GUILTY Australia - Morgan Huxley, 31, stabbed to death, Neutral Bay, NSW, 8 Sept 2013 #1

[LegallyBrunette]

Well it was the other hand, I just thought that is what they meant .. I think the killer was an ex-girlfriend myself .. I thought that's what posters meant when they said to take a closer look at the photo.

And clearly that's what police think too, they have said they are looking at 'a scorned lover'. Were interviewing around 14 women who were associated with him - and some of their boyfriends, and taking DNA from unspecified persons.
Autopsy gave them certain info about the killer and the weapon.
To touch on JO's remarks in MSM, I believe she said she thought the killer was a woman, but not that she had an idea who it was.
I do think they already have a firm suspect but they have to get it 100% right or the person will walk. And there wasn't a large police presence at the funeral for nothing.
Only a matter of time.:smiliescale:

 

[Strangeworld]

I do not see a bandaid, but of you look at the picture above this one, picture 6, could that be a finger injury? Do you see that????

It's right at the bottom of the palm side of her hand below the little finger. If you zoom in, it's REALLY obvious.

I just want to say I'm not suggesting it has anything to do with the crime. After all, it is just a bandaid. I just found it curious when others were talking about someone else having bandaids on their hands.

Originally Posted by Strangeworld View Post
7th photo down - zoom in on the lower part of the hand - looks like a bandaid to me (someone else might be able to attach a pic to the thread).

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sing-8216mog8217/story-fni0cx12-1226720951868

 

[Strangeworld]

It's right at the bottom of the palm side of her hand below the little finger. If you zoom in, it's REALLY obvious.

I just want to say I'm not suggesting it has anything to do with the crime. After all, it is just a bandaid. I just found it curious when others were talking about someone else having bandaids on their hands.

Originally Posted by Strangeworld View Post
7th photo down - zoom in on the lower part of the hand - looks like a bandaid to me (someone else might be able to attach a pic to the thread).

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sing-8216mog8217/story-fni0cx12-1226720951868

Ok, first attempt at uploading a pic.

Edit: Oh dear! Anyone suggest how to take a pic from the internet, zoom in and save the zoomed in bit? :lol:

 

[Strangeworld]

Ok, first attempt at uploading a pic.

Edit: Oh dear! Anyone suggest how to take a pic from the internet, zoom in and save the zoomed in bit? :lol:

Take 2!

 

[michael]

Hey all, back after a couple of days taking care of life...

Re the business registration discussions... a bit of local knowledge might help:
I have little knowledge of the different legal bit & pieces of registering businesses and trademarks etc etc, but I have an intimate knowledge of the harbour having grown up on boats and marinas in the harbour, and I have many many friends who are harbour entrepreneurs, just as MH was. As Mrs G said earlier, a harbour pontoon building business in it's early stages would be little more than a one man trade, and he probably would have hired the odd extra labourer whenever a bigger job came along.
Cash trading happens everywhere on the harbour, with deals being done off the books all the time, including cash labour - there are plenty of rascals floating around on the barges and marinas in the harbour who do odd bits of cash work (and legitimate work too) here and there for different harbour operators.
The benefit of the various business registrations would most likely be to legitimise income and to be able to tender for jobs with larger businesses who may require it (and exactly what registrations would be needed for what, I don't know).

 

[SouthAussie]

Take 2!

You did it! That’s pretty interesting. Could be nothing, but could be something. Some people have good skills with makeup/stage makeup too.

(Now can you just make the photo a lot bigger and clearer? :giggle: )

 

[Strangeworld]

You did it! That’s pretty interesting. Could be nothing, but could be something. Some people have good skills with makeup/stage makeup too.

(Now can you just make the photo a lot bigger and clearer? :giggle: )

Stop laughing South Aussie! :lol: I thought the second one worked until I realised it's not creating a thumbnail to click on - I'll say it again - oh dear!!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Take 2!

Great Job, Strangeworld! :thumb:

 

[Strangeworld]

Take 3?

 

[SouthAussie]

Take 3?

Looks like it could be a bandaid that has bled through a little (see the dark line in the middle of it?)

Definitely a lump/bump in a place where the hand is usually smooth.

Yes, great work Strangeworld!

 

[michael]

A mother's love will do many things to protect her child.

Hypothetical scenario and question regarding police investigations, hopefully some of you more seasoned WSers might offer suggestions...
I've read in some true crime stories about how the police may not publicly name a suspect. But in doing the investigation, they make their presence overtly felt around one of the main players in the story (who often turns out to be the prime suspect, but that's beside the point).
So for example, parking outside a persons house and making sure the person can see they're there, or driving slowly along side them while they walk down the road... Or setting up a command post, not at the crime scene but right beside the persons house, even if it's a bit of a distance from the crime scene.

My question is, what does this type of behavior by the police mean? What do they hope to achieve by it?
Is it possibly to send a message to housemates or family etc to disclose anything they know? Or to scare someone into confessing? (just my guesses only, but genuinely curious as to how LE strategically go about their investigation).

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Oh no doubt there is a profiler behind all the public police moves .. someone will have assessed the crime and likely candidate and be advising them on how to conduct certain things. Confessions are best in any scenario.

 

[michael]

Looks like it could be a bandaid that has bled through a little (see the dark line in the middle of it?)

Definitely a lump/bump in a place where the hand is usually smooth.

Yes, great work Strangeworld!

