GUILTY Australia - Tanilla Warrick-Deaves, 2, tortured, beaten to death, NSW, 27 Aug 2011
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News Article on Arrest
I find this extraordinary!...
:stormingmad:
I find this extraordinary!...
and this...
Deanes was still stayed with him after he murdered her daughter?!! Not that she's any better(He Who Cannot Be Named) was arrested on Tuesday in the Ourimbah State Forest where he was believed to have been camping with Donna Deaves.
:stormingmad:
Speaking of Pru Goward --- how ironic is it that her right-hand man Jim Moore was just sacked for -- get THIS -- being charged with domestic violence.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/families-...domestic-violence-charges-20130708-2pm6v.html
"The director general of Family and Community Services, Jim Moore, left his job permanently on Monday after being charged with domestic violence offences.
The department deals with victims of domestic violence and child protection services."
ffs....
Goward named his replacement and then said "I will not be commenting further".
WHY NOT, PRU? Jeez. I am sure all of the families who've been failed and/or kicked about by your Dept. would LOVE to know more.
I think this pretty much deserves a thread on its own. :\
Back to Tanilla - yeah, Fig Tree, that blew me away. It's just beyond comprehension, that woman's priorities...
Worrying is that Tanilla has an older sister, omg gorgeous child. And she was with the's as well - from what I have read between the lines, BOTH kids were heard screaming for the beatings to stop...
Not guilty, my antipodal.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/families-...domestic-violence-charges-20130708-2pm6v.html
"The director general of Family and Community Services, Jim Moore, left his job permanently on Monday after being charged with domestic violence offences.
The department deals with victims of domestic violence and child protection services."
ffs....
Goward named his replacement and then said "I will not be commenting further".
WHY NOT, PRU? Jeez. I am sure all of the families who've been failed and/or kicked about by your Dept. would LOVE to know more.
I think this pretty much deserves a thread on its own. :\
Back to Tanilla - yeah, Fig Tree, that blew me away. It's just beyond comprehension, that woman's priorities...
Worrying is that Tanilla has an older sister, omg gorgeous child. And she was with the
's as well - from what I have read between the lines, BOTH kids were heard screaming for the beatings to stop... Not guilty, my antipodal
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It was bad enough when she was the Executive Director of the Office of the Status of Women and then the Sex Discrimination Commissioner.
Then....
Pru Goward - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
... so they put in charge of Familys and Child protection services.
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Ausgirl said:Back to Tanilla - yeah, Fig Tree, that blew me away. It's just beyond comprehension, that woman's priorities...
Worrying is that Tanilla has an older sister, omg gorgeous child. And she was with the
Not guilty, my antipodal
Beyond Belief! I hope there is more evidence coming out in this case about her past history - this sounds to me as if the children had been abused by her long before this turned into the death of Tanilla.
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This is absolutely terrible. It makes me sick to even read this. I CAN NOT even imagine doing this to anyone much less a two year old child. I think about my own 2 year old and it just makes it that much worse. What this little baby had to go through the should have to endure 100 times worse and so should this "mother"
should have to endure 100 times worse and so should this "mother"
Agonising abuse of tiny Tanilla: NSW court
By Isabel Hayes, AAPUpdated July 9, 2013, 3:47 pm
Quote:
But the little girl had allegedly suffered agonising and severe physical abuse in the months before.
He whipped her with items including his belt, an extension cord, thongs, a broom and a hairbrush.
Tanilla was "often dressed in a full body suit that covered her arms and legs to hide the bruises that covered her body", the documents said.
About a week before her death, the man allegedly told a friend, "I've hit her with an extension cord, a strap, a jug cord, a wooden spoon and she doesn't learn. Look I'll make her scream...", before he threatened Tanilla with his belt.
Deaves <her mother>has pleaded guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of criminal negligence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/latest/...lla-nsw-court/
She will face a sentence hearing in September.
By Isabel Hayes, AAPUpdated July 9, 2013, 3:47 pm
Quote:
But the little girl had allegedly suffered agonising and severe physical abuse in the months before.
He whipped her with items including his belt, an extension cord, thongs, a broom and a hairbrush.
Tanilla was "often dressed in a full body suit that covered her arms and legs to hide the bruises that covered her body", the documents said.
About a week before her death, the man allegedly told a friend, "I've hit her with an extension cord, a strap, a jug cord, a wooden spoon and she doesn't learn. Look I'll make her scream...", before he threatened Tanilla with his belt.
Deaves <her mother>has pleaded guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of criminal negligence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/latest/...lla-nsw-court/
She will face a sentence hearing in September.
