Australia Australia - Theo Hayez, 18, Belgian backpacker, Byron Bay, June 2019 #3

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The canopy discussed in the podcast referred to the trees at Cosy Corner. That’s a different spot to where the hat was found.
There is a little more to the hat! Your right for picking something that is different!

I won’t say what it is as CKTC will day I am lying but you are on the right track!
 
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I find it sus that mapping was switched off right near waters edge, of all places to have switched it off or change phone to low power mode it happens to be done there, right near furthest point of his mapping data, closest to water and not far off the goat track. Coincidence? Maybe. Now if someone did have Theo's phone with intention to mislead, that would be the perfect spot to end his mapping trail. In the same week the boy who fell off the cliff at CC was all through the media. Even if no sign was at this goat track at the time Theo went missing it is very likely Theo would have heard about this accident on the news or through others. If someone had Theo's phone to mislead then he knew exactly the best place to take it with all the talk about dangerous CC cliff going around. I do not believe Theo went cliff climbing in pitch black and am very dubious about it being Theo with the phone. Yes the brief French replies on phone point to Theo being on the phone but in reality could have been replied by somebody else, I believe French is taught in schools and then of course there are google translators. So Theo was talking about U2 bands to his friend, replied to an older message from my understanding, to which his friend replied again but Theo did not reply further, instead went on YouTube a few minutes after. Perhaps the last reply from his friend was too much to decipher if this person had limited French language knowledge. And why switch phone to low battery mode then watch YouTube? Theo did not look up any of the area in which he was in on the maps, only WakeUp. I find that odd and even a person who was possibly drunk or spiked or whatever can clearly see the lighthouse! Heading to lighthouse is opposite direction! You would not need to have many wits about you to realize this. Someone deliberately using Theo's phone to mislead would turn in opposite direction after pretending to search for Wake Up, make it look like he is very lost and oops mapping stops right near the water line. Everyone knows phones are tracking devices if Theo met with foul play of course they would not want the phone trail to stop there! Might as well go hand themselves in if they did. If so and they placed the hat later this means Theo was somewhere on land at that stage as they would not have thought so far ahead to save his hat for later. More like saw need to reinforce the belief that it was Theo who took this weird route after seeing people questioning it. He could very well be on private property somewhere, about the only places not being able to be searched. I am not buying that Theo walked in the scrub at midnight. It feels very off. If he did there must have been a very strong reason to do so. He does not appear to be a party animal who would go looking for doofs with strangers at midnight. I could be wrong I know but it just doesn't sit.
 
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There is a little more to the hat! Your right for picking something that is different!

I won’t say what it is as CKTC will day I am lying but you are on the right track!
Could you please cease this. You aren't verified and it has been brought to your attention about the difference between stating facts and opinions which aren't substantiated.
 
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I find it sus that mapping was switched off right near waters edge, of all places to have switched it off or change phone to low power mode it happens to be done there, right near furthest point of his mapping data, closest to water and not far off the goat track. Coincidence? Maybe. Now if someone did have Theo's phone with intention to mislead, that would be the perfect spot to end his mapping trail. In the same week the boy who fell off the cliff at CC was all through the media. Even if no sign was at this goat track at the time Theo went missing it is very likely Theo would have heard about this accident on the news or through others. If someone had Theo's phone to mislead then he knew exactly the best place to take it with all the talk about dangerous CC cliff going around. I do not believe Theo went cliff climbing in pitch black and am very dubious about it being Theo with the phone. Yes the brief French replies on phone point to Theo being on the phone but in reality could have been replied by somebody else, I believe French is taught in schools and then of course there are google translators. So Theo was talking about U2 bands to his friend, replied to an older message from my understanding, to which his friend replied again but Theo did not reply further, instead went on YouTube a few minutes after. Perhaps the last reply from his friend was too much to decipher if this person had limited French language knowledge. And why switch phone to low battery mode then watch YouTube? Theo did not look up any of the area in which he was in on the maps, only WakeUp. I find that odd and even a person who was possibly drunk or spiked or whatever can clearly see the lighthouse! Heading to lighthouse is opposite direction! You would not need to have many wits about you to realize this. Someone deliberately using Theo's phone to mislead would turn in opposite direction after pretending to search for Wake Up, make it look like he is very lost and oops mapping stops right near the water line. Everyone knows phones are tracking devices if Theo met with foul play of course they would not want the phone trail to stop there! Might as well go hand themselves in if they did. If so and they placed the hat later this means Theo was somewhere on land at that stage as they would not have thought so far ahead to save his hat for later. More like saw need to reinforce the belief that it was Theo who took this weird route after seeing people questioning it. He could very well be on private property somewhere, about the only places not being able to be searched. I am not buying that Theo walked in the scrub at midnight. It feels very off. If he did there must have been a very strong reason to do so. He does not appear to be a party animal who would go looking for doofs with strangers at midnight. I could be wrong I know but it just doesn't sit.

It doesn't sit with me either. The things that do sit better with me are the sightings of Theo, in town, running and walking and heading toward Wake Up hostel.

