Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #7

[sleepinoz]

I can't tell if he's pretending to be a psychopath or sound like a psychopath or genuinely is one. :dunno: Maybe a bit of both?

IMO - It's genuine

 

[jessicalouise]

IMO - It's genuine

Which is extremely sad because it's almost a cry for help. Or rather a warning for what's to come. And it came.

 

[Dogface]

And I have a question, she stated she wanted to leave and then was locked away and prevented from leaving...is there not some charge that should be filed over that? Wrongful imprisonment?

 

[Tortoise]

Not necessarily, there is overzealous prosecution and overcharging of defendants. There are plenty of cases, where Joe Public scratches his head as to why they even got to trial, this is one of them. There is virtually no chance of GT being found guilty of murder, exemplified by the recent acquittal of a defendant in a vaguely similar trial.

I will admit I had doubts when I had only read briefly about the case. But after hearing the recording I have no doubts. She acted in fear for her life and Gabe instilled that fear in her.

 

[Elde Fruit]

If it's pointless, why is this "disengaged" myth being repeated as a fact over and over?

Just guessing. Because it is fact?

 

[sosocurious]

Each morning as he leaves that sanctum and waits for the light to turn green to cross the road, Tostee chats with his top solicitor. Again, he doesn’t make much eye contact.
One day he is carrying a wad of paper. Another day he is holding a folder, as if to distract the media capturing his every move.
Wherever he goes, Tostee is shadowed by his parents.
At one stage his mother tells him to move away from the media sitting in seats nearby.
Mum seems always to have his back.
At one point, Tostee leaves the courtroom and drops a pen from his hand.
He seems blind to losing it, allowing his mother to swoop it up behind him.
Tostee’s father appears equally doting of his son.
When closed-circuit television of Tostee and Ms Wright meeting for the first time is played, he does not watch it on the monitor.
Instead, Gray Tostee has his eyes fixed on his son, who doesn’t look back.

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...t/news-story/e46d7402a4ff9d639c1b19590efbd006

 

[Dogface]

Just guessing. Because it is fact?

How so? You just agreed no one could possibly know. For all we know he was doing the hokey pokey naked. We don't know.

 

[SouthAussie]

And I have a question, she stated she wanted to leave and then was locked away and prevented from leaving...is there not some charge that should be filed over that? Wrongful imprisonment?

I think that unless Warriena's family tries to push that with the DPP, nothing will be done about it. And I think her family sound too broken with grief and sorrow to do a heck of a lot about it. That is my personal opinion.

He had no right to lock her up. He had a right to have her leave, he had a right to call the police, he had a right to remove those stupid pebbles, but he did not have a right to lock her up.

 

[Deleted member 83851]

And I have a question, she stated she wanted to leave and then was locked away and prevented from leaving...is there not some charge that should be filed over that? Wrongful imprisonment?

Deprivation of Liberty is what I'm thinking, and also Stealing, since he meant to keep the contents of her purse whatever happened.

 

[Tortoise]

Just guessing. Because it is fact?

Guessing and facts don't belong together.

 

[Tortoise]

I liken this case to having a gun pointed at me and running in the only direction possible to save my life, even if the exit is a motorway.

 

[jessicalouise]

Deprivation of Liberty is what I'm thinking, and also Stealing, since he meant to keep the contents of her purse whatever happened.

Probably because those would just end up with a slap on the wrist.

 

[Elde Fruit]

How so? You just agreed no one could possibly know. For all we know he was doing the hokey pokey naked. We don't know.

No, pl,ease don't verbal me. The instant she was on the balcony, him inside, door locked.....disengaged. If he wanted to do any more than that, he would have done it. He didn't. He neutralised her, and prevented any further reasonably foreseeable nasty outcomes. She then made all the decisions, not him. Simple as that.

 

[jessicalouise]

I liken this case to having a gun pointed at me and running in the only direction possible to save my life, even if the exit is a motorway.

In the reenactment photo it shows she had a good chance of getting onto the balcony below. Unfortunately ...

 

[Elde Fruit]

Guessing and facts don't belong together.

I agree entirely.

 

[jessicalouise]

No, pl,ease don't verbal me. The instant she was on the balcony, him inside, door locked.....disengaged. If he wanted to do any more than that, he would have done it. He didn't. He neutralised her, and prevented any further reasonably foreseeable nasty outcomes. She then made all the decisions, not him. Simple as that.

No he didn't! He wanted her on the balcony! He had a fixation with the balcony and had brought it up many times. At least three. He made no attempt to neutralise the situation. He ESCALATED it.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, that's the crux of it South. People lacking empathy cannot imagine being in another person's position; cannot imagine the terror she was experiencing. To them, Gabe Tostee, nice guy, was on the other side of the door so she was safe. To Warriena, the psycho was only a glass door away.

That's the one thing I fear, a lack of empathy by the jury.

It is always a nervewracking time, when a trial is over and deliberations are going to commence.

We have sat anxiously waiting for many a verdict here. But I have to say, the judges and juries have always come through with a good decision, a correct decision.

So, I think we need to just keep putting out those positive vibes, and trust in the good people of Queensland to do the right thing by this young woman who came on holiday to our country, and left in a pine box ... due to Gable Tostee.

 

[Dogface]

No, pl,ease don't verbal me. The instant she was on the balcony, him inside, door locked.....disengaged. If he wanted to do any more than that, he would have done it. He didn't. He neutralised her, and prevented any further reasonably foreseeable nasty outcomes. She then made all the decisions, not him. Simple as that.

I was unaware wrongful imprisonment/deprivation of liberties was considered " neutralization.

 

[SouthAussie]

No, pl,ease don't verbal me. The instant she was on the balcony, him inside, door locked.....disengaged. If he wanted to do any more than that, he would have done it. He didn't. He neutralised her, and prevented any further reasonably foreseeable nasty outcomes. She then made all the decisions, not him. Simple as that.

He made the wrong decision. He did not put her in a place or situation where she felt safe.

 

[Karinna]

I haven't really followed this case from the get go but reading on the thread, and the guy sounds like a positive a**hat control freak to me. Did i read he was or is into body building? Was he doing drugs at all? Maybe a bit of "roid rage" and fuelled by alcohol? A pretty young woman like that should in no way have ended up dead after a date. I hope they find the b**tard guilty.
I wonder if he put anything else in her drink apart from alcohol? I imagine they would of done toxicology tests on her though.
Did they test him for drugs?