GUILTY Australia - Terence Darrell Kelly, charged w/ abduction of 4 y.o., WA, 16 Oct 2021 #2

  • #361
Reading between the lines and ignoring media speculation, I highly doubt another person was involved.
It's my prediction and opinion that no additional party will be found and this is all pointless speculation because media have twisted words for a sensationalist headline.
 
  • #362
She was also awake when with her family, at 1.30am asking for water on the morning of her abduction. It's possible that at the time of her rescue, she was awakened by the police battering and busting their way into the house - and then into the room where she was locked.

I don't think so. She was found sitting up in bed playing with toys.
 
  • #363
Reading between the lines and ignoring media speculation, I highly doubt another person was involved.
It's my prediction and opinion that no additional party will be found and this is all pointless speculation because media have twisted words for a sensationalist headline.

Highly likely. The police say they aren’t ruling X out and the media use that to say “the police suspect X happened”…
 
  • #364
Highly likely. The police say they aren’t ruling X out and the media use that to say “the police suspect X happened”…

Precisely!

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  • #365
Reading between the lines and ignoring media speculation, I highly doubt another person was involved.
It's my prediction and opinion that no additional party will be found and this is all pointless speculation because media have twisted words for a sensationalist headline.

That would make sense.
 
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  • #366
so - did he take CS or was he ‘minding her’ for someone else ?

The head-banging responsible for his police- custody hospital visits, was said to be accompanied by wailing of “I’m sorry, I’m sorry “ ..
Though it’s anyone’s guess who he was apologising too!
 
  • #367
Initially neighbors only referred to TK as the person who "stays" at the house and for about 6 months/not long . So is it someone else he knows or kin who has been allocated the house and he stays there . The person maybe comes and goes/travels /in other places for what ever reason.
I find it unusual that he would be given a 2 bed property if he lived alone. To make best use of resources I would expect a 2 bed house to a household who needs the extra bedroom
 
  • #368
I find it unusual that he would be given a 2 bed property if he lived alone. To make best use of resources I would expect a 2 bed house to a household who needs the extra bedroom
JMO...maybe TK had a child (maybe estranged?), and that's how he got a 2 bed residence? MOO.
 
  • #369
To find a female abductor paired with a male abductor where there is no romantic connection would be the rarest of rare possibilities in this case, with probabilities lower than 0.001%.

The most probable and simple solution is that this wild speculation is not true.

Are you suggesting that the earlier news about CS saying "a women brushed her hair and dressed her " is false ?
 
  • #370
JMO...maybe TK had a child (maybe estranged?), and that's how he got a 2 bed residence? MOO.
Interesting theory…. as there could be reporting restrictions on that to protect another child couldn’t there?
 
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  • #372
I find it unusual that he would be given a 2 bed property if he lived alone. To make best use of resources I would expect a 2 bed house to a household who needs the extra bedroom

I doubt they build many 1 bedroom houses though, especially in small towns like Carnarvon. I lived in a similar town, also in government housing and we were given a 3 bedroom just for my wife and myself.
It just wouldn’t make much sense financially for the government as a 1 bedroom house really limits it’s use.
I’d dare to bet that only the duplexes are 2 bedroom and any single house is at least 3 bedrooms. On another note, I worked in a position where I entered many of these homes so I’m not assuming much here. The government throw a tonne of cash into these communities.
 
  • #373
I wonder what happened to the doll collection when he whent to jail, like someone else must of known about them and packed them up, im now assuming that the dolls in the photos may of been from the C Street house, I wonder what happens to your belongings if you live in government housing and go to jail im assuming you won't be able to keep it as you will no longer hav centerlink payments to pay your rent, I wonder if the painter that saw the collection was at the C Street property
 
  • #374
Initially neighbors only referred to TK as the person who "stays" at the house and for about 6 months/not long . So is it someone else he knows or kin who has been allocated the house and he stays there . The person maybe comes and goes/travels /in other places for what ever reason.

The man who was hired to paint the Carnarvon, WA, public housing commission duplex which Terence Darrell Kelly rented was interviewed by police in the days following his arrest and told them he had seen a room adorned with doll-lined shelves.

If he has only lived at the duplex for 6 months? It seems odd that the government housing would be painting it, wouldn't they paint it while it was empty before TK was to be given it, it makes it sound possible that it was already someone else's home and it was the homes turn to be painted, just seems odd to not do any maintenance while its empty before the next tenant
 
  • #375
I wonder what happened to the doll collection when he whent to jail, like someone else must of known about them and packed them up, im now assuming that the dolls in the photos may of been from the C Street house, I wonder what happens to your belongings if you live in government housing and go to jail im assuming you won't be able to keep it as you will no longer hav centerlink payments to pay your rent, I wonder if the painter that saw the collection was at the C Street property

6 months prison, you just lock your front door and ask a relative, friend or neighbour to make sure the local kids don’t vandalise your stuff.

You guys are giving far too much credit to our government if you think they are maximising the potential of each and every property they have.
 
  • #376
To find a female abductor paired with a male abductor where there is no romantic connection would be the rarest of rare possibilities in this case, with probabilities lower than 0.001%.

The most probable and simple solution is that this wild speculation is not true.
@Trmtrm2 said: its hard to imagine why a woman would want to be involved in the grooming of a missing child,

@Officer Dibble replied: Women do abduct/steal children and babies. JMO

I quoted a post, which quoted a post. I pointed out that Women can in fact be involved in events that I mentioned. Look it up!

If there was a Woman involved, how do you know that they weren't romantically involved? Blood also runs thicker than water, so who is to say it wasn't a close relative? Again, If there was a Woman involved.

If you read my first paragraph, I said I wasn't suggesting it was the case, but, in a highly unusual case, nothing would surprise me.

Where did you obtain your 0.001% stat from? Link please.

What are the probabilities of a child being abducted from a tent in the middle of the night with her Parents close by, particularly in Australia? Fairly low I would imagine. Lower than 0.001%? IDK, you may be able to find those stats too.

What are the probabilities of this abducted child being found alive 18 days later? You have an abducted child, from a tent with Parents nearby, then found alive 18 days later!

Are the probabilities of that happening less or greater than 0.001%. Again, IDK, I dont have the stats, nor am I prepared to pick a number.

I do know that this whole case is highly unusual.

Just to finish off, this case is full of the rarest of rare possibilities. More than a few people thought that with the initial disappearance of C, that "the most probable and simple solution" is that the Parents were involved. That wild speculation was not true either!
 
  • #377
6 months prison, you just lock your front door and ask a relative, friend or neighbour to make sure the local kids don’t vandalise your stuff.

You guys are giving far too much credit to our government if you think they are maximising the potential of each and every property they have.
Just the waiting list for houses you would think if your not paying rent or incaserated in prison it would go to someone who needs it, so basically he could of been in jail and no one would of been able to access his home and see his possessions, im guessing at some stage he lost the grandma's property and was moved to the duplex
 
  • #378
No Cookies | Herald Sun

Not sure about WA but in Victoria it's looking like you can keep your housing commission home when in jail if you pay $15 a week
 
  • #379
  • #380
No Cookies | Herald Sun

Not sure about WA but in Victoria it's looking like you can keep your housing commission home when in jail if you pay $15 a week

That price sounds about right to me. Some houses are overloaded, some have one person in them. The ones that are overloaded aren’t complaining about it either. They make do with what they have.
 

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