Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #70

[KateM]

I don't know why it bothers people so much. It is not as if anyone is going to suddenly come forward and say "oh yes, 7½ years ago I saw FM doing such-and-such". Nobody is going to have that kind of memory. imo

The (alleged assault) case involves a child. Even slimy pedos have their names suppressed about cases involving children. To protect the children (so they say).

And the Crime Commission usually deals with secretive matters (at least they are secret while the Crime Commission is having its hearings). Suppression is understandable in secretive matters.

imo

Did BS or PS have their names supressed?

 

[iiiii's]

It appears the information was discovered and released to the police by an informant. It could be a financial investigator working for the NSW Crime Commission, or an ATO employee, etc. I’m thinking it’s something along those lines, an unsworn person. JMO

So interesting, why would an informant be at a mention? Could it be a journalist or another professional she has worked with. Does she know who this informant is? If there were various people in attendance at court today in a "supportive" capacity, she might become very paranoid if she doesn't know who this informant is. Pure Speculation on my part and probably not realistic.

Also, which hearing would they be referring to, the inquest or the NSWCC?

 

[SouthAussie]

So interesting, why would an informant be at a mention? Could it be a journalist or another professional she has worked with. Does she know who this informant is? If there were various people in attendance at court today in a "supportive" capacity, she might become very paranoid if she doesn't know who this informant is. Pure Speculation on my part and probably not realistic.

Also, which hearing would they be referring to, the inquest or the NSWCC?

FM didn't appear at today's hearing. I don't think she would have seen the police informant or the spectators in the public gallery.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks for the correction, for the life of me I don't know where I read it was not in relation to WT.

I imagine that you probably read the police statement, which doesn't say what the matter is about. Hence our pages of speculation.


"On Tuesday, Strike Force Rosann detectives issued a Future Court Attendance Notice to a 56-year-old woman for knowingly give false or misleading evidence at a hearing," police said in a statement on Thursday.

William Tyrrell's foster mother hit with fresh charge

The foster mother of missing boy William Tyrrell has been accused of lying to the NSW's crime commission - less than a week after being charged with stalking and intimidation.

www.skynews.com.au

 

[sleepinoz]

IMO the 'Informant' is actually a Police Officer, as below in regards to AVO's.

Representations by lawyers acting for persons who have been served with a court attendance notice should be directed to the Commander the of the relevant Police Area Command, Police District or Specialist area responsible for the informant police officer.

Legal - NSW Police Public Site

www.police.nsw.gov.au

 

[Doesitmakesense]

I think we need to hear what her mental health defence is before believing that the contention is that she is not (or was not) competent and responsible for her own actions.

That is a good point

 

[bearbear]

Would you say these same things if they were the bio parents and their boy went missing, and presumed dead? Would you want them to make a public apology for 'losing' their child?

of course not, william wasnt their child, they were employed by the govt to care for him and keep him safe until he was 18
he still had a mother and father who he had contact with

 

[sleepinoz]

of course not, william wasnt their child, they were employed by the govt to care for him and keep him safe until he was 18
he still had a mother and father who he had contact with

So it's not the fact that William is missing, or if he went missing on the Bio's watch - it's just the fact that they are fosters?

 

[bearbear]

no its because they lost someone elses child and seemingly showing no accountability or remorse for it,
they chose to be entrusted to care for him and his sister

 

[JBowie]

I wonder what the source is for that information, or if it is an assumption.

Given that no one else has reported this (yet), my guess is that it's an assumption by the ABC based on the fact that Rosann detectives brought the charges.

 

[LolaAngelina]

no its because they lost someone elses child and seemingly showing no accountability or remorse for it,
they chose to be entrusted to care for him and his sister

Remorse or accountability for what? Again do we ask the Morcombes to take accountability for letting their 13yo go to the shops by himself?

 

[JLZ]

no its because they lost someone elses child and seemingly showing no accountability or remorse for it,
they chose to be entrusted to care for him and his sister

I wonder if their arrangements with FACS restrict them from saying anything that could be construed as an admission of fault (short of criminal responsibility) because that could compromise FACS in various ways.