Tanilla Warwick-Deaves case sparks NSW government hiring of more frontline caseworkers
JANET FIFE-YEOMANS
THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
JULY 11, 2013 12:00AM
FAMILY and Community Services Minister Pru Goward has announced more frontline caseworkers are being hired to work with the state's most vulnerable children, after a Central Coast woman pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of her two-year-old daughter.
Ms Goward denied there had been a freeze on recruitment and blamed the former Labor government for "their continued lies" about the state's child protection system.
"I have told the department to fill BUDGETED frontline caseworker positions," she said.
http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/tanil...line-caseworkers/story-fnii5s3z-1226677315812
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JANET FIFE-YEOMANS
THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
JULY 11, 2013 12:00AM
FAMILY and Community Services Minister Pru Goward has announced more frontline caseworkers are being hired to work with the state's most vulnerable children, after a Central Coast woman pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of her two-year-old daughter.
Ms Goward denied there had been a freeze on recruitment and blamed the former Labor government for "their continued lies" about the state's child protection system.
"I have told the department to fill BUDGETED frontline caseworker positions," she said.
http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/tanil...line-caseworkers/story-fnii5s3z-1226677315812
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What an adorable little girl, only to have a selfish, crappy mother.
Tanilla probably lived more days in physical pain and anguish than she ever had happy ones and that makes my heart hurt.
About a week before her death, the man allegedly told a friend, "I've hit her with an extension cord, a strap, a jug cord, a wooden spoon and she doesn't learn. Look I'll make her scream...", before he threatened Tanilla with his belt.
BBM
Seriously? "Hey, watch me make the baby scream" I swear I could happily throttle this sorry pond scum myself, then get a good nights' sleep!
And what is she smiling for?? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Ok, going to take a deep breath now.
The only things that enrages me further is hearing CPS officials crank out the same old "This is a tragedy, of course we're saddened" followed by "We cannot comment on this case" BS spin every time a child dies on their watch!
They were called 33 times!
Tanilla probably lived more days in physical pain and anguish than she ever had happy ones and that makes my heart hurt.
About a week before her death, the man allegedly told a friend, "I've hit her with an extension cord, a strap, a jug cord, a wooden spoon and she doesn't learn. Look I'll make her scream...", before he threatened Tanilla with his belt.
BBM
Seriously? "Hey, watch me make the baby scream" I swear I could happily throttle this sorry
pond scum myself, then get a good nights' sleep!And what is she smiling for?? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Ok, going to take a deep breath now.
The only things that enrages me further is hearing CPS officials crank out the same old "This is a tragedy, of course we're saddened" followed by "We cannot comment on this case" BS spin every time a child dies on their watch!
They were called 33 times!
Don't you just love how politicians have to blame the previous govt for THEIR faults? Pru's been minister long enough to sort some funding out, surely, for the areas most in need of it.. the places with the biggest backlog/the most DEAD KIDS ffs.
And anyway, I'd love to say to her, it's not about the ---money-- Pru. It's about your Dept. hiring lackadaisical, lazy halfwits who wouldn't know an abused child from a rubber chicken. Or just don't want the extra paperwork that might have saved Tanilla's life - and the agony of however many other abused kids cases are NOT being adequately investigated on your watch.
====deep breath=====
Tonya, 33 times.. some of those from Deaves' own brother...
It'd be an absolute disgrace if it happened just once, one time ever. But yep, these cases are so common it indicates to me a sickness in our whole civilisation, that billions of $ are wasted on throwaway junk and yet our children live and die with abuse like this, with no help and no justice befitting their suffering..
My thoughts are with Tanilla's big sister and those family members who really did do everything they could to help her.
And anyway, I'd love to say to her, it's not about the ---money-- Pru. It's about your Dept. hiring lackadaisical, lazy halfwits who wouldn't know an abused child from a rubber chicken. Or just don't want the extra paperwork that might have saved Tanilla's life - and the agony of however many other abused kids cases are NOT being adequately investigated on your watch.
====deep breath=====
Tonya, 33 times.. some of those from Deaves' own brother...
It'd be an absolute disgrace if it happened just once, one time ever. But yep, these cases are so common it indicates to me a sickness in our whole civilisation, that billions of $ are wasted on throwaway junk and yet our children live and die with abuse like this, with no help and no justice befitting their suffering..
My thoughts are with Tanilla's big sister and those family members who really did do everything they could to help her.
Ausgirl, the latest news is that the Minister is reported as saying that they do not need more front line workers. The blame is that these front liners need to. MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. We must know there is a shortage of Foster Carer's. I think that is a source of pride as other countries report death in custody.
