Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #6

[minime9]

You may not like it, but it is allowed. I have a client who pays rent once a year. The whole year at once. It is a legit rent payment of the correct amount. It is his choice to do that. And the landlord/owner loves it.

The ATO does not check for monthly, fortnightly, or weekly payments, or care. They are only interested in the annual records.

It wouldn’t bother me if they were legitimate tenants... it’s just that they’re not.

I also suspect that for some years no rent was paid & MC was just paying the mortgage yet she was also taking advantage of it tax wise.

Sorry for not being clear, but it seems suss to me & I’m trying to understand it.

 

[OwlHeart]

A few days ago, a (paywalled) article went up about John Ibrahim popping around to look at Melissa's house, two Fridays ago.
The journos who were waiting outside saw him. He 'greeted' the reporters. (He lives just around the corner.)
The article has been pulled down now - I just looked for it again - but I had copied the content anyway.

The only thing that I can find is a couple of google previews of it, and it is under a different title now. The title reflects what is in the link where the bit about John Ibrahim used to be.

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The actual article also posted a pic of Melissa and AK, and a separate pic of Ibrahim.

Just thought maybe one or two people might be interested to hear that.

I saw that a few nights ago and was eagerly awaiting a new thread to appear so I could talk about it with the group, I've only just now found this one and I'm probably not going to post much, for various reasons.

I don't think DI Atkins thought Melissa was coming back either. And I got the vibe that it wasn't because she thought Melissa leaped.
Her implorements that they just "need to find Melissa", repeated again and again.

I found that press conference disturbing, something off with that detective imo

 

[SouthAussie]

It wouldn’t bother me if they were legitimate tenants... it’s just that they’re not.

I also suspect that for some years no rent was paid & MC was just paying the mortgage yet she was also taking advantage of it tax wise.

Sorry for not being clear, but it seems suss to me & I’m trying to understand it.

For all intents and purposes they are legitimate tenants. Rent is seen to be paid, a mortgage is paid.

Many people rent from their family, with whatever arrangement is made.

It might be one of the only legitmate things Melissa did. And it provided a nice home for her parents, and a tax break for herself.

Her parents would know what the arrangement was, for sure. One hand was washing the other, as they would say. They all benefitted.

 

[SouthAussie]

I found that press conference disturbing, something off with that detective imo

Nothing off with DI Atkins. imo
She seemed very concerned for Melissa, and couldn't reveal too much.
I wish we'd see more of her, instead of Mick Willing.

 

[minime9]

You may not like it, but it is allowed. I have a client who pays rent once a year. The whole year at once. It is a legit rent payment of the correct amount. It is his choice to do that. And the landlord/owner loves it.

The ATO does not check for monthly, fortnightly, or weekly payments, or care. They are only interested in the annual records.

It wouldn’t bother me if they were legitimate tenants... it’s just that they’re not.

I also suspect that for some years no rent was paid & MC was just paying the mortgage yet she was also taking advantage of it tax wise.

Sorry for not being clear, but it seems suss to me & I’m trying to understand it.

For all intents and purposes they are legitimate tenants. Rent is seen to be paid, a mortgage is paid.

Many people rent from their family, with whatever arrangement is made. I have a few friends that rent from family. A father who rents from his son, a sister who rents from her brother. A mother who rents from her daughter .. the payment is babysitting services. I believe that money only changes hands on paper. A payment for babysitting, returned as a payment for rent. It is legitimately allowed.

It might be one of the only legitmate things Melissa did. And it provided a nice home for her parents, and a tax break for herself.

Her parents would know what the arrangement was, for sure. One hand was washing the other, as they would say. They all benefitted.

I get that & I have no problem with people renting from family members if it’s legitimate. It’s just that she’s able to get a tax advantage by doing that when the mortgage is really being paid by investors. The whole thing stinks but it sounds like it’s probably mostly above board so it is what it is.

 

[Kemug]

As someone said a while back, what could have happened to turn Melissa from a lovely schoolgirl (by all accounts) into such an uncaring fraudster? Some situation, or incident, or even brain damage from an accident? (yes, unlikely, I know) As a monk said long ago, "Give me a child until he is 7, and I will give you the man." Meaning that a person's character and personality are formed from a young age. And if Melissa's schoolfriends knew of any divergence from her public persona back then, I should think they would have said so by now. To me her career in fraud says "I'll show you/him/her/them!" But who? And why?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Re her getting fired.

The way she owned up right away to forging signatures made me think that she thought that it was a perfectly ok thing to do.