 

[JLZ]

I wonder what the source is for that information, or if it is an assumption.

I have posted information (by the DT and The Australian) about the confirmation of the photo time as 9:37am, but that has been questioned here because the source wasn't named/identified.

The information might well have been mentioned in court and heard by the reporter.

 

[bearbear]

Remorse or accountability for what? Again do we ask the Morcombes to take accountability for letting their 13yo go to the shops by himself?

for losing someone elses child, the morecombes were daniels parents, they werent employed to look after him,
they were his parents who gave birth to him

 

[LIBPOP]

How did the Crime Commission come to be involved in William Tyrrell’s disappearance? Do we know?

 

[drsleuth]

no its because they lost someone elses child and seemingly showing no accountability or remorse for it,
they chose to be entrusted to care for him and his sister

So going by your reasoning, the bios have absolutely no responsible in raising their own kids??

I wonder if they have any remorse & feel any accountability for losing their own kids??

Thank god there are people who put up their hands to look after these kids that the bio families can't/ won't due to what ever reasons IMO

I take my hat of to them

 

[JBowie]

The information might well have been mentioned in court and heard by the reporter.

If it were mentioned in court, my expectation would be that every reporter present would have heard it and thus I would have expected it to be published by more outlets than just the ABC.

 

[bearbear]

So going by your reasoning, the bios have absolutely no responsible in raising their own kids??

I wonder if they have any remorse & feel any accountability for losing their own kids??

Thank god there are people who put up their hands to look after these kids that the bio families can't/ won't due to what ever reasons IMO

I take my hat of to them

all parents have responsibility for the welfare of their children and if they fail we have usually wonderful foster families to care for them, i feel sure williams bio family have great sadness and remorse every day for allegedly not getting their lives together for william and his sister and getting them removed, maybe they felt a small hope that the children would be returned when their lives improved, and they were trying for their return when william disappeared, the amazing carers who choose to care for these children and promise to love and keep them safe are all aware these children in care have biological families who may one day choose to be in their childs lives again, these carers are paid to keep the children safe so id expect if you lose someone elses child you would show remorse, maybe the fcs have, privately?

 

[LolaAngelina]

all parents have responsibility for the welfare of their children and if they fail we have usually wonderful foster families to care for them, i feel sure williams bio family have great sadness and remorse every day for allegedly not getting their lives together for william and his sister and getting them removed, maybe they felt a small hope that the children would be returned when their lives improved, and they were trying for their return when william disappeared, the amazing carers who choose to care for these children and promise to love and keep them safe are all aware these children in care have biological families who may one day choose to be in their childs lives again, these carers are paid to keep the children safe so id expect if you lose someone elses child you would show remorse, maybe the fcs have, privately?

BBM They were in permanent care, they were never being returned. I haven’t seen any evidence they were fighting these permanent orders. I have no doubt if there was any paperwork or anyone that could back this up we would have seen it.

 

[SouthAussie]

all parents have responsibility for the welfare of their children and if they fail we have usually wonderful foster families to care for them, i feel sure williams bio family have great sadness and remorse every day for allegedly not getting their lives together for william and his sister and getting them removed,

So, you feel sure that the BF feel sadness and remorse, and you feel sure that the FF don't?
Seems to me they have both (BM and FP) been on TV and their pain has been evident.


The FP were not 'paid employees'. And it pains me to hear that said by anyone.

The social workers and case workers are paid employees. They get to go home at night and leave the job at work.
They get paid holidays, sick leave, superannuation.

I personally know a set of FP.
$200 a week is a pittance for the time and effort they put into their foster child. It nowhere near covers all of his expenses. It doesn't give him hugs when he has had a bad day. It doesn't drive him to a shop 3 hours away to get him fitted for the special shoes he needs, and it doesn't pay for those shoes. It doesn't sit with him at night when he is struggling with his homework, and try to help him work the problems out.

That $200 does not cover the love, support, and caring they extend through every minute of his days.