Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #41

[SouthAussie]

Hi CC, in understanding your sentiments, I'm not about to espouse a Guilty verdict until it's proven in a court of law.

Similarly however, I'm not about to espouse a Not Guilty verdict - and there in lies the dilemma re BS.
There has not been delivered a 'Not Guilty' verdict.

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Please all, just pray for honesty & answers.

It may not be irrelevant. Anyone who is thought to be, or could be, or is alleged to be, a child sex offender and could have been in the area when William went missing is not irrelevant.
We do not know if his alibi has been proved, as per my above post.

I think we might find that Spedding, and a neighbour who is said to be a key person of interest, might be found to be very relevant at William's inquest.

 

[Warshawski]

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion about that, too.
An admirable man VS a not-admirable man imo.
I cannot even begin to find any similarities in the stance about their alleged actions, and I cannot even begin to align with posts that do.
Nothing personal. I just cannot understand it at all.

With all due respect for your feeling SA - I think they may be off track re 'sleuthing for William'.

I know we're all so desperate for a break through in answers for a William, but this is our time to stay Strong, United & Ontrack... IMO.

The other thing that I remind myself if is my belief that 'the after-life is so much longer'... that's the real time for catchup & penance. What Ever Goes Around, Comes Around.

 

[SouthAussie]

With all due respect for your feeling SA - I think they may be off track re 'sleuthing for William'.

I know we're all so desperate for a break through in answers for a William, but this is our time to stay Strong, United & Ontrack... IMO.

The other thing that I remind myself if is my belief that 'the after-life is so much longer'... that's the real time for catchup & penance. What Ever Goes Around, Comes Around.

Warsh, with all due respect to you also, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this.

I would be very interested to hear anything that you have to add to the case.

 

[Warshawski]

Ok thanks so if the podcast was recorded prior to charges being laid on GJ, how did Lia know about the illegal recordings to say GJ will be fighting the charges in court??

Just wondering of the timeframe between the actual recording & public release.

This stuff takes time - maybe the J charges occurred in the midst & comments added accordingly ?

Seems fair to me..

 

[Warshawski]

I’m assuming the podcast has been months in the making and it would still be updated with new information as the episodes are being released. It is not static, they can add things and make changes anytime they like.

GJ side-lined from case: Feb 2019
GJ quits: May 2019
News of GJ charged: 20 June 2019
First episode released: 23 June 2019

So they had a few days to add the information about GJ.

For ref, about GJ planning to fight the charges in the podcast is mentioned at 7:40 on...

7:40: BELLING: “So an extraordinary development as we are recording this episode with Gary Jubelin….” (ref: The Little Boy in the Spiderman Suit)

Lol 2cents - thanks for your insight.
I'm always so far behind that I really think I should just 'roll & scroll' from here on in

 

[Warshawski]

Have you listened to the podcasts? They provide answers to your questions.

Also, in Australia we could drive hundreds of kilometres for a hamburger, if the mood strikes us. Distance is not a big thing to most Aussies. We go as far for a couple of days stay as many Europeans go for a summer holiday.

Uumm - whilst I take your point of 'distance in Aus v Europe etc' (noting I'm an Aussie / a bush Aussie) I'd never drive 100's of k's for a Burger! I'd just make it myself, and much Cheaper

However, I'm also interested in what appears to be a sudden change of arrangements (noting also that there needs be nothing untoward ! )
* was it only FMC who was in paid employment - if so its only one employment situation to consider
* FMC may have suddenly found opportunity for an early mark - maybe he was keen for a break, and is one who prefers to Go Now as opposed to 'start out early'
( reminiscent of my ex!!)
* taking kids out of ?
^ was Sister in school already
^ William in ? Kindie ? He was 3 ... was he there every day ? Not for full days ??

I do think this is an area that will have surely been investigated thoroughly. There are so many opportunities for 'those who want to know', to be 'In the know' .

all IMO

 

[Thebottomline]

Uumm - whilst I take your point of 'distance in Aus v Europe etc' (noting I'm an Aussie / a bush Aussie) I'd never drive 100's of k's for a Burger! I'd just make it myself, and much Cheaper

However, I'm also interested in what appears to be a sudden change of arrangements (noting also that there needs be nothing untoward ! )
* was it only FMC who was in paid employment - if so its only one employment situation to consider
* FMC may have suddenly found opportunity for an early mark - maybe he was keen for a break, and is one who prefers to Go Now as opposed to 'start out early'
( reminiscent of my ex!!)
* taking kids out of ?
^ was Sister in school already
^ William in ? Kindie ? He was 3 ... was he there every day ? Not for full days ??

I do think this is an area that will have surely been investigated thoroughly. There are so many opportunities for 'those who want to know', to be 'In the know' .

all IMO

Could simply be a spontaneous decision to beat early morning traffic and get an extra night in .whats fm’s employment have to do with it ?

 

[Warshawski]

1st point acknowledged PT - 2nd point befuddles me - maths not my strong point

Apologies - since realised the connection !

 

[Warshawski]

Warsh, with all due respect to you also, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this.

I would be very interested to hear anything that you have to add to the case.

Hi SA, perhaps I've 'worded' my thoughts badly.