 

[OwlHeart]

A few days ago, a (paywalled) article went up about John Ibrahim popping around to look at Melissa's house, two Fridays ago.
The journos who were waiting outside saw him. He 'greeted' the reporters. (He lives just around the corner.)
The article has been pulled down now - I just looked for it again - but I had copied the content anyway.

The only thing that I can find is a couple of google previews of it, and it is under a different title now. The title reflects what is in the link where the bit about John Ibrahim used to be.

View attachment 287355 View attachment 287356

The actual article also posted a pic of Melissa and AK, and a separate pic of Ibrahim.

Just thought maybe one or two people might be interested to hear that.

I saw that a few nights ago and was eagerly awaiting a new thread to appear so I could talk about it with the group, I've only just now found this one and I'm probably not going to post much, for various reasons.

I don't think DI Atkins thought Melissa was coming back either. And I got the vibe that it wasn't because she thought Melissa leaped.
Her implorements that they just "need to find Melissa", repeated again and again.

I found that press conference disturbing, something off with that detective imo

I'd be digging up the house. Nothing says she left that house, except a kid who thought he heard the door open , or close, at 5.30am.

Nothing seen leaving the house, the street, the suburb, the state or the country.[/QUOTE I'd check those shakes out. I'd check everything out, in pursuit of the truth so that justice had the best chance of prevailing.
But that's just me and I'm not sure how many like me are in L.E

 

[OwlHeart]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...shed-up-on-malabar-beach-20210306-p578ez.html

So many things washing up lately.

 

[OwlHeart]

Hi

 

[SLouTh]

New article Daily Telegraph ....
Lack of barnacles indicates Caddick alive after disappearance, expert says
An expert in acquatic forensics says the shoe discovered on a beach which belonnged to conwoman Melissa Caddick should have been more covered with things from the ocean.

Paraphrased here:
NSW police are now assembling a team of experts to examine the shoe with the findings to be forwarded to the coroner.

One of those experts is Dr Paolo Magni of Murdoch University
Based on his experience, Dr Magni would have expected something on the shoe

The shoe has been floating in water that is pretty warm with a lot of plankton, full of little creatures that are extremely active because of the warm water.

He says if the shoe had been floating since November he would expect barnacles. Barnacles can attach on a shoe in 15 days in his experience.”

If the shoe was underwater protected perhaps in a plastic bag or submerged in a car there is less chance of barnacles maybe.

Dr Magni said “An anthropologist would work on the bones and any flesh, someone like me would work on the shoe, and experts on tides and currents and water temperatures would also have to be consulted,” .

Takes a lot of people and a lot of collaboration with each expert to bring their own specialty training to the table.

/www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts/lack-of-barnacles-indicates-caddick-alive-after-disappearance-expert-says/news-story/48b405e041bb6f38589b0e2502d755c7

***** Please note spelling in the heading is as it has been published ....

 

[SLouTh]

Free version of article here
Forensic expert claims Melissa Caddick's Asic shoe should have had more marine growth on it | Daily Mail Online

 

[PingTheRouter]

just read the article

its basically what a lot of us theorized already that the shoe didn't match what a normal shoe in the water for that long would look like

its very possible for a period of time she was alive and hiding and maybe the pressure got too much for her, this is maybe why AK was so calm and collected when he first spoke to police and was interviewed several times just after she went missing

 

[JLZ]

Free version of article here
Forensic expert claims Melissa Caddick's Asic shoe should have had more marine growth on it | Daily Mail Online

New South Wales police are currently compiling a team of experts to analyse the shoe, with their findings to be sent to the Coroner.

'An anthropologist would work on the bones and any flesh, someone like me would work on the shoe, and experts on tides and currents and water temperatures would also have to be consulted,' Dr Magni said.

It sounds to me like the team of analysts hasn't been created and put to work yet, and therefore Dr Magni is commenting on the basis of a photograph.

 

[SouthAussie]

just read the article

its basically what a lot of us theorized already that the shoe didn't match what a normal shoe in the water for that long would look like

its very possible for a period of time she was alive and hiding and maybe the pressure got too much for her, this is maybe why AK was so calm and collected when he first spoke to police and was interviewed several times just after she went missing

It is also possible that a partner/collaborator tracked her down while Melissa was hiding. Perhaps she ran and hid for that very reason.

There are a few options on the table here, as far as I can see.

I wonder if the panel of experts will be able to determine if the shoe had been protected in a bag of some description, or if it went - unprotected - into the ocean at a very recent time.

