luxaviation Melbourne

 

[SaintGertrude]

I have found the website for Luxaviatiom and they have three bases in Australia.
The Wayback machine shows 1998 for trips from the UK so I am not sure how long they have been international.

It was another idea on how Marion or Florabella or whoever could have left Australia after she came back.
Our Locations - Luxury Jet Charters | Luxaviation Melbourne

I have asked the Luxaviation company how long they keep records for and will see what they come back with. We already know that Marion cancelled the Orient Express ticket if that was the truth but could she have met someone and travelled by private charter from the UK to Luxembourg to get married. Also when Marion came back to Australia her Florabella passport was not used again but this does not mean to say that she didn't change her name again and travel with a new identity. I hope that the NSW police are looking into every avenue of travel options including private charters, freight companies, and commercial airlines. The Trans-Siberian Railway railway is also of interest to me as a way to part travel from Australia back to the UK as per article I shared previously. UK to Australia without flying - how to do it.

 

[SaintGertrude]

I have put something out there on the "how to disappear" private conversation format for sharing information if anyone wants to take a look.

 

[SaintGertrude]

I have put something out there on the "how to disappear" private conversation format for sharing information if anyone wants to take a look.

Another of those co-incidental rabbit holes we all go down by the looks of things.

 

[Tintenbar]

Alternative schools, Steiner and Montessori education on the Gold Coast
https://www.movingtothegoldcoast.co...er-and-montessori-education-on-the-gold-coast

 

[SaintGertrude]

Alternative schools, Steiner and Montessori education on the Gold Coast
https://www.movingtothegoldcoast.co...er-and-montessori-education-on-the-gold-coast

Are schools not hot on doing CRB checks when they employ a new member of staff. This would be traceable back to the persons real identity as they check that the details on any ID submitted matches the details on the application form. They also ask for full details of all addresses over the past five years. I suppose if Marion wasn't listed as a missing person but as an anomally this may have not been picked up on.

 

[SaintGertrude]

Alternative schools, Steiner and Montessori education on the Gold Coast
https://www.movingtothegoldcoast.co...er-and-montessori-education-on-the-gold-coast

The former headmaster where Marion taught had an aneurism and passed away before he could be spoken too about any job references he may have done for Marion. He may have held a vital clue to all of this.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

The former headmaster where Marion taught had an aneurism and passed away before he could be spoken too about any job references he may have done for Marion. He may have held a vital clue to all of this.

I've always wondered why we didn't hear from his secretary. Nothin. She would have known about all the goings on.