My point was that I'd rather see time invested in 'William' rather than what Jubes has or hasn't done with his 'recordings'. ... and making comparisons of J v Some Others is best described as 'rediculous in the scheme of things' IMO

Probably not even now making my sense so I'll give up !!

 

[SouthAussie]

Hi SA, perhaps I've 'worded' my thoughts badly.

My point was that I'd rather see time invested in 'William' rather than what Jubes has or hasn't done with his 'recordings'. ... and making comparisons of J v Some Others is best described as 'rediculous in the scheme of things' IMO

Probably not even now making my sense so I'll give up !!

Thanks, Warsh, for clarifying your point. It certainly wasn't clear to me that you were jumping off my post.
Yes, I agree. Comparing Jubes alleged recording offences to anyone with alleged child sex offences is absurd to me also.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think we are all waiting for that,was he at the cafe that morning and at the school afterwards,it seems that it cant be proven but by one person and that is only her word.

Really good chance that the maybe-one person who is supporting Spedding's alibi may be called to the inquest as well. I hope that person would have separate legal representation who look out for their best interests.

If one person could be lying, then a person who is close to that person may be lying also. A different approach may be used by questioning attorneys and the Coroner for each person ... in their best effort to arrive at the truth of the situation.

I imagine it could play out in the same manner as all of the people who testified about Savage's movements that morning played out.

 

[Wexford]

It may not be irrelevant. Anyone who is thought to be, or could be, or is alleged to be, a child sex offender and could have been in the area when William went missing is not irrelevant.
We do not know if his alibi has been proved, as per my above post.

I think we might find that Spedding, and a neighbour who is said to be a key person of interest, might be found to be very relevant at William's inquest.

BBM
Agree SA. There seems to be a lot of interest in who was where and when and who saw them, early on for one POI and now more recently for the other. It indicates to me there are discrepancies in both their stories and I think the inquest will highlight this to us all. I for one cannot see any reason why someone would lie about where they were (or were not) at this stage in the game unless they are involved or covering for someone (and that would have to be a very 'close' someone). What possible unrelated reason would one lie and have this sort of media scrutiny and suspicion placed upon them and their families?

 

[papertrail]

Good question.
before or after the

SEPTEMBER 16, 2014: Specialist police including sex crimes squad form Strike Force Rosann and join the search.

William Tyrrell: Details Of What Police Believe Happened To Be Made Public

How very interesting it is to me that the day the washing machine was repaired by BS is the very day Strikeforce Rosann was formed. The SFR being made up of specialist police (murder squad?) and sex crimes squad.

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[sosocurious]

How very interesting it is to me that the day the washing machine was repaired by BS is the very day Strikeforce Rosann was formed. The SFR being made up of specialist police (murder squad?) and sex crimes squad.

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You have lost me.
Anyways, BS repaired the washing machine 2 days after the Strikeforce was formed.

 

[papertrail]

You have lost me.
Anyways, BS repaired the washing machine 2 days after the Strikeforce was formed.

So he did repair 2 days later...thanks. I misread my own handwriting note how bad is that.

 

[mussopossum]

For whoever asked about why the FP did the podcast, this is why:


LIA HARRIS: So, there’s been some recent developments in the police investigation that has sort of changed things for them, and we’ll explain more about that as we go along. But, they always have been very private, they always shied away from speaking publicly, but they really want this podcast to shine some new light on the case, and just go some way to finding some answers. And they’ve done this for him (William), at the end of the day this is his story, and that’s what they’re doing it for.

About ½ way through the video.
'Where's William Tyrrell?' Podcast: Missing Toddler's Foster Parents Speak Out - Network Ten

That was me, thanks for that info.

 

[mussopossum]

Perhaps both children were targeted and call of nature took sibling out of harms way.

The perps definitely knew all plans of the family. FGM house had been recently for sale. Would someone inspecting the house acting as a prospective purchaser, to check out the property.

Were there photographs of the children and fcarers on display?

Was the property sale publicly advertised or a private sale with help of family members?

Or simply someone interested in the property from an ad online and doing a drive by of the property to look at it from the outside before making a time to inspect it with an agent then upon driving by see the kids playing turn around and come back later (maybe that car that they heard do a UTurn)? I never really thought of this reason that a non local of the street could have been in the street that day for this reason. I cant remember when the house sold or was removed off the market, I think was a couple months after William disappeared?

 

[2cents2]

Or simply someone interested in the property from an ad online and doing a drive by of the property to look at it from the outside before making a time to inspect it with an agent then upon driving by see the kids playing turn around and come back later (maybe that car that they heard do a UTurn)? I never really thought of this reason that a non local of the street could have been in the street that day for this reason. I cant remember when the house sold or was removed off the market, I think was a couple months after William disappeared?

I've never thought of that either, a good reason for a non-local to be there. Nice one mussopossum. Also, it might not have been the FGM house that they'd come to see, it could have been another house for sale on the street? This has probably already been discussed in previous threads?

 

[papertrail]

Do we know the person responsible for forming Strike Force Rosann on 16 September 2014? What local area command was the base for Rosann....Port Macquarie?

 

[Thebottomline]

Do we know the person responsible for forming Strike Force Rosann on 16 September 2014? What local area command was the base for Rosann....Port Macquarie?

Why Is that relevant