Moo. If there were more foster care options, all infants would have a chance.
QUOTE
Sending a 14-year-old boy to live in a house with two convicted sex offenders was a short-term arrangement which was "only just good enough", the head of the Department for Child Protection conceded yesterday.
July 10, 2013
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/17935449/sex-offender-plan-just-ok/
Moo
Moo. If there were more foster care options, all infants would have a chance.
QUOTE
Sending a 14-year-old boy to live in a house with two convicted sex offenders was a short-term arrangement which was "only just good enough", the head of the Department for Child Protection conceded yesterday.
July 10, 2013
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/17935449/sex-offender-plan-just-ok/
Moo
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This is a troubled teen - but there is no excuse for putting him in arms reach of 2 sex offenders. Child Protection? I think not! And I don't care if Community services or the Pope was visiting him everyday to check up - this should not even be an option to be considered at all.
Why cant they get this right?
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Dear God, that poor sweet baby! <modsnip> Our hearts hurt for this baby but she can find reason to smile??
This male teen is troubled and is very susceptible to bad influences which worries me but the Judge said it was OK temporarily. They may not hurt him but he is in an environment of 2 sicko's.
My post was me 'thinking out loud' about why the Minister would make a statement that more front line workers are not needed. She further said that what needs to happen is they <front line staff> need to make better decisions.
My question is this.. What decisions are they making now that are putting children in harm's way? I can't see that she elaborated on her statement.
I thought, in defence of the front liner's, that a lack of placement options in care is limited. Although it could be a systemic problem that children are put the through a revolving door of care and back to parents which would cause disruption. I really don't know.
Maybe parent's should have "3 strikes and you are out". They would loose custody and I think a young child would be easily placed in permanent care.
Moo
Rest in Peace Tanilla. May your Daddy find peace.
This is the story of another child abuser in the news. She was convicted and now is appealing her sentence because lawyers say the verdict of the jury was "unreasonable". I hazard a guess that she has Legal Aid. Moo
A babysitter convicted of torturing a six-year-old boy with hot knives has lost an appeal in Queensland's highest court.
Brisbane's Court of Appeal today dismissed Muno Ahmed Adan's appeal after she was found guilty of torturing her friend's son while babysitting at their home in Inala, west of Brisbane.
The 22-year-old assaulted the schoolboy numerous times between May 30 and August 21 2010, in one instance using hot knives and matches to burn his face, back and arms as punishment for wetting the bed.
She also allegedly tied the boy up and locked him in a garden shed with threats that a giant lizard would come and eat him.
The jury heard Adan also bound the boy's legs and arms and wrapped tape over his eyes nose and ears before locking him in the shed.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national...who-tortured-boy-with-hot-knives-loses-appeal
A babysitter convicted of torturing a six-year-old boy with hot knives has lost an appeal in Queensland's highest court.
Brisbane's Court of Appeal today dismissed Muno Ahmed Adan's appeal after she was found guilty of torturing her friend's son while babysitting at their home in Inala, west of Brisbane.
The 22-year-old assaulted the schoolboy numerous times between May 30 and August 21 2010, in one instance using hot knives and matches to burn his face, back and arms as punishment for wetting the bed.
She also allegedly tied the boy up and locked him in a garden shed with threats that a giant lizard would come and eat him.
The jury heard Adan also bound the boy's legs and arms and wrapped tape over his eyes nose and ears before locking him in the shed.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national...who-tortured-boy-with-hot-knives-loses-appeal
Foster care agencies fear system will collapse as numbers of willing families decline
LATELINE BY HAMISH FITZSIMMONS AND CANDICE TALBERG
UPDATED WED 10 JUL 2013, 10:37 AM AEST
Agencies say the foster care system is in crisis and could collapse within five years unless it undergoes a dramatic overhaul.
Non-government foster care agencies have told Lateline that the number of people wanting to take in foster children has declined in recent years, as has support for them.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-09/foster-care-agencies-fear-system-will-collapse/4809640
LATELINE BY HAMISH FITZSIMMONS AND CANDICE TALBERG
UPDATED WED 10 JUL 2013, 10:37 AM AEST
Agencies say the foster care system is in crisis and could collapse within five years unless it undergoes a dramatic overhaul.
Non-government foster care agencies have told Lateline that the number of people wanting to take in foster children has declined in recent years, as has support for them.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-09/foster-care-agencies-fear-system-will-collapse/4809640
Some snippets of clarification from this article.
