Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #7

[roland625]

It is possible that Sally doesn’t want this streamed remembering this is the first time she will be hearing directly from RB and the closest she has come it’s a lot to digest.

That wouldn't be a valid legal reason for closing the court.

 

[Nnbee]

Alison Sandy's Twitter account with video: https://twitter.com/alisonsandy/status/1493000324361371648?s=20&t=yxG6PpFu6m4IsDz9ysNKFg.

https://twitter.com/alisonsandy/status/1493000324361371648?s=20&t=yxG6PpFu6m4IsDz9ysNKFg

Watching this footage made me sick. If he pulls some bs too old to stand trial or memory loss bs I wouldn’t be surprised. I have this gut feeling he will be a fraudster to the grave

 

[caitlincurious]

Watching this footage made me sick. If he pulls some bs too old to stand trial or memory loss bs I wouldn’t be surprised. I have this gut feeling he will be a fraudster to the grave

Possibly - but sometimes conmen cannot resist a little bit of indulgence in how successful they have been...

 

[Derleedl]

Possibly - but sometimes conmen cannot resist a little bit of indulgence in how successful they have been...

So true

 

[Estelle]

Yes he did! But that also could be because it’s the first time he has done a high profile case that could potentially hit screens worldwide and become podcast etc. It would be such a weird feeling.

Lawyer for RB's wife and children

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[Derleedl]

That wouldn't be a valid legal reason for closing the court.

I would suggest it is due to preserve the ability of a fair trial, should it ensue.

 

[Nnbee]

I kind of expected him to dress a bit more suave and European. Still having the image of a successful businessman who travels etc. Not some regular degula aussie retiree who shows up at the RSL at 4pm for the $8 roast beef special.

 

[KiwiNZ]

It is possible that Sally doesn’t want this streamed remembering this is the first time she will be hearing directly from RB and the closest she has come it’s a lot to digest. Her search and life has been so very public that much and all as I like all of us are busting to hear what RB and Diane have to say.. for Sally this isn’t curiousity or websleuthing it’s her mum.

I think Sally would prefer it to be streamed in case it helps others come forward, or more information - but that is just my take on it

It must be sooo horrible for her

 

[vivienbee]

It's so strange seeing this guy as an elderly man.

 

[KiwiNZ]

Watching this footage made me sick. If he pulls some bs too old to stand trial or memory loss bs I wouldn’t be surprised. I have this gut feeling he will be a fraudster to the grave

was that his wife ?

they all roll out the walker when it comes to trial !!!!

 

[Derleedl]

I kind of expected him to dress a bit more suave and European. Still having the image of a successful businessman who travels etc. Not some regular degula aussie retiree who shows up at the RSL at 4pm for the $8 roast beef special.

OMG - LOL! I thought the exact same thing! Hahaha

 

[Deleted member 249471]

On the topic of security envelopes for those who asked...

Casselden went on about them, in detail but did not explain or insinuate their meaning. It was simply to determine that RB had many, throughout the years. Some where in his and Dianne's name, and then were in his name only. Casselden tried to get to the bottom of what size they were, to get an idea of what could be put in them.

We learned that RB used the CBA and that he purchased one on 14 Oct 1997 (something like that). That's pretty much all that was said.

What is interesting is that the podcast revealed that the inquest brief of evidence contains a CBA document that a 'electronic funds transfer' was made on the 14 Oct 1997 in relation to Marion. We don't know any more.

We suspect that due to being the same date, Marion's transfer and RB's securities envelope might have something to do with one other.

If anyone else has more, please elaborate

 

[caitlincurious]

On the topic of security envelopes for those who asked...

Casselden went on about them, in detail but did not explain or insinuate their meaning. It was simply to determine that RB had many, throughout the years. Some where in his and Dianne's name, and then were in his name only. Casselden tried to get to the bottom of what size they were, to get an idea of what could be put in them.

We learned that RB used the CBA and that he had one on 14 Oct 1997 (something like that). That's pretty much all that was said.

What is interesting is that the podcast revealed that the inquest brief of evidence contains a CBA document that a 'electronic funds transfer' was made in the 14 Oct 1997 in relation to Marion. We don't know anymore.

We suspect that due to being the same date, Marion's transfer and RB's securities envelope might have something to do with each other.

If anyone else has more, please elaborate

Thank you Peralta, that's really useful. So I guess the implication is that one of these envelopes ties him to Marion or one of the bank transfers?

P.s. the Latin meaning of your name is not lost on me...!

 

[KiwiNZ]

sorry he clearly does not need that walker lol

 

[Deleted member 249471]

I kind of expected him to dress a bit more suave and European. Still having the image of a successful businessman who travels etc. Not some regular degula aussie retiree who shows up at the RSL at 4pm for the $8 roast beef special.

I imagine his lawyer told him to dress down, look regular and unassuming, and not give any indication of being suave Who me? I'm just a lil ol man with a walking frame.

 

[KiwiNZ]

 

[Estelle]

For your reference (Casselden it not Sally's lawyer):

Adam Casselden – representing the Coroner, puts the inquest together and presents it to the court
Bradley Smith from Addisons – representing Sally Leydon, family of missing person Marion Barter
Kim Burke – representing NSW Police Commissioner, Garry Sheehan and Graham Childs
Bridget Kennedy – representing Ric Blum
Sam Saadat – representing the de Hedervary's, Dianne (nee Walker) and children Maite Chusan and David Gordon.

It looks as if David, his son, has changed his surname and Maite has married so her surname has changed.

 

[Derleedl]

RB arriving at court https://fb.watch/b9jwuC3_oP/

Is the lady in the white (walks past at 0.03) Diane?

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Thank you Peralta, that's really useful. So I guess the implication is that one of these envelopes ties him to Marion or one of the bank transfers?
P.s. the Latin meaning of your name is not lost on me...!

Yes, we can assume he hid jewellery, titles deeds, money, and his fake IDs in them, and possibly artwork in the bigger ones...

Lol, all the good detective names were taken so I settled for Andy Samberg's character on Brooklyn Nine-Nine

 

[Nnbee]

I imagine his lawyer told him to dress down, look regular and unassuming, and not give any indication of being suave Who me? I'm just a lil ol man with a walking frame.

yes good thinking! Part of a plan. He seems to play that part so well. The sandals too
Maybe I expected him to be like Anna Delvey or the Tinder Swindler where they were continuing the arrogance the whole way.