Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #68

[Awakening]

I agree, or if it were me, anyone that I thought was responsible for me losing either one of my children.

I'm on the fence and this latest charge doesn't sway me either way.

If she was guilty then harassing police fits.

If she is innocent then harassing police also fits.

Imagine for a moment you are innocent. The police have not only failed to find your son but they've accused you of his murder, slapped you with a number of charges and taken your remaining child off you.

I'd figure I have nothing left to lose. I also imagine my mental health would be very poor by this point.

 

[Marg944]

The suppression order MUST have been lifted for the foster carers.... now they have named the former male foster carer on the Lawlink site, for 29th April.

 

[bearbear]

when i first read this i imagined mfc had lied to cover up or protect ffc, but he could have also lied to implicate ffc, which was why the renewed search and public announcement of her poi status?

The details of what exactly is the evidence provided to the NSW Crime Commission by the foster father which police claim is false and misleading are unavailable.

The foster father has entered pleas of not guilty to both charges.

He testified for up to two hours after being secretly summonsed to appear at the NSWCC Surry Hills headquarters on November 11.

This was four days before NSW Police launched a surprise 'high intensity' search of bushland around 800m from the house where William had been staying with his foster parents when he vanished seven years ago.

On the second day of the search for William's remains at a dig site in the NSW Mid North Coast town of Kendall, the boy’s foster mother was declared a person of interest in his disappearance.

William Tyrrell's foster mum is hit with new stalking and intimidation charge | Daily Mail Online

 

[SouthAussie]

The suppression order MUST have been lifted for the foster carers.... now they have named the former male foster carer on the Lawlink site, for 29th April.

The Australian article from yesterday says the police can't comment (on the new charges) due to the NPO.

It also says 'the woman' can't be identified due to legal reasons.


"NSW police said they could not provide a comment because of non-publication orders."
Stalking charges for Tyrrell foster mother

 

[bfew]

The Australian article from yesterday says the police can't comment (on the new charges) due to the NPO.

The NPO bit is in a para of it's own.
Long after the bit about the stalking and intimidation charges (the new charges).
And with mention of the common assault charges in between.

So one could argue that due to the ambiguous wording in the article, that the NPO might possibly only relate to the common assault charges.

Although you are probably correct in that there is some form of NPO on all current known charges involving the fosters.

 

[katydid23]

when i first read this i imagined mfc had lied to cover up or protect ffc, but he could have also lied to implicate ffc, which was why the renewed search and public announcement of her poi status?

The details of what exactly is the evidence provided to the NSW Crime Commission by the foster father which police claim is false and misleading are unavailable.

The foster father has entered pleas of not guilty to both charges.

He testified for up to two hours after being secretly summonsed to appear at the NSWCC Surry Hills headquarters on November 11.

This was four days before NSW Police launched a surprise 'high intensity' search of bushland around 800m from the house where William had been staying with his foster parents when he vanished seven years ago.

On the second day of the search for William's remains at a dig site in the NSW Mid North Coast town of Kendall, the boy’s foster mother was declared a person of interest in his disappearance.

William Tyrrell's foster mum is hit with new stalking and intimidation charge | Daily Mail Online

Are the foster parents separated now? I have heard conflicting reports.

 

[Wexford]

I'm on the fence and this latest charge doesn't sway me either way.

If she was guilty then harassing police fits.

If she is innocent then harassing police also fits.

Imagine for a moment you are innocent. The police have not only failed to find your son but they've accused you of his murder, slapped you with a number of charges and taken your remaining child off you.

I'd figure I have nothing left to lose. I also imagine my mental health would be very poor by this point.

I also think it fits for her to be harassing a POI. If you think about it, she was close to GJ, he had a particular line of inquiry that was possibly not continued once he was removed. I will not be at all surprised if it comes to light that it actually is a POI.

 

[katydid23]

My guess is that she find out where her foster daughter went and was trying to contact her or something like that. Especially if she is with bio family now. JMO

 

[Detective Willy]

Is there a chance that the FFC could have a nervous breakdown? There has been a great deal of pressure put on her and the MFC in the last 6 months and IMO something will have to give this year.