- The 30+ reports were filed on the family from the time of the birth of Tanilla's older sister in 2004.
(so this means concerns were raised over her sister before Tanilla was born, as well as over Tanilla's abuse...)
- The children of this family were "observed but not interviewed" by the unidentified case worker who filed the report stating that Tanilla was in grave danger.
- Neighbours witnessed drug use in front of the children and reported it.
- Both of Tanilla's sisters are now in safe custody.
And the family is said to have received a huge amount of "support" --- FFS!!!!! If the 'parents' are doing drugs in front of the children they are also savagely beating in plain eye and ear shot of neighbours, and there's 30+ reports of child abuse ---- doesn't this imply the family needs less "support" than to have their kids immediately removed to safety, pending serious charges of assault and child abuse???
The reasons WHY this didn't happen in this and all the other cases like it needs to be the subject of a Federal inquiry.
- The 30+ reports were filed on the family from the time of the birth of Tanilla's older sister in 2004.
(so this means concerns were raised over her sister before Tanilla was born, as well as over Tanilla's abuse...)
- The children of this family were "observed but not interviewed" by the unidentified case worker who filed the report stating that Tanilla was in grave danger.
- Neighbours witnessed drug use in front of the children and reported it.
- Both of Tanilla's sisters are now in safe custody.
And the family is said to have received a huge amount of "support" --- FFS!!!!! If the 'parents' are doing drugs in front of the children they are also savagely beating in plain eye and ear shot of neighbours, and there's 30+ reports of child abuse ---- doesn't this imply the family needs less "support" than to have their kids immediately removed to safety, pending serious charges of assault and child abuse???
The reasons WHY this didn't happen in this and all the other cases like it needs to be the subject of a Federal inquiry.
Ausgirl, there is another recent event in court of another child being missed out on a case worker because it wasn't a priority. When I searched twitter re. Pru there are cases that are so shocking. One of a boy who had :banghead: bite marks on him... and of course bruises.
I believe there needs to be an independent inquiry. However, that will take so much time and no one in an election year wants to do this.
Do you remember when it was shown on TV the graphic video of the live animal export to Indonesia? It was widely shown that these animals didn't die quickly and therefore not humanly. We stopped live export and had the Katter party registered not long after.
How about this... put a live CCTV camera in any house of some of these parents. Witness how long it takes to die, usually one or two days with convulsions and vomiting. Put that on the news.
Moo.
Also, if the media can post 'graphic video' of a cow being punched... The Bali bombing... why not get it out there that in Australia this is happening to some our kids... over days, weeks, months.
I believe there needs to be an independent inquiry. However, that will take so much time and no one in an election year wants to do this.
Do you remember when it was shown on TV the graphic video of the live animal export to Indonesia? It was widely shown that these animals didn't die quickly and therefore not humanly. We stopped live export and had the Katter party registered not long after.
How about this... put a live CCTV camera in any house of some of these parents. Witness how long it takes to die, usually one or two days with convulsions and vomiting. Put that on the news.
Moo.
Also, if the media can post 'graphic video' of a cow being punched... The Bali bombing... why not get it out there that in Australia this is happening to some our kids... over days, weeks, months.
Flinders -- thanks button isn't enough for your post above.
True, every word. Makes me mad that I haven't the strength these days to start up just such a fight.... and I mean a -fight- !!
Our kids, every one of them, deserve so much more than DOCS "misjudgements" (read: abject incompetence, cause that what it IS, Pru...) when they really need someone to fight for their lives.
I spent some time today looking at my lovely 14yo, and remembering how gorgeous she was, how good she smelled, how sweet and cuddly she was, when she was little...
Of course, I adore her at all ages.. but at 2? She literally stopped people in their tracks to smile at her, that's how bright a light she was.
And that's what I see, when I look at the pics of Tanilla, and I can't help but imagine ... well, I can't imagine her suffering, it's unthinkable, unbearable. Instead, I imagine her in the kitchen of someone truly loving and kind, eating a giant cookie and drinking milk, scribbling with crayons and smiling... safe and happy and loved. Just as my own little girl was, and always will be.
How hard is it, to take good care of a tiny, sweet girl.... or boy, for that matter. It's NOT hard, is what.
And we live in a country that is literally up to its neck in resources for those who cannot cope with the task. We do more for our underpriveleged than just about ANY country on the planet. No child has to go unclothed, hungry or homeless in this nation, IF the parents aren't too stupid or selfish or drunk or stoned to actively seek help.
NO EXCUSE! Chuck the book at 'em, I say.
