Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #9

I don't think the DPP can appeal a not guilty verdict, they can only appeal a sentence.

And I think that only fresh and compelling evidence will overcome the double jeopardy rule and allow a retrial.


If the jury finds the accused not guilty of the crime, the accused person is free to go. This is called an acquittal. The prosecution cannot appeal against an acquittal.


The only exception to the double jeopardy rule is if the case has fresh and compelling evidence that compels a Court to order a retrial if it is in the interests of justice.
Thanks for that, SA.. the DPP could go forward with the stuff that was not admitted for Carol's murder... then again , taxpayers may be content with one life sentence, and that is reasonable, in one sense.. however, there are taxpayers who are not, and see no problem with one person being convicted for two murders...

R v Carroll comes to mind, re double jeopardy, horrible horrible crime, ...

 
Seems to be the same video I already listened to, except this one says it went up 3 hours ago.

 
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I subscribe to my 3 local major papers because I use them heavily. I'd like to subscribe to a number of the big O/S ones, but with exchange rate and other charges, it becomes pricey for the amount of use.
I subscribe digitally to Herald Sun and still have it delivered, believe it or not.
 
I subscribe to my 3 local major papers because I use them heavily. I'd like to subscribe to a number of the big O/S ones, but with exchange rate and other charges, it becomes pricey for the amount of use.

Just read the daily mail or news.com

Gutter “journalism” but you can sift the wheat from the chaff.

There’s also other methods but I’d get banned if mentioned them.
 
The article is just the content of Justice Croucher’s sentencing. I can’t find the link to that right now but if anyone has it that’s what it is
 
I'm not Tootsie - but, here you go...

Here is part of it - remember whilst Melbourne was in lockdown due to Covid19 - most people were at home and the warrant was running out - they decided to go "in" whilst all family members were present/asleep (including the gamer-son)

IMO - Amazing work, by 3 fit men (phoar) - and no doubt with night-goggles on !! (think TRG - tactical response/SOG's)
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'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn

Normally, after being granted warrants to covertly install surveillance equipment, they would spend a few days monitoring the patterns of the household and identify an hour or two when they could be reasonably certain no one was in the house.

A specialised team would quickly enter and install tiny devices through ceiling cavities and wall cavities. The tips of these devices, each no bigger than a pin, were almost invisible to the naked eye and would sit flush with the wall or the ceiling, having just penetrated the surface.

The devices were connected to a scan detector. Finally, everything had to be hardwired into the powerboard of the house. It was delicate, highly technical work that required time to execute properly. Time alone in the house. But how could they install all this equipment at Lynn’s place when no one was leaving the house, and his son was staying up all night playing video games?
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The only option, the last resort, was a “hot install” – covertly installing the surveillance equipment in the house in the dead of night while people were in it
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At around 1am a dark HiAce glided into Caroline Springs and pulled up opposite the target house. Three fit men slipped out the rear door and walked quietly across the road. Two held small carry-bags, while the third gripped a Bogota rake (a type of lock pick) and a tension wrench, instruments that the team used to neutralise the deadlock on the front door swiftly and silently.

Once inside they worked quickly, precisely and in complete silence in the rooms and the roof cavity while the house’s occupants slept. All except Lynn’s son, who was still on his PlayStation. The real danger was disturbing the boy.

At 3.37am a signal from the living room appeared on the screens of the Comms monitoring room at Missing Persons HQ. Then another from the dining room. Then one from the kitchen … and finally, an excruciating seven-and-a-half minutes later, from the main bedroom. It was all done and the team was out before 4am.
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Edit: This is an edited extract from In the Dead of Night: A Mysterious Disappearance, a Brazen Murderer and the Police Who Hunted Him Down by Greg Haddrick (Allen & Unwin), out on October 29.'
Thanks @Eaglette. Fascinating
 

2.09 minute audio

Pressing for a Coronial Inquest is an interesting idea, however, at this point I can see it being years away if it happens, given the expected appeal process and then the backlog of Coroner's Court cases in VIC -- where I think the wait queue is around 2 years long at the moment.
 
Pressing for a Coronial Inquest is an interesting idea, however, at this point I can see it being years away if it happens, given the expected appeal process and then the backlog of Coroner's Court cases in VIC -- where I think the wait queue is around 2 years long at the moment.
Where is the info about pressing for a coronial inquest? The Sly link states nothing about that, only about Russell Hills daughter taking civil action
 
Where is the info about pressing for a coronial inquest? The Sly link states nothing about that, only about Russell Hills daughter taking civil action

It's right near the start ..... from 38 sec mark.

Well, Darren Bracken - barrister, former homicide detective, and actually former Coroner - stepped up to give some advice, preliminary advice, to Debbie. And, at this point, they'll be pursuing the possibility of asking the Coroner to open an inquest into the death of Russell Hill because of those unexplained answers ....

Also says something about the Hill family getting answers they could only get at an inquest at around the 1:24-ish mark.

Profile of Darren Bracken
 
So they installed their equipment in their house while GL and wife were in bed asleep and their son was in his room playing video games? And none of the residents of the house knew they had even been inside?? That's crazy. And they even installed something in the bedroom where GL and wife were asleep at the time! How is that possible? These devices could be installed with no tools like drills/hammers/etc. needed?? Silent installation, and quick too, amazing.

And then they had the added lucky bonus of him being someone who talked aloud to himself too.

Seems like an unusually clever investigation.
 
It's right near the start ..... from 38 sec mark.

Well, Darren Bracken - barrister, former homicide detective, and actually former Coroner - stepped up to give some advice, preliminary advice, to Debbie. And, at this point, they'll be pursuing the possibility of asking the Coroner to open an inquest into the death of Russell Hill because of those unexplained answers ....

Also says something about the Hill family getting answers they could only get at an inquest at around the 1:24-ish mark.

Profile of Darren Bracken
Thanks, I couldn’t listen only read.
 

A spokesperson for the supreme court confirmed to Guardian Australia that Lynn filed an appeal against his conviction and sentence late on Monday.

The spokesperson said Lynn had also applied for an extension of time application.

Could his extension of time application be denied ?
 

A spokesperson for the supreme court confirmed to Guardian Australia that Lynn filed an appeal against his conviction and sentence late on Monday.

The spokesperson said Lynn had also applied for an extension of time application.

Could his extension of time application be denied ?
Yes... lots of appeals are denied. I cannot find what grounds he is basing his appeal on. .

Mistakes by the judge?

Mistakes by his defence?

Malpractice by the police?

Mistake by the jury ? ( this never succeeds) .
 
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