Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

[T-dawg420]

People who speak like that are sometimes very manipulative. They know that if they get talking rubbish for long enough, you'll give up and go away. You can't pin them down and they'll talk through wet cement.

Chaff and redirect.

 

[T-dawg420]

Yes, where did the idea that FGM had dementia come from? I’ve never been able to find it out.

The lady in the walkthrough did not appear either physically or mentally impaired. She seemed very well for her age.

She seems to have been a keen newspaper reader. Interested in the world and her community.

I don’t understand why her version of events was so readily dismissed. That aspects of her recount contradict that of the foster carers should have been a red flag.

To me it almost feels like possible excuses made after the fact. Such as, when the FFC came up with the cars in the street on the drive to the airport, and not when she made the phone call (where she answers no to the operators question about anything suspicious like cars or people, the actual phone call is on ep 3 the last roar, where’s william podcast).

It was then made clear that memory recall does work like that, which is true, but it is also true it could be a convenient excuse imo. i just find it hard to grasp that if you believed your child was abducted from the word go, as is stated by the FFC, you would not recall suspicious cars in that area when you made the phone call imo.

If you even suspected for a second the missing child could have been abducted, surely your memory recall would go straight to the strange cars sitting in weird positions in a cul-de-sac that gets very little traffic on any given day. Imo, moo.

 

[drsleuth]

That's interesting. Who brought up dementia? That would be convenient.

To me it almost feels like possible excuses made after the fact. Such as, when the FFC came up with the cars in the street on the drive to the airport, and not when she made the phone call (where she answers no to the operators question about anything suspicious like cars or people, the actual phone call is on ep 3 the last roar, where’s william podcast).

It was then made clear that memory recall does work like that, which is true, but it is also true it could be a convenient excuse imo. i just find it hard to grasp that if you believed your child was abducted from the word go, as is stated by the FFC, you would not recall suspicious cars in that area when you made the phone call imo.

If you even suspected for a second the missing child could have been abducted, surely your memory recall would go straight to the strange cars sitting in weird positions in a cul-de-sac that gets very little traffic on any given day. Imo, moo.

I believe it was discussed here on WS's by some members, with no facts or links at all to back it up IMO

It has never been reported that the FGM has any form of diagnosed dementia.

eg

Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #63

Maybe, FGM usually visited them, they went up because of the sale of the property. jmo FFC said on podcast she hadn't seen her since 'dad' died.

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[Warshawski]

BBM They have? What is this witness testimony? (Even if the witness is not yet named, I am presuming that you have an MSM source for the actual testimony.)

the court today," counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock, SC, said.
William, 3, disappeared from the front yard of his foster-grandmother's property in Benaroon Drive, in Kendall on the Mid North Coast, in September 2014.

The inquest so far has led to a new witness coming forward to police, he said.
Deputy state coroner Harriet Grahame said that there was nothing about William's disappearance that would make it a "cold case".

as per: William Tyrrell inquest adjourned over coronavirus, investigation goes on

Inquest into missing toddler William Tyrrell halted abruptly

The hearings were scheduled to conclude on Friday but have been stopped unexpectedly.

7news.com.au

 

[SouthAussie]

the court today," counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock, SC, said.
William, 3, disappeared from the front yard of his foster-grandmother's property in Benaroon Drive, in Kendall on the Mid North Coast, in September 2014.

The inquest so far has led to a new witness coming forward to police, he said.
Deputy state coroner Harriet Grahame said that there was nothing about William's disappearance that would make it a "cold case".

as per: William Tyrrell inquest adjourned over coronavirus, investigation goes on

Inquest into missing toddler William Tyrrell halted abruptly

The hearings were scheduled to conclude on Friday but have been stopped unexpectedly.

7news.com.au

Thanks, Warsh. Though that doesn't seem to be what OP was speaking of. As it makes no mention of FM.

This was the post I responded to (then OP said they didn't mean 'witness' they meant 'evidence' in post 278)

Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

Seeing as how these things were not done until GJ was on the case, I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect that it was GJ who decided to even have suspicions about Spedding. And for me, I link that to his prior involvement with Spedding's ex-wife's brother, the horrible child rapist/killer...

