Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #9

[Trooper]

MSN

The appeal will contest the jury's verdict and the prison sentence imposed by Justice Michael Croucher.

The defence lawyers argued the jury must have travelled down "a forbidden path" and used flawed logic to find Lynn guilty of one murder charge, but not guilty of the other.

During the trial, they also complained about prosecutors breaking rules of procedural fairness by making allegations about Lynn without giving him a chance to respond.

At the time, Lynn's lawyers did not make an application for a mistrial, although Justice Croucher did point out the prosecution errors to the jury before it retired to consider its verdicts.

( Nope. Not going to happen. )

 

[Bats]

Greg Lynn launches appeal over conviction for murdering camper Carol Clay in Victoria’s high country

Former Jetstar pilot seeks to overturn conviction and sentence over killing of 73-year-old in the Wonnangatta Valley

www.theguardian.com

A spokesperson for the supreme court confirmed to Guardian Australia that Lynn filed an appeal against his conviction and sentence late on Monday.

The spokesperson said Lynn had also applied for an extension of time application.

Could his extension of time application be denied ?

I suspect since his lawyers will be lodging on his behalf and the fact its only a few days late, there won't be an issue.

I guess it would actually depend on the reason for the delay.

MOO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

True crime author to discuss new Greg Lynn book at Dargo Hotel this Sunday | Gippsland Times

A BOOK has been released about the High Country deaths of Russell Hill and Carol Clay. Since 1917, five other […]

www.gippslandtimes.com.au

 

[Eaglette]

Herald Sun have this 1hr ago (it's paywalled for me)

He had an alibi of sitting in a pub (of course he did)

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Lisa Lynn died suddenly in 1999 at the Mt Macedon home where she had lived with her husband and their two young children.

The death of the high country killer's first wife, Lisa, is expected to be referred to the State Coroner in a bid for a fresh inquest.

Exclusive: As Greg Lynn sat drinking and reading a book in a Melbourne pub, his wife was dying. This is what he told investigators as he sat.........

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Thanks Eaglette,

Here is the article.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/what-jetstar-pilot-greg-lynn-allegedly-told-his-exwife-lisa-lynn/news-story/4b9b2c3a793e8d379bb5ee68da613dfc?amp

Behind a paywall, I think. Posting it here for those who subscribe

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Wow that article is an eye opener.
I fail at even trying to paraphrase.

But one part says he has a very detailed alibi around the time of his firsts wife's death.
Seemed to be making a point of being seen, and kept receipts for everything.

 

[CredibleSauce]

Wow that article is an eye opener.
I fail at even trying to paraphrase.

But one part says he has a very detailed alibi around the time of his firsts wife's death.
Seemed to be making a point of being seen, and kept receipts for everything.

Detailed stories for everything. Wonder what actually happened that night if this is the version he’s on record willingly telling police:

"What I did was go up to the bedroom while Lisa was still drunk and asked her if she wanted to play a little game,"
"She said yes, so I bound her hands and feet with masking tape and carried her outside into the backyard.
"I put her near the back steps and hosed her down with water from the garden hose. I then sat out there with her and she got extremely cold.
"I then untied her, took her inside, helped dry her off and put her to bed."
"I have told this (story) to a few of our friends and their reactions have been a bit negative,"
“...they seemed to consider it a bit bizarre and cruel".

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The part about taking her outside and wetting her etc, was not when she died.

I'm sure more will come out, especially if there is an inquest.
And this article is making me think that an inquest may very well be likely.

 

[wallyworld]

Wow that article is an eye opener.
I fail at even trying to paraphrase.

But one part says he has a very detailed alibi around the time of his firsts wife's death.
Seemed to be making a point of being seen, and kept receipts for everything.

Certainly is an eye-opener Tootsie! It made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
Interestingly, the receipts were dated the day after Lisa died with Lynn's explanation to the police being "I have a credit card receipt for my purchases at Irish Murphy’s but they are dated the next day, 26/10/99 because I left the card there, and had to return to fix up the account and retrieve my card the next day"

 

[CredibleSauce]

The part about taking her outside and wetting her etc, was not when she died.

