Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #6

[stormbird]

<RSBM>Don’t forget she also had employees, her own chef, cleaners etc.

But did she have employees (other than hiring the personal chef)? I haven't seen anything about cleaners, and the only reference I've seen to office employees was a post back in the threads somewhere (threads now gone) which was linking to an article. I can't remember what the article was or what it said, I just remember wondering if it had been misinterpreted because I could see an alternative meaning too where it was not saying Melissa had employees.

 

[OwlHeart]

You’re no liability Owl in fact I like your enthusiasm.

 

[Brissie Sleuth]

Really does seem that MC was possibly using that time to quickly shuffle money from the accounts that were not yet found and to disappear.

all the bank transactions have been looked at so they wouldve picked up any transfers on that date . Asic also froze her bank accts on the 10th of Nov and she went missing on the 12th. also her computers etc wouldve been confiscated by then so access wouldve been limited.

 

[OwlHeart]

You could put that at the bottom of everything you write to cover yourself as I do. You have to set that up in your profile.

Thankyou Estelle that is helpful

 

[OwlHeart]

It looks as if most of you are now agreeing with at least some of the scenario I posted about a week ago.
That is that AK could have been the one who drove MC to the Bournda Beach area to hide away where MC had attended a school camp.
Most of us have now agreed that he would not have driven her there in his Audi as that would have stood out.
My theory was that he hired a car for the purpose. But could he have used her Mercedes instead?
They could have left after OC went to school but could he have been back home before OC arrived home from school?

This journey Dover Heights to Bournda Beach would have taken 5 hr 55 min (451.9 km) via Princes Hwy/A1
So he would have needed at least 12 hours just for the driving.
If they left at 5.30am when OC heard the door bang, AK would not have been back home until 5.30pm if he just drove her there, turned around and drove back again straight away.
You would not expect OC to lie on AK's or his mother's behalf. So if AK or MC did not bang the door, who did?
I guess you could argue that OC is old enough to let himself into the house after school.
Have the police asked OC if AK was home when he arrived home from school?

Could AK and MC have left soon after the raid and AK arrived home at 5.30am?
Assuming they left as early as 8.30pm, and the return journey took 12 hours, AK could not have arrived home until 8.30am so who banged the door at 5.30am?

So perhaps a possible scenario is that when AK got up that morning and MC was not around, AK might have asked OC where his mother was. OC tells him that he heard the door bang at 5.30am so they both assumed she had gone for a walk. But when she did not return before OC went to school, AK might have told OC that he would drive around to "all her favourite spots" and if he was not home when he arrived home from school, not to worry as he could still be out looking for her. In this case, MC might have been up and banged the door so that OC would hear it and think she had gone for a walk. She then hid from OC and did not emerge until after he went to school. Then AK and MC left. Now I would imagine that OC could have been worried about his mother all day and at least could have phoned his father or his grandparents to ask them had they heard from MC as AK was not at home when he arrived home from school? But, as AK could have warned him that he might not be home, perhaps he did not worry.

The rental car and isolated accommodation (for 3 months? with keys in a lockbox) could have been booked the night after the raid and food and shakes, etc taken.

What do you think?

Can you book rental cars and accommodation without confirming your identity?

Accommodation maybe but car no.

Fake i.d would be just as risky because of the inevitable media coverage.

 

[OwlHeart]

Body language OwlHeart, did you notice the pause AK did when a reporter asked about the party?

I don't know if I've seen what you refer to. Was there only one presser? If so, I watched it once but it disturbed me so I didn't watch it again.
But now, in the name of Sleuthing, I will so I can answer your question.

 

[OwlHeart]

There’s 3 vehicles that I’ve seen.
Merc
Audi
4x4 - why would they need a rock climber and where did they use it?

The 4x4, what colour?

 

[OwlHeart]

Many get paranoid and think the cops leave bugs everywhere. The music might’ve been on to cover some planning.

What was OC doing that evening?

 

[OwlHeart]

From dawn to dusk ASIC went through the place like a packet of salts.
Stuff was taken and funds were frozen.
How can they remain calm?
I really hope the child was protected.

They went to bed as normal.

Melissa was so calm she supposedly jumped off a cliff.
I’m yelling BS.


“The f---wit hasn’t told us anything,”
(No love lost there)

“.... he hadn’t contacted her family,”

You’d think Melissa needed her mum and dad but he didn’t call to see if she was there.

Good one.

 

[SouthAussie]

But did she have employees (other than hiring the personal chef)? I haven't seen anything about cleaners, and the only reference I've seen to office employees was a post back in the threads somewhere (threads now gone) which was linking to an article. I can't remember what the article was or what it said, I just remember wondering if it had been misinterpreted because I could see an alternative meaning too where it was not saying Melissa had employees.

I don't think Melissa had employees either. Not for her business.