 

[katydid23]

Is there a chance that the FFC could have a nervous breakdown? There has been a great deal of pressure put on her and the MFC in the last 6 months and IMO something will have to give this year.

Yep, if she is guilty, she is likely having a nervous breakdown.
And if she is innocent, she is likely having a nervous breakdown now.

That kind of pressure being brought to their door probably caused an emotional, mental and physical breakdown, Guilty or Innocent. JMO

 

[iiiii's]

Bumping drsleuth's timeline (taken from the inquest evidence and CO's book). This might help.
There are a lot of entries for the time period you are looking at.

It says that FM drove FGM's car after 10:30am.

Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

From my notes from the inquest, the car drive was talked about before meeting with AMS, so before 10.30 am. FFC also said she was with AMS when MFC arrived home. AMS evidence refutes that claim as does the inquest evidence, that FFC went to AMS home at 10.40. MFC arrived back at 10.35 and began searching immediately. After that time, in the timeline there is no mention from anyone of FFC taking her mother's car to Batar Creek rd, and by the time FFC was returning from LH's place after 11.30 am, she was summoned back to 48 Benaroon Dr. and did not come out again due to other police protocols and processes that needed to take place. MOO

 

[JLZ]

My guess is that she find out where her foster daughter went and was trying to contact her or something like that. Especially if she is with bio family now. JMO

I surmise that former foster daughter will also be a witness in the assault case against the foster parents. If foster daughter is the person allegedly stalked, FFC is in the territory of possibly intimidating a witness.

 

[JBowie]

Are the foster parents separated now? I have heard conflicting reports.

I would not be surprised if they are separated. IMO, regardless of guilt or innocence, not too many marriages could survive the sort of turmoil and stress this one has been subject to over a 10 year period.

 

[Awakening]

Now FF has also been charged

William Tyrrell's foster mum is hit with new stalking and intimidation charge | Daily Mail Online


William Tyrrell's foster parents BOTH charged with stalking weeks after his foster father was accused of giving 'false or misleading evidence' to a secretive Crime Commission

 

[Awakening]

Article says;

"The charges of stalk, intimidate intend fear of physical or mental harm are domestic related, according to court documents."

So perhaps they were stalking each other?

 

[JBowie]

Now FF has also been charged

William Tyrrell's foster mum is hit with new stalking and intimidation charge | Daily Mail Online


William Tyrrell's foster parents BOTH charged with stalking weeks after his foster father was accused of giving 'false or misleading evidence' to a secretive Crime Commission

Good grief!

Makes me think that witness interference may be the motive behind these alleged occurrences.

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

This is slowly unraveling for them imo.

The police have been very confident since the latest team has done fresh investigations and searches. I think they know what has happened but they just require more evidence to make the case go to court and be comprehensive.

Even though so much info is suppressed, it’s not hard to join the dots of all these charges that the FFC’s have been involved in. Imo

In any case this could potentially provide part of news that leads to the end of solving the case of missing William.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I very much doubt it.

In any case this could potentially provide part of news that leads to the end of solving the case of missing William.

 

[SleepyJoe]

I'm on the fence and this latest charge doesn't sway me either way.

If she was guilty then harassing police fits.

If she is innocent then harassing police also fits.

Imagine for a moment you are innocent. The police have not only failed to find your son but they've accused you of his murder, slapped you with a number of charges and taken your remaining child off you.

I'd figure I have nothing left to lose. I also imagine my mental health would be very poor by this point.

BBM Respectfully, Awakening, William was not "her son". She was his temporary guardian but he was not her possession ie "hers". And regardless of how distressed one is, the law is the law and harassment and intimidation of anyone is definitely not ok. A reasonable person in such circumstances would seek help and not make another person feel unsafe because of their inability to tolerate their own internal distress.

 

[Underbelly]

BBM Respectfully, Awakening, William was not "her son". She was his temporary guardian but he was not her possession ie "hers". And regardless of how distressed one is, the law is the law and harassment and intimidation of anyone is definitely not ok. A reasonable person in such circumstances would seek help and not make another person feel unsafe because of their inability to tolerate their own internal distress.

Someone might have a 'mental health issue' for many years or even decades without realising it, even a reasonable person. I also doubt that 'distress' is the main issue for the FFP's in relation to that.