Found Alive Australia - Terence Darrell Kelly, charged w/ abduction, 4 y.o. victim found alive, WA ,16 Oct 2021

[PinkPower]

I don't think that's especially significant. Stereotyping here, but: got money, get a car, that's it. Not interested in the red tape.

They were probably seized due to the charge related to the vehicle in June 2021.

 

[KittensAugustus]

It has always baffled me how people with interests out with the norm, or those with malicious, criminal urges find each-other. How do they casually drop it into conversation to bond over their mutual depravity?

It appears they may do this by having profiles with Bratz dolls as profile pictures....

 

[PinkPower]

It has always baffled me how people with interests out with the norm, or those with malicious, criminal urges find each-other. How do they casually drop it into conversation to bond over their mutual depravity?

They ordinarily don't. It's extremely unusual to find murderers or sexual deviants acting together. When they do, it's often a familial connection that binds them, or a romantic connection.

The internet, however, has a group for everything now. Whatever your proclivity or lifestyle or identity, you can find a group who supports it and where you fit in, and all anonymously. One of the toxic sides of the internet.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

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All the msm articles I've read have mentioned, a locked house, if someone could provide a link where a locked room was reported would be appreciated.


Officers broke into a locked house in the town of Carnarvon, about 900 kilometres north of Perth, about 1am WA time and found the young girl in one of the rooms. She was alone at the time.

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[PinkPower]

All the msm articles I've read have mentioned, a locked house, if someone could provide a link where a locked room was reported would be appreciated.


Officers broke into a locked house in the town of Carnarvon, about 900 kilometres north of Perth, about 1am WA time and found the young girl in one of the rooms. She was alone at the time.

missing-four-year-old-found-locked-in-carnarvon-home

I can't recall where I read it, but it definitely distinguished between locked house (because, it is normal a house would be locked when the occupant wasn't there) with a locked room. This further adds to the criminal implications of the case, so it was lodged in my mind.

I think there was mention of this in one of the prior threads since the charge.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

So what was the issue CS’s parents couldn’t/wouldn’t speak about during the second interview?

That's the million dollar question TGY, no wait....

 

[PinkPower]

That's the million dollar question TGY, no wait....

They didn't want to go over the events of the abduction again, from my understanding. This was probably legally advised, also.

Or are you referring to another issue?

 

[Marg944]

All the msm articles I've read have mentioned, a locked house, if someone could provide a link where a locked room was reported would be appreciated.


Officers broke into a locked house in the town of Carnarvon, about 900 kilometres north of Perth, about 1am WA time and found the young girl in one of the rooms. She was alone at the time.

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November 3, 2021 - 8:15AM - Sky News web site

Western Australia Police confirmed they have found four-year-old girl CS inside a home in the early hours of Wednesday morning after going missing for 17 days.

A team of officers broke into a Carnarvon property on Tonkin Crescent around 1am where they found CS in a locked room.

 

[PinkPower]

November 3, 2021 - 8:15AM - Sky News web site

Western Australia Police confirmed they have found four-year-old girl CC inside a home in the early hours of Wednesday morning after going missing for 17 days.

A team of officers broke into a Carnarvon property on Tonkin Crescent around 1am where they found CS in a locked room.

Thank you

 

[mickey2942]

The victim seemed to be in quite good spirits from the picture that was published of her, after her rescue.

I have seen children who were abused and neglected, they are not smiling within hours of a rescue. Unfortunately, they don't laugh or smile for a very long time.

 

[PinkPower]

And rather than fly the child, under the circumstances, wouldn't they fly the specialist in?

They probably already had someone there to do them. The victim was rescued just after midnight and was in the hospital all night and morning.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I can't recall where I read it, but it definitely distinguished between locked house (because, it is normal a house would be locked when the occupant wasn't there) with a locked room.

I think there was mention of this in one of the prior threads since the charge.

My apologies, I found the article.

But the remarkable discovery of the four-year-old inside a locked room at a property in the West Australian town of Carnarvon on Wednesday – 18 days after she first went missing – shocked the nation and especially Mr Watson-Munro.

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[PinkPower]

The victim seemed to be in quite good spirits from the picture that was published of her, after her rescue.

I have seen children who were abused and neglected, they are not smiling within hours of a rescue. Unfortunately, they don't laugh or smile for a very long time.

Children often have delayed trauma to these events. Make no mistake, even if he didn't sexually harm her, she will forever be traumatised over this event. She was stolen from her family at night and kept for 18 days by a stranger. There is no way to escape the trauma of that, even if she was playing with dolls and eating lollies the whole time.

