Just to add this is from the podcast I have linked up thread
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go on. I've had a couple of different pieces of commentary come at me over the last six or so hours talking about the
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police response. And I understand from what I've been told that it was 9 minutes from the first shot
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to the last shot being fired when they're killed or one of them are killed.
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A lot now the other argument is well the police are only up the road or there were police working operationally at the
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time. What I'd like to try to get across is that if I am out there operating as a
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police officer, they will certainly hear those shots. But I've spoke to people this morning
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that were on the beach yesterday. They were coming out of the surf and I was talking to one particular lady and she
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said to me that um she first thought it was fireworks that was going off and then it kicked in to go. It's daytime.
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Yeah. That doesn't that doesn't compute. And then it's said she said to herself
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well it sounds like a gun. And I said how long did it take you to actually resonate to go it is a gun? She goes
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minute and a half. So I I say that in that it's that idealic Sunday afternoon and no one's
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anticipating it. Now let's look at it the police perspective, right? Is they are there on the beach or they are on
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route. They would be getting bombarded with
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multiple reports of of a shooter or shooters. Y I I would have no doubt there would
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would have been confusion about the number of shooters that were active. There would have been absolutely
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confusion. I would imagine around the type of weapon and why that becomes important Gary as you know
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is that am I driving into someone armed with a pistol a Glock for example or am
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I driving into as I was into someone who's got a long arm um that we we've seen there from the
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footies that one of the fellows had on one of the rifles had a scope uh so that can obviously be designed to pick you
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off from from a greater distance. So, all of these things are going through the police's mind in terms of where are
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they going to park? Where are they going to pull up? The offenders are on the go. How do they get across to them? And and
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I've seen footage of a young female constible that was sort of leaprogging up the side of the cars to get at one of
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the offenders. Um mean so overall, you know, people can say, "Well, it's the police's job. You that's what you signed
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up to do." Yeah, it is. And I got won't argue that. Don't argue that. But, you know, look,
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they still leapt into the fire from all of the evidence that I've seen. They still went at it knowing full well that
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they could pay and there's two police that are that have been injured and they did what they had to do. Um, and I think
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to date, unless anyone can come forward with any other suggestion of any any other behavior by the cops, I think
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they've done a hell of a job. Now, is the 9 minutes a long time? It would be. It is if you're sitting out there
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getting shot at, but compound that to the police because if the police come in
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hard and fast and get taken out in the first few minutes, they're of no help to anyone. They haven't achieved
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Nothing at all. Well, I think the way you described it there, it outlines the complexity of of
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what happens in a situation like that that hindsight's a wonderful thing. We're we're all experts in hindsight.
Taken from the transcript of the video & talking is former counter terrorism detective Peter Moroney
www.bbc.co.uk
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