GUILTY Australia - Morgan Huxley, 31, stabbed to death, Neutral Bay, NSW, 8 Sept 2013 #1

[Strangeworld]

Zoom in on someone's hands. I see weird finger shapes. Perhaps plasters.

I see someone's undone shirt has a red mark on chest. Could be a shaving rash but worth noting. Also flushed face. Nerves.

7th photo down - zoom in on the lower part of the hand - looks like a bandaid to me (someone else might be able to attach a pic to the thread).

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sing-8216mog8217/story-fni0cx12-1226720951868

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I totally agree with you. I keep having to remind myself of the fact that there were 'up to' 14 women he was involved with, and the media has only told us about a few of them. Chances are (unless the police are getting the media to assist) we haven't seen or heard of the woman responsible.

I know right .. it could be some girl we haven't even seen!

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[fruity]

Hmm. I just edited my post above to say:

We know that RP says she was his current girlfriend. Do we know if she was at the engagement party with him?

But then I started thinking more.

If he took someone to the engagement party (any of the 14 girls), could she have been inspired by the romance in the air and dropped a few hints about marriage, then been rebuffed by Morgan? Maybe he decided to break it off and pursue a relationship with someone else.

Or could she have found out about the other women (as Mrs Norris suggested - went ballistic). Perhaps this was the cause of Morgan's bad mood at the bar? Maybe he went to the bar to cool off after a confrontation while she stayed at home and worked herself into a murderous rage?

I would love to know the details of the conversation in the taxi on the way home from the engagement party. It sounds like Morgan was the last to be dropped off.

All MOO and speculation of course, not based on any proof at all.

 

[Nikki_2]

I wonder if the person that stabbed MH lives with someone ? could this person be someone's flatmate ?
Could there be someone out there who noticed this person come home late & with blood smears, cuts or act distraught

Could someone have given a false alibi for someone for protection?

 

[Nikki_2]

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Excellent point, whoever killed Morgan may well have cut themselves.

:websleuther:

In fact I remember reading somewhere it usually happens in stabbings, because most people don't use the right sort of knife, their hands get slippery, and they don't even notice bleeding themselves until later so the perp's DNA is often found.

:cow:

Great point made, if the person had cut themselves, they would have had their blood and MH's on their person,clothes, how would that person have left without leaving blood on places outside the bedroom, doors,handles,
this might not have been an on the spur moment rage crime but planned well ahead, maybe they had a change of clothes in a bag,

I just cannot see someone risk walking out of a building with blood smears &/bleeding not knowing if they are going to bump into someone or not, they cared enough not to be caught otherwise they would have already come forward.

Or did the person have to go far at all?

 

[SheepMan]

The other night I was on google and came across an article that named (and I think had a quote from) one of his ex girlfriends whose name I hadn't seen before. Now I can't find it again but I think it was Kate something. It wasn't JO, JR, RP or JH anyway. Has anyone else seen this or remember the name (or initials)?

 

[marlywings]

Folks a reminder....WS doesn't allow posting or discussion of rumours at all.

As for Morgan's flatmate. As per the following link, she has been cleared by police & is NOT up for discussion as being a suspect.

Police said Mr Ucar, a Turkish national, is not considered a suspect, as investigations have established an alibi for him when the crime took place. Ms Redmond has also been cleared of any involvement in her flatmate and friend's death, with police confirming her whereabouts before she arrived home.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-stabbing-victim/story-fni0cx12-1226723178917

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder if the person that stabbed MH lives with someone ? could this person be someone's flatmate ?
Could there be someone out there who noticed this person come home late & with blood smears, cuts or act distraught

Could someone have given a false alibi for someone for protection?

A mother's love will do many things to protect her child.

 

[FigTree]

As would a medical/surgical rep.

Yay! Free Gloves

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I wonder if the person that stabbed MH lives with someone ? could this person be someone's flatmate ?
Could there be someone out there who noticed this person come home late & with blood smears, cuts or act distraught

Could someone have given a false alibi for someone for protection?

I think this is a very good point...

If the stabb er lived with someone... I would imagine s/he would notice the wounds incurred from the stabbing on the stabber's hand (and possibly other parts of the body if the wild stabbing accidentally hit the stabber's own body)...

I imagine LE is investigating this...

JMO

 

[SapphireSteel]

There is a chance this is totally out of left field.

It might be someone Morgan barely even knew, or someone from his past.

Ugh God I don't know, I'm just guessing, that poor guy.

Anyway I personally am fairly sure LE have got this one, they're just building their case.

:twocents:

 

[LegallyBrunette]

Not these days...you just cant get away with it.

