Australia - Sydney, Lilie James, water polo coach, murdered at elite school, assassin sports assistant Paul Thijssen suicided, 25 Oct 2023

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New article by Candace Sutton, DMA.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Why Paul Thijssen killed himself: 'Panicked' after Lilie James murder

Lilie James' killer Paul Thijssen only ended his own life because he lost control of the vile plan he had inflicted on his young victim following her violent death and 'panicked'.
www.dailymail.co.uk

This was really insightful reading. Apparently Paul Thijssen’s visa was going to run out shortly before he killed Lilie James. It also contains that photo of the killers bedroom, which looks like pure chaos, imo.
 
His bedroom was fine. It looked like he was going quickly through his things, looking for something, and then took off before straightening up. But he could have straightened that up in ten minutes. Meaning, IMO, it doesn't appear that unusual for a young man's room nor tell us anything, except that he wasn't a neat-freak.

It does seem like he planned the murder and suicide. It's interesting he reported it and didn't try to get away with it nor did he value his own life.
 
ChatteringBirds said:
His bedroom was fine. It looked like he was going quickly through his things, looking for something, and then took off before straightening up. But he could have straightened that up in ten minutes.
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Maybe but he didn’t straighten it up. He just left it like that.

ChatteringBirds said:
Meaning, IMO, it doesn't appear that unusual for a young man's room nor tell us anything, except that he wasn't a neat-freak.

It does seem like he planned the murder and suicide. It's interesting he reported it and didn't try to get away with it nor did he value his own life.
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Maybe he reported the crime scene because he wanted to control the narrative.

Maybe he did value his own life but he knew that there would be consequences (which he maybe did not want to face) and also that he would most likely be deported, and imo he didn’t want to go back to his country of origin.

All jmo

BBM
 
Ellery84 said:
New article by Candace Sutton, DMA.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Why Paul Thijssen killed himself: 'Panicked' after Lilie James murder

Lilie James' killer Paul Thijssen only ended his own life because he lost control of the vile plan he had inflicted on his young victim following her violent death and 'panicked'.
www.dailymail.co.uk

This was really insightful reading. Apparently Paul Thijssen’s visa was going to run out shortly before he killed Lilie James. It also contains that photo of the killers bedroom, which looks like pure chaos, imo.
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Perhaps he planned on marrying to aquire an AU citizenship. People do odd things, and that Working VIsa he claims he badgered the Dept. oF F.A.over and over again has been a bit of a red flag to me, for a lot of reasons. One main one being, this job he had, at the school, as assistant coach, ... how did the school manage to claim that no Australian could do that job and it required imported labour?? One of the obligations of a working visa is a specified time, 70 days or something, has to be spent out of the city, in rural and regional AU, even outback AU. It is not for city jobs. This is just a bit of a small niggle but the school must have been a party to this dodgy process. ...

It still puzzles me why he would leave his parents, and his home, his culture, he is supposed to have achieved some sort of business degree in the Netherlands, to come back to AU for this piddly job, more of a hobby, as assistant coach, and expect to live high in Sydney, one of the most expensive cities in the world on that kind of wage? What were the prospects in that job? to rise to coach? Wouldn't the school want qualified coaches? Wouldn't the parents, paying out $50,000 a term for little Peregrine?

Or maybe he had to leave the Netherlands in a hurry. There is always, always a back story.
 
Trooper said:
Perhaps he planned on marrying to aquire an AU citizenship. People do odd things, and that Working VIsa he claims he badgered the Dept. oF F.A.over and over again has been a bit of a red flag to me, for a lot of reasons. One main one being, this job he had, at the school, as assistant coach, ... how did the school manage to claim that no Australian could do that job and it required imported labour?? One of the obligations of a working visa is a specified time, 70 days or something, has to be spent out of the city, in rural and regional AU, even outback AU. It is not for city jobs. This is just a bit of a small niggle but the school must have been a party to this dodgy process. ...

It still puzzles me why he would leave his parents, and his home, his culture, he is supposed to have achieved some sort of business degree in the Netherlands, to come back to AU for this piddly job, more of a hobby, as assistant coach, and expect to live high in Sydney, one of the most expensive cities in the world on that kind of wage? What were the prospects in that job? to rise to coach? Wouldn't the school want qualified coaches? Wouldn't the parents, paying out $50,000 a term for little Peregrine?

Or maybe he had to leave the Netherlands in a hurry. There is always, always a back story.
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that Working VIsa he claims he badgered the Dept. oF F.A.over and over again has been a bit of a red flag to me,


Maybe he should have been on a fixated persons list. Because that’s not normal.

IMO
 
Trooper said:
he is supposed to have achieved some sort of business degree in the Netherlands, to come back to AU for this piddly job, more of a hobby, as assistant coach, and expect to live high in Sydney, one of the most expensive cities in the world on that kind of wage?
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I disagree that there was anything wrong with the job. It would be a dream job for some people, a nice working environment and to get to go live in a city like that.

Sometimes people move to the city of their choice and just hope to figure out how to stay. It's not cheap to live in the Netherlands, either.
I suspect his parents think he was very fond of Sydney, since they're leaving his ashes there.
 