 

[JLZ]

It is also possible that a partner/collaborator tracked her down while Melissa was hiding. Perhaps she ran and hid for that very reason.

I wonder if the panel of experts will be able to determine if the shoe had been protected in a bag of some description, or if it went into the ocean at a very recent time.

BBM. There also seems to be an assumption that the shoe could not have travelled the distance by water in a much shorter time than three months. I wonder if one of the scientists the media's got hold of could be explicit on that.

 

[Mr Murphy]

BBM. There also seems to be an assumption that the shoe could not have travelled the distance by water in a much shorter time than three months. I wonder if one of the scientists the media's got hold of could be explicit on that.

The currents along the east coast can be up to 7 kilometres an hour. If it travelled unobstructed, it could have theoretically travelled that distance in as little as 58 hours.
I feel that for her to end up so far south she would have to either have come to grief a lot further out to sea (a kilometre or so) at Dover heights area or off the south coast somewhere...

 

[Estelle]

just read the article

its basically what a lot of us theorized already that the shoe didn't match what a normal shoe in the water for that long would look like

its very possible for a period of time she was alive and hiding and maybe the pressure got too much for her, this is maybe why AK was so calm and collected when he first spoke to police and was interviewed several times just after she went missing

Food for thought

IMO Somebody who was "in the know" between after the raid and before the media announced it, was asked by MC to drive her to her hideaway. She would not have gone on public transport. AK's Audi nor her car would have been used. As we have found out recently that she went to the Mollymook area on school camps, it is very likely an isolated Airbnb was booked in a different name for 3 months in advance like this one at Bournda Beach.

Holiday Rentals, Homes, Experiences & Places - Airbnb

Also a rental car could have been hired during or after the raid. Food, shakes and other essentials taken so she did not have to shop, maybe if she went in a hurry, she simply wore the clothes she had on on the day of the raid - hence her ASICS were probably the only shoes she took - no Dior high heels needed. Keys are often just left in a secret place - so no need to meet the owner or real estate agent. Then this person/s went back to see her a few weeks before the shoe was found to ask her where all her money had gone, or angry with her that he/they would be implicated in her fraud, she then went into a narcissistic rage and violence occurred.

In this scenario, I am working on the theory that MC died about two weeks before the shoe was found as there were no barnacles on the shoe and decomposition was in process. This also suggests to me that the rest of her body could have been buried then. But the perpetrator decided that it would be a good idea to dislodge one of her feet from her decomposing body and plant it on this isolated beach. This could have been done to make it look as if the foot/shoe was washed into shore so police would assume she committed suicide.

Of course, there are three other possible scenarios:
1. Body was frozen in a very large freezer until the perpetrator decided to dump the body or had to be dismembered - hence the foot was cut off.
2. MC went swimming and drowned in large waves but how did the foot/shoe dislodge?
3. MC suicided by jumping off a cliff.

But, if she was suicidal, was MC able to get rid of the things she took with her before the owner or cleaner came to get the house ready for the next tenants? Otherwise, the perpetrator/s would have cleaned up afterwards and hidden the keys again perhaps leaving no trace - except for the cadaver dogs.

If I were the police I would be making enquiries in the Bournda Beach area.

 

[PingTheRouter]

I wonder if the panel of experts will be able to determine if the shoe had been protected in a bag of some description, or if it went - unprotected - into the ocean at a very recent time.

there is testing they can do but they are limited to the shoe really, because the foot itself is covered in the shoe, so you'd have to hope contact surface testing could pick up something from the shoes surface

its easier done when its skin on a dead body you have skin changes and things like that which could represent it being covered or on ice

if she was put on ice its possible to see damaged skin cells on the foot though, as when you freeze flesh the ice damages the flesh

 

[they'll get you]

The currents along the east coast can be up to 7 kilometres an hour. If it travelled unobstructed, it could have theoretically travelled that distance in as little as 58 hours.
I feel that for her to end up so far south she would have to either have come to grief a lot further out to sea (a kilometre or so) at Dover heights area or off the south coast somewhere...

Throughout summer Sydney has a southerly every few days, most of our winds come from the west and less frequent are the winds from the east.
I'm expecting the shoe more likely should have floated out to sea.
In one photo the shoe looked like it was semi filled with sand so it might have been thown along the beach for some time.
I honestly can't see any reason how the small bones of a foot were kept within the shoe especially with the waves rolling it into then onto the shore. jmo.