He's got a couple of ABNs anyway if you search.

http://abr.business.gov.au/

Hate to break it to you, but people still can and do. Believe me. Not sure the relevance of the other ABN's?:twocents:

 

[SapphireSteel]

Hate to break it to you, but people still can and do. Believe me. Not sure the relevance of the other ABN's?:twocents:

And I'm not sure of the relevance of an ACN?

You only need an ACN if you are going to register your company on the stock exchange.

Otherwise, an ABN is what you require. Morgan had a couple of ABN's so he was a legally registered business.

People can trade cash only, but they can't be successful. No business records = no tax breaks or finance = no growth. IIRC Morgan was quite successful in his business.

It's also highly illegal so there is no benefit to trading cash in a pontoon-building business in Australia, where you need to hire staff, pay wages, etc, let alone paying insurance on public liability of your pontoons, replacement of stolen plant etc.

:seeya:

 

[LegallyBrunette]

And I'm not sure of the relevance of an ACN?

You only need an ACN if you are going to register your company on the stock exchange.

Otherwise, an ABN is what you require. Morgan had a couple of ABN's so he was a legally registered business.

People can trade cash only, but they can't be successful. No business records = no tax breaks or finance = no growth. IIRC Morgan was quite successful in his business.

It's also highly illegal so there is no benefit to trading cash in a pontoon-building business in Australia, where you need to hire staff, pay wages, etc, let alone paying insurance on public liability of your pontoons, replacement of stolen plant etc.

:seeya:

Sorry, you need to read the ASIC site.

Also, his company is a proprietary limited company, not a public company.

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We know nothing about how successful or otherwise he was. There are MSM interviews with a man who employed him as a casual. Here you go:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ehensible-murder/story-e6frg6nf-1226721293561

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Photo with cars in background is the interesting one (37771). :smiliescale:

Very!

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I'm not getting it then .. I see nothing there at all ..

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Folks a reminder....WS doesn't allow posting or discussion of rumours at all.

As for Morgan's flatmate. As per the following link, she has been cleared by police & is NOT up for discussion as being a suspect.

:bump:

 

[Strangeworld]

Morning everyone! My thanks button isn't working (again!). Just saying thanks to everyone's posts.

Just a comment on the ACN and ABN. Often businesses that start making quite a bit of money (doesn't need to be massive amounts) they change to an ACN for tax purposes. Reporting income and profits as a company (ACN) instead of an individual running a business (ABN). Maybe Morgan's business was becoming more successful?

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks Strangeworld … I was just posting this on same topic!

For others who may not understand the ACN/ABN talk … here’s a simplistic interpretation …

ACN would be to separate Morgan’s business interests from his private interests, with regard to Huxley Marine. If Huxley Marine got into financial trouble, they wouldn’t take his private assets to pay Huxley Marine’s debts.

Two ABNs – One as a sole trader under Skip Afloat trading as Huxley Marine, not registered for GST (so current earnings under $75,000 p/a).
The other as a sole trader not registered for GST (again, earnings under $75,000 p/a) and could be for the work he did for other marine companies, or some other type of work (as a contractor, not an employee).

http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByName.aspx?SearchText=morgan+huxley


Not a wealthy man .. one who was plodding steadily along. He could have slipped the odd cash job through IMO, as long as he put enough through the books to satisfy the ATO that he earned/had sufficient money to live whatever lifestyle he lived (if they audited him).

 

[SapphireSteel]

Morning everyone! My thanks button isn't working (again!). Just saying thanks to everyone's posts.

Just a comment on the ACN and ABN. Often businesses that start making quite a bit of money (doesn't need to be massive amounts) they change to an ACN for tax purposes. Reporting income and profits as a company (ACN) instead of an individual running a business (ABN). Maybe Morgan's business was becoming more successful?

• Despite their similarities, the ABN and ACN are intrinsically different. ABN is an acronym of Australian Business number while ACN is used as an acronym of Australian Company Number. An ABN can be issued to all business types including sole trader and partnership registrations, but an ACN can only be assigned to a business that registers as a company
  
• An ACN is issued by the Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC) when a business completes a company registration. The Australian Tax Office is responsible for the issue of an ABN[/B]
  
• Once a company has been issued with an ACN through the Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), they are under no further obligation to obtain an additional ABN. The ACN will suffice for all trading purposes. However, due to the various benefits of having an ABN, most Australian companies secure an ABN.

http://abn.com.au/difference-between-an-abn-and-an-acn/

Morgan was registered as a business (ABN) but because his company was not registered with ASIC, he didn't need an ACN.

Sorry to be pedantic, but he was no Fly By Night cash tax defrauder. He was properly registered as a sole trader. Sole traders do not qualify for, nor require ACNs.