Ellery84 said:
that Working VIsa he claims he badgered the Dept. oF F.A.over and over again has been a bit of a red flag to me,

Maybe he should have been on a fixated persons list. Because that’s not normal. IMO
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Do you know which article that was in? Because I read some but somehow missed that info. too. What does it indicate -- that he really didn't want to have to leave?
 
Ellery84 said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Why Paul Thijssen killed himself: 'Panicked' after Lilie James murder

Lilie James' killer Paul Thijssen only ended his own life because he lost control of the vile plan he had inflicted on his young victim following her violent death and 'panicked'.
www.dailymail.co.uk

This one…
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Thank you. It says he was on his third holiday working visa, but I don't see anything about that being something he or the school finagled into happening.
Perhaps there wasn't a way to get a long-term residency/working allowance but we don't know for sure, right? But if so, maybe it's one factor in his irrational narcissistic act.
 
ChatteringBirds said:
I disagree that there was anything wrong with the job. It would be a dream job for some people, a nice working environment and to get to go live in a city like that.

Sometimes people move to the city of their choice and just hope to figure out how to stay. It's not cheap to live in the Netherlands, either.
I suspect his parents think he was very fond of Sydney, since they're leaving his ashes there.
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There is nothing wrong with the job, per se, and yes, it would be a dream job for some people, but not for people on a temporary working visa, unless the school could show that it was unable to employ an Australian resident. People can move to a city, and hope to figure out how to stay, but unless someone sponsors you, into a job, and housing, in AU, you don't get to do that dream job. Maybe the school sponsored him, which means they paid his health care, and insurance, and tax, and so on, but the school would have to undergo a process whereby they show they exhausted every avenue of trying to get an AU resident to do the job and had to import labour.


https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia This site will explain it more thoroughly, Thijjsen was not a Permanent, or Skilled Occupation, or Short Stay visa seeker.

HIs fondness for Sydney is useless, and also a bit off, really, since he murdered a young Sydney woman for the hell of it, they should consider if Sydney is fond of him, more to the point. More gracious , really, if they just scooped up the ashes and dispensed with them in the North Sea somewhere. Remove all traces from Sydney, so to speak.

'Perhaps there wasn't a way to get a long-term residency/working allowance but we don't know for sure, right? But if so, maybe it's one factor in his irrational narcissistic act.'

But we do know, very well, for sure, how to get a long term residency, and how not to, It's all set out in the statutes. Even marriage to an Australian is not a guarantee, although it carries weight in an assessment, and/or being a father of an Australian child carries weight, but does not guarantee residency.

What is certain, is that, had he lived, and served his sentence , upon release he would have been instantly deported back to the Netherlands, no matter how old or decrepit he was at the time.
 
Ellery84 said:
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The alleged killers parents have not yet collected his ashes from the crematorium.
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Trooper said:
There is nothing wrong with the job, per se, and yes, it would be a dream job for some people, but not for people on a temporary working visa, unless the school could show that it was unable to employ an Australian resident. People can move to a city, and hope to figure out how to stay, but unless someone sponsors you, into a job, and housing, in AU, you don't get to do that dream job. Maybe the school sponsored him, which means they paid his health care, and insurance, and tax, and so on, but the school would have to undergo a process whereby they show they exhausted every avenue of trying to get an AU resident to do the job and had to import labour.


https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia This site will explain it more thoroughly, Thijjsen was not a Permanent, or Skilled Occupation, or Short Stay visa seeker.

HIs fondness for Sydney is useless, and also a bit off, really, since he murdered a young Sydney woman for the hell of it, they should consider if Sydney is fond of him, more to the point. More gracious , really, if they just scooped up the ashes and dispensed with them in the North Sea somewhere. Remove all traces from Sydney, so to speak.

'Perhaps there wasn't a way to get a long-term residency/working allowance but we don't know for sure, right? But if so, maybe it's one factor in his irrational narcissistic act.'

But we do know, very well, for sure, how to get a long term residency, and how not to, It's all set out in the statutes. Even marriage to an Australian is not a guarantee, although it carries weight in an assessment, and/or being a father of an Australian child carries weight, but does not guarantee residency.

What is certain, is that, had he lived, and served his sentence , upon release he would have been instantly deported back to the Netherlands, no matter how old or decrepit he was at the time.
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More gracious , really, if they just scooped up the ashes and dispensed with them in the North Sea somewhere. Remove all traces from Sydney, so to speak.

@Trooper , his parents haven’t even collected his ashes yet. According to the Daily Mail, published today.
 
An inquest into the deaths of murdered water polo coach Lilie James and her ex-boyfriend is set to start on Tuesday, almost 18 months after their bodies were found.

The three-day hearing at Lidcombe in western Sydney is expected to investigate the circumstances leading to both deaths and be presided over by State Coroner Teresa O'Sullivan.

More here…
www.dailymail.co.uk

Probe into brutal murder of beloved young water polo coach and her ex

The three-day hearing at Lidcombe in western Sydney will investigate the circumstances leading to both deaths and be presided over by State Coroner Teresa O'Sullivan.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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