 

[JLZ]

All the msm articles I've read have mentioned, a locked house, if someone could provide a link where a locked room was reported would be appreciated.


Officers broke into a locked house in the town of Carnarvon, about 900 kilometres north of Perth, about 1am WA time and found the young girl in one of the rooms. She was alone at the time.

missing-four-year-old-found-locked-in-carnarvon-home

From memory I've read both . . . locked house, unlocked room, and unlocked house, locked room. But not both locked.

Edit: Well now I have, thanks Marg.

 

[Estelle]

This was originally from the Daily Mail:

"Shocked neighbours told Daily Mail Australia they were first alerted to the commotion when police flood lights lit up their cul-de-sac in the middle of Tuesday night.

‘My nephews went up to see what was going on and then they saw cops leading out the little white girl,’ a neighbour said.

He added that he has known the owner of the property for more than a decade, describing him as ‘a loner’ who ‘kept to himself’ and was not the type to stop and talk to others who lived on the street.

He last saw the man just three days after CS disappeared. ‘His grandmother raised him… but after she died a year or so ago, (it was three years ago) nobody went over to [speak] to him,’ the man said.

‘He got a new car after… he used to park it in the driveway and then close the gate, every day, always went and put the car in the same spot and closed the gate.’

Former friends added that the man had not long been released from jail, though did not say what he was in prison for. Police said only that he was ‘known’ to them and was not a registered sex offender.

Incredible moment 'Australia's Maddie' CS, four, is rescued by police - Texas News Today

(I have done a search on Google to try to confirm that TK was released in June 2021 but could only find this article which states "recently". So maybe I heard it on TV. )

 

[PinkPower]

The victim seemed to be in quite good spirits from the picture that was published of her, after her rescue.

I have seen children who were abused and neglected, they are not smiling within hours of a rescue. Unfortunately, they don't laugh or smile for a very long time.

I've seen an attempted murder victim who had her throat slashed who was in good spirits.

It's not a stretch to think that her good spirits were because she was back with her parents and eating an icypole in a hospital bed.

Whether there was SA or not, she was abused and neglected. She was found in a house by herself at 1am in the morning. That is neglect. Kidnapping is a violent crime and it is abusive in the extreme. She was deprived of liberty.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was sexually abused as a child. Maybe that's the thing with the dolls, a coping thing. Some root connection to his childhood innocence or something. Those dolls may represent something.

I don't want to sound gracious towards him, just saying I think his issues run deep.

I guess the dolls did belong to his grandma, so they definitely represent something rooted and perhaps meaningful to him.

Weird thought, but did he see CS as an extension of the dolls (her hair in 2 ponytails similar to Bratz dolls) and in a sense extension to his grandmother? He cared so long for his grandmother, was he looking for someone else vulnerable to tend to and care for? Just thoughts I can't help but wonder..

 

[they'll get you]

Something made him escalate up , way way up from inert and agreeable dolls to real life human girl children. Some catalyst maybe..

I was struck by one of the police charges, 'that he 'fraudulently' approached the child.

Pretending to be what, I wonder?.. his choices would be somewhat limited, due to his size, his gender, his People identity, ... It is something that has intrigued me now for days.

RBBM

fraudulently
/ˈfrɔːdʒ(ə)l(ə)ntli/

1. in a way that involves deception, especially criminal deception.
   "she bought goods with a fraudulently obtained credit card”

 

[Estelle]

November 3, 2021 - 8:15AM - Sky News web site

Western Australia Police confirmed they have found four-year-old girl CS inside a home in the early hours of Wednesday morning after going missing for 17 days.

A team of officers broke into a Carnarvon property on Tonkin Crescent around 1am where they found CS in a locked room.

Surely CS would have been terrified when LE had to perhaps break the door down to get access to her.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

He's as cunning as a rat with a gold tooth. .. Nothing is wrong with this bloke's cognitive functions.. All those wheels are turning with smooth precision.

I agree to a point, but there's still something missing, wired wrong, and not right. Loneliness, trauma from g-ma dying, too much time on his hands, went down a rabbit hole... can't get back to reality... likes not living in reality, detaches somewhat, wants company, thinks scooping a girl is a good idea.

 

[JLZ]

Surely CS would have been terrified when LE had to perhaps break the door down to get access to her.

Yes. And those days passed like a flash for me but how long they would have seemed to a child. And the daylight blocked out, no real day and night. Perhaps scared into not crying, into showing a smiling face. Broken promises to see her parents, again and again. (I speculate.) Then after an eternity the bashing smashing noise and more strange men, being picked up, and "What's your name? What's your name?"