Oh yes I know, how he’s telling this to the police with a straight face almost as if he’s proud of it is what baffles me. As if he thinks people are too stupid to notice the pattern of abuse he’s willingly admitting to cause ‘crazy wives amirite’ - every story he tells from his relationship with Lisa, to the “scuffle” with Carol and Russell is nonsensical in practice, but he thinks he’s so clever no one will see through it. IMO etc

 

[wallyworld]

Oh yes I know, how he’s telling this to the police with a straight face almost as if he’s proud of it is what baffles me. As if he thinks people are too stupid to notice the pattern of abuse he’s willingly admitting to cause ‘crazy wives amirite’ - every story he tells from his relationship with Lisa, to the “scuffle” with Carol and Russell is nonsensical in practice, but he thinks he’s so clever no one will see through it. IMO etc

They were my thoughts as well when reading the article: same attitude but different victims.

 

[Gomax]

Interview with author of Greg Lynn book

 

[Bats]

Supreme Court releases details of convicted murderer Greg Lynn's appeal over camper Carol Clay's death

 

[Kemug]

Oh yes, "it is plausible that Ms Clay was accidentally shot". Of course it is, absolutely quite plausible that both of them were accidentally shot, and then poor innocent GL did his best to obliterate them both from the face of the earth. Of course it is.

 

[Bats]

Oh yes, "it is plausible that Ms Clay was accidentally shot". Of course it is, absolutely quite plausible that both of them were accidentally shot, and then poor innocent GL did his best to obliterate them both from the face of the earth. Of course it is.

I have no doubt (since the jury deliberated for eight days) they would have discussed if the extremely slim probability of Lynn's story about how Carol died, could be a truthful one. The collective minds of a Jury would have absolutely known Greg must be lying.

And to the first point in the article, the judge addressed the issues about the contentious statements that the prosecution made, to the point where there was only a narrow path to walk down to find Greg guilty of murder. One has to wonder, if the prosecution hadn't made those statements (thus making the path to a murder conviction made wider and less restricted) what the outcome may have been. My guess is 2 convictions, not no convictions.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Supreme Court releases details of convicted murderer Greg Lynn's appeal over camper Carol Clay's death

Inevitable, wasn't it? But probably for no good reason other than that he could.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I had for a moment, a horrible feeling that he's going to end up "getting away with murder" and walking totally free

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Thanks Eaglette,

Here is the article.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/what-jetstar-pilot-greg-lynn-allegedly-told-his-exwife-lisa-lynn/news-story/4b9b2c3a793e8d379bb5ee68da613dfc?amp

Behind a paywall, I think. Posting it here for those who subscribe

A phone call, noted by a witness, was part of Lynn’s escalating fury during the final months of Lisa's life where she “lived in terror’’ of her husband.

“There’ll be blood in the streets. Your blood will flow. I hate you Lisa. Your blood will flow in the street…..f---ing b--ch,’’ Lyn allegedly told his wife.

Lynn had also allegedly told her he would burn the house down.

"I bound her hands and feet with masking tape and carried her outside into the backyard. I put her near the back steps and hosed her down with water from the garden hose. I then sat out there with her and she got extremely cold."

Chilling stuff. The man is an absolute psychopath.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Apologies if it has been mentioned before but I heard in a podcast that one of the police force's strategies with Greg Lyn fell over because of COVID.

The police bugged Lyn's home, car and phone and were hoping they would catch him confiding with a friend about his involvement in the killings. But they soon came to the realization that he didn't have any friends. Certainly not any close ones, anyway. So the plan became to introduce a 'friend' to his life who might be able to get something out of him.

The search began to find a member of the police force who had the undercover skillset and would be able to relate to Lyn's profile. A member was chosen and he was being briefed about the specifics. Trouble is, he was a WA cop and when the borders closed due to COVID, that plan went out the window because the police couldn't get their man to Victoria.

 

[Kegsfamily]

This was detailed in Greg Haddrick’s book “In the dead of night”. Not sure how true it is as that’s the only place I’ve seen it. There is some fantastical stuff in there.