Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #68

[SLouTh]

that’s interesting iiii’s, I’d not heard about that - do you have a link please

Don't want to be starting rumours but I thought earlier in the threads there was mention of the postie having a visit with FGM at some stage and I find it interesting

Two days before William disappeared, the court heard, the “post lady” was due to visit William’s foster nana on Benaroon Drive where William was staying when he went missing.

NoCookies | The Australian

 

[FromGermany1]

Don't want to be starting rumours but I thought earlier in the threads there was mention of the postie having a visit with FGM at some stage and I find it interesting that both seemed to find PS to be a pest that they had to take action with, one with and AVO and the other , having a talk with his wife to stop him from just coming over. The street view pictures of that time show much better the amount of gravel on towards the edge og the drive. Can't see it in that pic.

I didn't know, both woman had talked together about their individual problem with PS. The problems are known to me.

 

[iiiii's]

I didn't know, both woman had talked together about their individual problem with PS. The problems are known to me.

Never said they had talked about it together. I don't know if they had.

 

[iiiii's]

Two days before William disappeared, the court heard, the “post lady” was due to visit William’s foster nana on Benaroon Drive where William was staying when he went missing.

NoCookies | The Australian

The quote doesn't say that they did meet, only that they were due to meet. Because the article is behind a paywall, would you be able to give more context to that point, such as was there a reason given for their being due to meet and who was giving this information e.g a police person giving evidence, etc?

 

[iiiii's]

double post

 

[SLouTh]

The quote doesn't say that they did meet, only that they were due to meet. Because the article is behind a paywall, would you be able to give more context to that point, such as was there a reason given for their being due to meet and who was giving this information e.g a police person giving evidence, etc?

The article doesn't say ..... why ...... they they were due to meet..... or if they did meet .... ???

It was a sentence slipped into the article, by Overington ,when reporting on Jubelin's trial .....

 

[SouthAussie]

The article doesn't say ..... why ...... they they were due to meet..... or if they did meet .... ???

It was a sentence slipped into the article, by Overington ,when reporting on Jubelin's trial .....

I noticed that, early in the article, it says it came from an interview that the court heard/saw, when Jubes was interviewed by Professional Standards.

Jubes was explaining how PS was brought to the attention of Strike Force Rosann (in 2017 someone commented on PS walking around with an A3 size photo of his wife hung around his neck).

The interview went on to explain all of the factors that made PS a POI. I would guess that he was explaining why they were able to obtain warrants for secret recordings of PS.

Of course, postie was included due to his harassment of her, the AVO against him, the charges he faced for breaching the AVO. Then he turned his attention to FGM - who had recently been widowed - by turning up at her place unannounced and just standing there staring at her. (paraphrased from the article)

 

[SLouTh]

By the time of the inquest, it seems the time of WT's disappearance was being considered somewhere between 10.05 and 10.20. IMO

I think Mr Savage can be ruled out with this time frame ....

At 9.59am, Mr Savage's phone records show he was making his second call to his brother, which lasted almost 10 minutes.
William Tyrrell inquest: High-profile cop grilled over damaging questions of neighbour (9news.com.au)

On Thursday, Detective Sergeant Laura Beacroft – who was on the strike force investigating William's disappearance for more than two years – said Mr Savage was at one stage an active person of interest in the case but now, to her knowledge, he is not.
William Tyrrell's neighbour recorded talking to himself, court told (smh.com.au)

I don't think an active POI could consider suing NSW Police......

Mr Savage, who lived across the road from William Tyrrell's FGM says he is considering suing NSW Police after being pursued as a suspect. (Paraphrased)
Neighbour mulls adding to William Tyrrell ‘suspects’ suing police (theaustralian.com.au)


Other POI's in the investigation have also been ruled out as per an article dated NOVEMBER 22, 2021. (I don't think NSW Police would pay $1M from the Public Purse if a person was not actually ruled out...)

NSW Police spending almost $1m – half in damages and half in legal costs – paying out an unidentified person of interest.
Neighbour mulls adding to William Tyrrell ‘suspects’ suing police (theaustralian.com.au)

And here:

NSW Police has reportedly been sued by a man who was wrongly suspected of being involved in the disappearance of William Tyrrell.

One of the individuals who was a suspect in the disappearance of William Tyrrell (but has since been fully cleared) received a huge payout from NSW Police.

“My understanding is NSW Police have spent close to $1 million after a man wrongly accused in relation to William’s disappearance sued,” Clennell said.

“The man received a settlement worth more than half a million dollars, and with legal costs on top[,] the expense to the public purse has come close to $1 million.
NSW Police Has Reportedly Been Sued By A Man Who Was Wrongly Suspected In William Tyrrell Case (pedestrian.tv)
And
NSW Police sued over wrong accusation amid William Tyrrell case | Sky News Australia


This person is not Mr Spedding as his Lawyer Peter O'Brien confirmed his client was still in court proceedings with NSW Police.

From Mr Peter O'Brien:

“Bill Spedding has not yet settled on anything,” he said. “It is a very substantial damages payment that we are seeking. There’s a destruction of a livelihood, a reputation, it’s periods of imprisonment in the magnitude of months for a man who has never ever been charged with or convicted with a single criminal offence.