Not sure about it being a band-aid, doesn't seem natural put a band-aid on running lengthways along the side of the hand (if I'm looking at it right),
Perhaps it's a raised burn from a hot stove or a saucepan lid...?

ETA - I was looking at it wrong... now I see the placement of the (possible) bandaid the way the rest of you are!

 

[Strangeworld]

Not sure about it being a band-aid, doesn't seem natural put a band-aid on running lengthways along the side of the hand (if I'm looking at it right),
Perhaps it's a raised burn from a hot stove or a saucepan lid...?

The pic isn't that clear, but have a look at the colour and tone of that part of the hand. It's definitely something not of natural skin tone. And the shape fits with a bandaid - rectangular with the raised part in the middle (like the soft padding on the inside of a bandaid).

If I had an injury on that part of my hand, that's the direction I would put it - running the other way it would pull away as the hand bends and moves.

All IMO

 

[Ausgirl]

Well, that's the best possible use for a profiler, really - insight into a killer's head can give police the right 'weapon' to use in forcing the killer to make a mistake. In the majority of cases (given that the vast majority of murders are committed by 'ordinary people' and not psychotic serial killers), the killer will be carrying a huge burden of worry (if not guilt) so putting pressure on them in just the right way could lead to a confession, lead to someone close to them coming forward with info, all kind of helpful things. Maybe just even the mistake of bolting for the hills..

If police home in on a suspect to that degree, there's a pretty good indication that they're onto something.. and may be just waiting for that last bit of confirming evidence, to pounce.

 

[Strangeworld]

Hypothetical scenario and question regarding police investigations, hopefully some of you more seasoned WSers might offer suggestions...
I've read in some true crime stories about how the police may not publicly name a suspect. But in doing the investigation, they make their presence overtly felt around one of the main players in the story (who often turns out to be the prime suspect, but that's beside the point).
So for example, parking outside a persons house and making sure the person can see they're there, or driving slowly along side them while they walk down the road... Or setting up a command post, not at the crime scene but right beside the persons house, even if it's a bit of a distance from the crime scene.

My question is, what does this type of behavior by the police mean? What do they hope to achieve by it?
Is it possibly to send a message to housemates or family etc to disclose anything they know? Or to scare someone into confessing? (just my guesses only, but genuinely curious as to how LE strategically go about their investigation).

I'm no expert on this, but just from experience on here and following cases in MSM, the police are under no obligation to be upfront about who is a suspect. There have been many a case where someone is said to not be a suspect, then the police arrest that person. IMO the police do play mindgames - it's amazing how many criminals will confide in others when they think the pressure is off (or when the pressure is applied for that matter). Also, a potential suspect may change their behaviour as stress increases - make mistakes, act irrationally, etc. There are also some people who will try to immerse themselves in the case/find out information from the police because curiosity gets the better of them - am I a suspect? do they think I'm involved? That sort of thing.

I can't say if the police overtly stake out potential suspects, like cruising by their house and eyeballing them (love those scenes in the movies - so dramatic!). But I'm sure they have many a way to play the cat and mouse game.

 

[SouthAussie]

I thought that I could see an outline of the sticky part of a bandaid on the palm of the hand, pulling the bandaid tight across the lumpy (padded?) area :dunno:

Hard to tell. Good on the photographers though, getting so many varied photos. Wonder if they got even better shots for the police files? Like ones of people that we cannot see in any of the photos .. if they were there.

And I wonder how airtight some of the alibis are?

 

[Humdinger]

Hypothetical scenario and question regarding police investigations, hopefully some of you more seasoned WSers might offer suggestions...
I've read in some true crime stories about how the police may not publicly name a suspect. But in doing the investigation, they make their presence overtly felt around one of the main players in the story (who often turns out to be the prime suspect, but that's beside the point).
So for example, parking outside a persons house and making sure the person can see they're there, or driving slowly along side them while they walk down the road... Or setting up a command post, not at the crime scene but right beside the persons house, even if it's a bit of a distance from the crime scene.

My question is, what does this type of behavior by the police mean? What do they hope to achieve by it?
Is it possibly to send a message to housemates or family etc to disclose anything they know? Or to scare someone into confessing? (just my guesses only, but genuinely curious as to how LE strategically go about their investigation).

IMO all of that Michael, as well as drip feeding MSM to put pressure in people or situations. Also, seemingly putting pressure on one person to make another feel a tad too comfortable IYKWIM.

 

[Strangeworld]

I'm no expert on this, but just from experience on here and following cases in MSM, the police are under no obligation to be upfront about who is a suspect. There have been many a case where someone is said to not be a suspect, then the police arrest that person. IMO the police do play mindgames - it's amazing how many criminals will confide in others when they think the pressure is off (or when the pressure is applied for that matter). Also, a potential suspect may change their behaviour as stress increases - make mistakes, act irrationally, etc. There are also some people who will try to immerse themselves in the case/find out information from the police because curiosity gets the better of them - am I a suspect? do they think I'm involved? That sort of thing.

I can't say if the police overtly stake out potential suspects, like cruising by their house and eyeballing them (love those scenes in the movies - so dramatic!). But I'm sure they have many a way to play the cat and mouse game.

BBM
Just thought of a great example of this - remember Mr Baden Clay's car accident at Indooroopilly shopping centre. :facepalm:

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM
Just thought of a great example of this - remember Mr Baden Clay's car accident at Indooroopilly shopping centre. :facepalm:

Yes, to cover up all those scratches .. that he also said were from caterpillars ... and shaving!