I think she had a PT and a chef she employed. And I think that is as far as any 'employees' went.

 

[Brissie Sleuth]

Can you book rental cars and accommodation without confirming your identity?

Accommodation maybe but car no.

yes i doubt this is the scenario as it wouldve left digital breadcrumbs

 

[srper2]

all the bank transactions have been looked at so they wouldve picked up any transfers on that date . Asic also froze her bank accts on the 10th of Nov and she went missing on the 12th. also her computers etc wouldve been confiscated by then so access wouldve been limited.

It wasn't as simple as just freezing her accounts and assuming that was it. Investigators have only recently reported they discovered some of the money, which was not showing in the accounts they initially froze -

The court was told on Monday liquidators had found just $5600 in the 49-year-old’s bank accounts as the investigation by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission into her company Maliver continues.
Vanished businesswoman‘s bank balance revealed

A lawyer assisting the provisional liquidators, Michael Hayter, said there may also be public examinations of auditors, accountants, advisers, lawyers and family members to investigate what further assets exist. The NSW Police fraud squad is also assisting. The case returns to the Federal Court in April.
How Melissa Caddick allegedly splurged people's life savings on luxury goods

Victims of Melissa Caddick's fraud scheme may finally get some of their money back after investigators tracked down most of her ill-gotten gains.
Melissa Caddick's victims may finally get some money back

 

[srper2]

The 4x4, what colour?

Depending on when the pic was taken, the 4x4 could have also belonged to police?

 

[Brissie Sleuth]

Investigators have only recently reported they discovered some of the money, which was not showing in the accounts they initially froze...

The court was told on Monday liquidators had found just $5600 in the 49-year-old’s bank accounts as the investigation by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission into her company Maliver continues.
Vanished businesswoman‘s bank balance revealed
Victims of Melissa Caddick's fraud scheme may finally get some of their money back after investigators tracked down most of her ill-gotten gains.
Melissa Caddick's victims may finally get some money back

yes i believe it was discussed earlier that investors will get back maybe 25c to every dollar as they have found some shares she personally invested in. just the legal hurdle to pursue since its her personal name.

 

[they'll get you]

The 4x4, what colour?

It was white with bull-bar, Toyota? iirc.
The post was deleted with the cleanup.

 

[srper2]

DBM

 

[srper2]

yes i believe it was discussed earlier that investors will get back maybe 25c to every dollar as they have found some shares she personally invested in. just the legal hurdle to pursue since its her personal name.

We can agree to disagree on this one. I don't believe that investigators have already dusted their hands off and stopped looking for other places she has moved money. The have stated they are still looking at checking out the accountants and auditors MC used and are returning to court in April. The accountants and auditors she used apparently had not noticed she was operating under someone else's license and apparently did not notice that the trading documents were quite obviously fake as well.

 

[BlueViolet]

Oh dear. Maybe some can look at suing those accountants. A keen eye that does this sort of thing for a living should have picked up that there were 2 digits short on the commsec paperwork. About operating under someone else’s license, a lot in the industry share licenses under the same ‘umbrella’ apparently. I think MC knew that she could talk her way out of a lot of things. The raid, however, and the freezing of her accounts ... not!

 

[minime9]

...As for the relationship and marriage to AK? Was that something that happened very quickly after MC's first marriage ended, or did MC chasing AK after meeting him on the cruise end her first marriage? What is the probability of meeting a hairdresser on a cruise, falling in love and he also lives in the same city as you do? It certainly seems that AK and MC's marriage was based on materialistic interests. AK was younger than MC but he appeared unconcerned or did not realise that he owned nothing, had no savings and depended completely on MC. He appears to have not cared that he may never have children and had lost contact with his family. MC's brother referred to AK as "the fu#@wit", but AK still preferred to go and stay with MC's parents rather than go back to his own family when the sh#t hit the fan. It really does seem that he believes the money will roll again once the police realise that they were mistaken about MC being a con artist!!!!
It is so sad that MC's son has very likely lost his mother, AK his wife and MC's family have lost a daughter and sister, all over money and extreme greed. I do wonder if someone had really taken their heads out of the clouds and challenged MC about the whole scheme being too good to be true before it reached the point that it did, she may have been able to reel it back in and repay as much as possible and nobody would have disappeared or died.

Yes it is sad. 100% agree. It sounds horrible but I feel more sadness for them than I do for MC herself.

 

[minime9]

But did she have employees (other than hiring the personal chef)? I haven't seen anything about cleaners, and the only reference I've seen to office employees was a post back in the threads somewhere (threads now gone) which was linking to an article. I can't remember what the article was or what it said, I just remember wondering if it had been misinterpreted because I could see an alternative meaning too where it was not saying Melissa had employees.

Yes she did. For Maliver. 2

One of those employees opted to have all of their pay directed to their super & as a consequence found out that they too were scammed.