“If there’s been any sort of settlement of any other pleadings that’s all good and well, but it’s not ours.”
Neighbour mulls adding to William Tyrrell ‘suspects’ suing police (theaustralian.com.au)

Mr Spedding has been attempting to come to a settlement with police before a trial, which has been set for April next year, which is this month ....... so perhaps we will hear more about this soon....?????

All IMO based on reported information by media links above......

 

[SLouTh]

Mr Spedding has been attempting to come to a settlement with police before a trial, which has been set for April next year, which is this month ....... so perhaps we will hear more about this soon....?????

Mr Spedding's trial against NSW Police is scheduled for 26th April.

William Harrie Spedding v State of New South Wales - NSW court lists | Online Registry

 

[SLouTh]

It would be interesting to have Lamberts thoughts around that.

Did Lambert give any evidence in an open court at the Inquest Blues, or others that attended ?
It would be interesting to hear his take on the investigation, I agree!

 

[drsleuth]

I noticed that, early in the article, it says it came from an interview that the court heard/saw, when Jubes was interviewed by Professional Standards.

Jubes was explaining how PS was brought to the attention of Strike Force Rosann (in 2017 someone commented on PS walking around with an A3 size photo of his wife hung around his neck).

The interview went on to explain all of the factors that made PS a POI. I would guess that he was explaining why they were able to obtain warrants for secret recordings of PS.

Of course, postie was included due to his harassment of her, the AVO against him, the charges he faced for breaching the AVO. Then he turned his attention to FGM - who had recently been widowed - by turning up at her place unannounced and just standing there staring at her. (paraphrased from the article)

And right there in that article SA, you have some of the reasons why PS was a POI & rightly so IMO

 

[Blues Clues]

Did Lambert give any evidence in an open court at the Inquest Blues, or others that attended ?
It would be interesting to hear his take on the investigation, I agree!

Not that I'm aware of SLouTh

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

And right there in that article SA, you have some of the reasons why PS was a POI & rightly so IMO

Not really relevant now though if he’s not a POI and police aren’t investigating him. If evidence was there to suggest otherwise they’d be investigating him now.
They’ve moved onto other POI which is good for the sake of William

 

[drsleuth]

Not really relevant now though if he’s not a POI and police aren’t investigating him. If evidence was there to suggest otherwise they’d be investigating him now.
They’ve moved onto other POI which is good for the sake of William

Relevant or not , it shows that there was a lawful reason for PS being a POI ( wasn't that long ago ,here on thread that people where saying PS should never have been a POI , bagging GJ or words to that effect IIRC )

None of us are on SFR to know, as a fact, who is ruled in & ruled out , what investigations are ongoing etc.

I'll also await the Coroners findings .

No one is ruled out in my mind completely, until there is conviction for this horrible crime .

 

[Serenanicole]

Relevant or not , it shows that there was a lawful reason for PS being a POI ( wasn't that long ago ,here on thread that people where saying PS should never have been a POI , bagging GJ or words to that effect IIRC )

None of us are on SFR to know, as a fact, who is ruled in & ruled out , what investigations are ongoing etc.

I'll also await the Coroners findings .

No one is ruled out in my mind completely, until there is conviction for this horrible crime .

I agree no one is ruled out. Remember there is a million dollar reward offered by the police for information that leads to finding out what happened that nobody has come forward for.
So someone has a well kept secret or if there are more than one involved- those partied are very very closely connected in some manner and remain to be. All my opinion only.

 

[SLouTh]

Wise words today, from the Northern Territory Coroner, Mr Cavanagh...... that equally would apply to William's Inquest..... (Mr Cavanagh was delivering findings of the Patrick “Paddy” Moriarty Inquest)

“We need to find (Insert William here). Cases of this nature are never closed until they are solved.”

Patrick ‘Paddy’ Moriarty ‘killed over feud with neighbours’: coroner (theaustralian.com.au)
Coroner's findings - Department of the Attorney-General and Justice

 

[FromGermany1]

2016
$1 million NSW Government reward announced for the return on William Tyrrell - NSW Police Public Site.
“This is a unique reward, it does not require the charge and conviction of any person(s), it relates to the recovery of William Tyrrell.

“By offering a reward at this point in the investigation, we are appealing directly to those who know something but have not previously been inclined to assist.

“If you know something, there are now a million reasons to come forward.

“I have complete faith in the Strike Force Rosann team, and urge those who know what happened to William to get in touch with police now; don’t wait for us to come to you,” the Commissioner said.

 

[Sambee]

It's my belief that the FM being the POI was leaked to the media. I am not aware of any official police statement to that effect.

Now, who would be in a position of knowledge to be able to leak it? Only the police and the foster parents, IMO.

Or LT

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

Or LT

Potentially as well yes. I’m leaning towards LE purposely to put pressure on certain people. In light of BS suing NSW police for wrongful accusations they would be very cautious but must have a high degree of confidence if they did so anyway.

IMO I think they have more info than they’re letting on but need more confirmation to make charges stick.

 

[centred]

Potentially as well yes. I’m leaning towards LE purposely to put pressure on certain people. In light of BS suing NSW police for wrongful accusations they would be very cautious but must have a high degree of confidence if they did so anyway.

IMO I think they have more info than they’re letting on but need more confirmation to make charges stick.

I often wonder about a young person who claimed they would do anything to try to find out what happened , even joining the police force when they get older . Following the case , possibly seeing family members on Tv and feeling torn . I know at that age I was more than curious about mysteries and detective novels and questioned everything .