And then pick it up and chuck it repeatedly at Pru, her crappy employees (those not, ahem, currently incarcerated for wife-beating) and all of their ilk, until some common sense and decency is knocked into 'em and things change for the better.
True, every word. Makes me mad that I haven't the strength these days to start up just such a fight.... and I mean a -fight- !!
Our kids, every one of them, deserve so much more than DOCS "misjudgements" (read: abject incompetence, cause that what it IS, Pru...) when they really need someone to fight for their lives.
I spent some time today looking at my lovely 14yo, and remembering how gorgeous she was, how good she smelled, how sweet and cuddly she was, when she was little...
Of course, I adore her at all ages.. but at 2? She literally stopped people in their tracks to smile at her, that's how bright a light she was.
And that's what I see, when I look at the pics of Tanilla, and I can't help but imagine ... well, I can't imagine her suffering, it's unthinkable, unbearable. Instead, I imagine her in the kitchen of someone truly loving and kind, eating a giant cookie and drinking milk, scribbling with crayons and smiling... safe and happy and loved. Just as my own little girl was, and always will be.
How hard is it, to take good care of a tiny, sweet girl.... or boy, for that matter. It's NOT hard, is what.
And we live in a country that is literally up to its neck in resources for those who cannot cope with the task. We do more for our underpriveleged than just about ANY country on the planet. No child has to go unclothed, hungry or homeless in this nation, IF the parents aren't too stupid or selfish or drunk or stoned to actively seek help.
NO EXCUSE! Chuck the book at 'em, I say.
And then pick it up and chuck it repeatedly at Pru, her crappy employees (those not, ahem, currently incarcerated for wife-beating) and all of their ilk, until some common sense and decency is knocked into 'em and things change for the better.
Voight plays "blame the victim" in response to heavy criticism over child deaths during DOCS involvement:
Louise Voigt, the chief executive officer and welfare director at Barnardos, says it is a ''a bit of a cop-out for everybody to see child welfare as failing'' and to blame government caseworkers for the consequences of disadvantage left unattended by the rest of society.
...
'We are talking about people in gross poverty and housing is getting worse. We are finding families living in cars.
''No wonder they explode into violence.''
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/suffer-still-the-little-children-20130712-2pvku.html#ixzz2ZLqhm2gk
Caseworker numbers have dropped 10% in the Hunter area:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/caseworke...as-for-children-in-danger-20130717-2q4rn.html
Child protection worker breaks the law to speak up for DOCS workers:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-17/nsw-child-protection-worker-hits-back-at-criticism/4827052
Interesting article about DOCS (now apparently known as FACS instead):
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/child-protection-deserves-stable-management-20130710-2ppez.html
Journalist suggests a solution to the DOCS crisis:
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/confronting-the-monster-within-20130714-2py0u.html
Louise Voigt, the chief executive officer and welfare director at Barnardos, says it is a ''a bit of a cop-out for everybody to see child welfare as failing'' and to blame government caseworkers for the consequences of disadvantage left unattended by the rest of society.
...
'We are talking about people in gross poverty and housing is getting worse. We are finding families living in cars.
''No wonder they explode into violence.''
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/suffer-still-the-little-children-20130712-2pvku.html#ixzz2ZLqhm2gk
Caseworker numbers have dropped 10% in the Hunter area:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/caseworke...as-for-children-in-danger-20130717-2q4rn.html
Child protection worker breaks the law to speak up for DOCS workers:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-17/nsw-child-protection-worker-hits-back-at-criticism/4827052
Interesting article about DOCS (now apparently known as FACS instead):
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/child-protection-deserves-stable-management-20130710-2ppez.html
Journalist suggests a solution to the DOCS crisis:
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/confronting-the-monster-within-20130714-2py0u.html
The problem with Voight's comments, as I see it, is that in Tanilla's case the abuse was obvious and there were a huge number of reports made after contact by concerned relatives and neighbours.
On the ground level of this, IMO it's incredibly obvious that Tanilla and her siblings SHOULD have been removed from their mother's custody long before Tanilla was murdered. There was -every- indication that something bad was going to sooner or later happen to one of those children.
And they were not removed. So Tanilla died.
If the primary workers on that case are not to blame for the lack of prompt action in the case of extreme danger to a child --- then who is?
On the ground level of this, IMO it's incredibly obvious that Tanilla and her siblings SHOULD have been removed from their mother's custody long before Tanilla was murdered. There was -every- indication that something bad was going to sooner or later happen to one of those children.
And they were not removed. So Tanilla died.
If the primary workers on that case are not to blame for the lack of prompt action in the case of extreme danger to a child --- then who is?
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