I have a friend whose grown son had his mobile phone and pocket change robbed from him, while waiting at a bus stop. I can't help but think of that, at times, when we speak of whether or not Theo had possession of his phone.
 
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This type of conversation needs to happen off-thread. Not on a public forum. imo

This thread is about Theo, not about the searchers. Most of us have now agreed to not engage, as we are determined to keep this thread open for Theo.

O/T: I hope your RFS duties are going well, and that the fires will soon be calming down - and ceasing to be - in the affected areas.
They ended up deploying us to the emergency fire at Cessnock yesterday, got back about 2am. Some guy sent suicide emails to his ex wife and girlfriend, filled his car with fuel, then high speed slammed into a pole which ignited a large bushfire. Had Elvis hovering about 30 metres above us. Was really bad and also very sad. Other teams took our place up north. So back home now. Thanks for asking. I won't be commenting this CK/ GM issue any more. As stated before, no matter what I say it will be attacked so no point in engaging in this forum any further. I just hope someone digs up the sand at CC.
 
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They ended up deploying us to the emergency fire at Cessnock yesterday, got back about 2am. Some guy sent suicide emails to his ex wife and girlfriend, filled his car with fuel, then high speed slammed into a pole which ignited a large bushfire. Had Elvis hovering about 30 metres above us. Was really bad and also very sad. Other teams took our place up north. So back home now. Thanks for asking. I won't be commenting this CK/ GM issue any more. As stated before, no matter what I say it will be attacked so no point in engaging in this forum any further. I just hope someone digs up the sand at CC.

Thank you for the good work that you do for the RFS.
 
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Let's not go there CKTC. :)

Sometimes 'roll and scroll' or utilising your own 'ignore' list is the best resolution for the entire thread ... and keeping it open.

We understand and are here for Theo, not for anyone else.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, roll and scroll. We are here for Theo. He is missing under some odd circumstances. Who cares who found what. Has anyone found Theo? That’s the important question and at this point the answer is no. And nothing else about this matters. IMO
 
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Agree with you on this too.. if it’s been moved into that position to get a better pic then why are the leaves on top.

What I’m trying to articulate is I can’t see how that hat, sitting in that position in that log was missed in the cop search. Maybe if thats where the hat always was, being so close to a camp, maybe the cops didn’t want to get too close to that camp, or even thinking that hat was from someone in the camp?

And I also think it doesn’t look like it has been sitting in this position for 5 weeks. JMO
Maybe if the hat was upside down and turned over, the leaves would be stuck to it?
 
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No one lies on this page. People postulate/theorize, but no one here claims to know everything and the focus is actually broad.
This is not about proving one's self, it's about solving the case.
 
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Well IMO this is an interesting reply! Unless you are Irish George then you have no idea because i was speaking to him standing at CC car park just me and him planning the day! He will verify this! The picture I sent with the clothes is correct! Facing south to the left! The girl that found it was actually going to walk to the right but told me something made her go to the left around the log and she found the cap! The other girl that was sent with my team was because she was out of control and no one wanted her in their team! The truth is why even hide facts! I said there is only two theories! And yes if I’m right I’m right!! You will need to accept other people can sometimes be better! The problem is the searchers hide info and then anyone that comes up with a great idea they say no and then release it as theirs so they can get the credit for it! I’m not saying the pre plan was not made but can you send all of us a picture of the planning for the 7/7 and it will say to go NORTH! Then call up Irish George and he will tell you! Then start to give credit to the people that achieved something in the search rather than try and show it was only the leaders that have done anything at all! So given I said there was a dead smell and a bone found your only concern is the Media! Real shame! Any concern about finding Theo? Or getting a group to search the CC grounds? Nope because I’ve raised this many times and this won’t happy for the next few months when the lead searchers can say they come up with the idea! I’ve only ever had two outcomes!

We all look forward to you posting the 7/7 and please ensure it is date stamped! Don’t go changing dates on me!

Given your confident you should reveal yourself as I have! Don’t even know why any searcher would need to hide behind an alias unless they are lying!

I will verify myself to the admins even though they already know who I am!

I refused media but now I’m happy to do it thanks to you! I have all the messages and email of people complaining of the behaviour of the search leaders!

please post the search for that day!! Awaiting in excitement! And give credit to the people that deserve it!

hi john stevens, welcome!
im just wondering, in your opinion, was the dead smell where your dog dug up the bone?
and was the smell what attracted her to the area?
do you know if police searchers used cadaver dogs in that spot?
is it worthwhile getting volunteer locals to do a big dig there?
 
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I agree the appearance of the hat is not conducive to being out in the elements 5 weeks as well as it being troubling where it was found, i.e. in an area that had been searched previously. I would definite be of the opinion that it was planted later.
 
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CK, from what I understand, has credentials I deem worthy of trust.
I can't see any distortions of personality when it comes to CK.
This can be assessed in dialectical processes and patterns of behavior.
 
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CK, from what I understand, has credentials I deem worthy of trust.
I can't see any distortions of personality when it comes to CK.
This can be assessed in dialectical processes and patterns of behavior.
I would suggest you re-read her contradicting stories!
 
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