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[LolaAngelina]

Thanks, Warsh. Though that doesn't seem to be what OP was speaking of. As it makes no mention of FM.

This was the post I responded to (then OP said they didn't mean 'witness' they meant 'evidence' in post 278)

Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

Seeing as how these things were not done until GJ was on the case, I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect that it was GJ who decided to even have suspicions about Spedding. And for me, I link that to his prior involvement with Spedding's ex-wife's brother, the horrible child rapist/killer...

www.websleuths.com

Yes that post says a new witness that implicates FFC? Where did that info come from?

 

[Warshawski]

If you zoom in there’s no white neckline it’s just his neck.

Are you able to post one of your ‘zoomed in’ please Lola, as I’ve tried to do that & still see white

 

[Warshawski]

Thanks, Warsh. Though that doesn't seem to be what OP was speaking of. As it makes no mention of FM.

This was the post I responded to (then OP said they didn't mean 'witness' they meant 'evidence' in post 278)

Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

Seeing as how these things were not done until GJ was on the case, I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect that it was GJ who decided to even have suspicions about Spedding. And for me, I link that to his prior involvement with Spedding's ex-wife's brother, the horrible child rapist/killer...

www.websleuths.com

Apologies SA, I thought the mention was of a new witness coming forward in the case of William Tyrell being missing.

 

[Warshawski]

Maybe it’s just me. I still see a white tee underneath. It very well could be his skin. Doesn’t look like it to me. Moo

I see the ‘colour’ that you’re referring to but it’s very difficult to tell what it is with such a unclear image

 

[SouthAussie]

Apologies SA, I thought the mention was of a new witness coming forward in the case of William Tyrell being missing.

No, it was about an unknown someone coming forward and 'implicating FM'. Which I found very interesting and wanted to see more about that, but apparently OP said the wrong word.

 

[sleepinoz]

Are you able to post one of your ‘zoomed in’ please Lola, as I’ve tried to do that & still see white

Here are a few different versions, some lightened some not. I think you will find that it's just his skin shining in the shots that are over pixelated.

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[KateM]

Chaff and redirect.

The 5 photos that were released by the Coroner were taken within a 2min 39sec timespan.

9:35:05 (photo 1102)
9:35:19 (photo 1103)
9:35:28 (photo 1104)
9:37:29 (photo 1105)
9:37:44 (the famous pic)

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/william-tyrrell-new-photos-released-to-five-years-after-little-boy-disappeared/news-story/9a45ac6b77df80787e601878974b826c

Janet Fife-Yeomans (chief reporter at DT) says that the photo metadata has been confirmed, that the times are accurate, in her article dated 14/4/22. She does not quote a source for this info.
Her comment says ..... "Metadata has confirmed the photograph was indeed taken at that time after questions during the inquest into William’s disappearance that it may have been taken two hours earlier."

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Caroline Overington also seems to indicate that the metadata has been confirmed, in her article of 19/11/21.
She says .... "But William was photographed in his now famous Spider-Man suit at 9.37am, meaning he must have still been alive when his foster father left the house, or else he couldn’t have been in that picture."

Behind the silence lies so much pain, and so many questions

Close to giving up, or giving in.

amp.theaustralian.com.au

I wouldn't put too much weight on her words.

 

[FromGermany1]

"Them" - only one of "them" has been named a POI not both. AFAIK

That only one of them is a poi atm and the other has charges as well, is interesting (at William's or the bio's expense ).

 

[SLouTh]

the court today," counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock, SC, said.
William, 3, disappeared from the front yard of his foster-grandmother's property in Benaroon Drive, in Kendall on the Mid North Coast, in September 2014.

The inquest so far has led to a new witness coming forward to police, he said.
Deputy state coroner Harriet Grahame said that there was nothing about William's disappearance that would make it a "cold case".

as per: William Tyrrell inquest adjourned over coronavirus, investigation goes on

Inquest into missing toddler William Tyrrell halted abruptly

The hearings were scheduled to conclude on Friday but have been stopped unexpectedly.

7news.com.au

I must admit that I thought that we have already heard from this particular "new witness".....at the following tranche of the inquest...

The inquest heard Ms Baker learned years later that the bushland behind her home had been home to Frank Abbott, a convicted criminal widely regarded in the community as a danger to children.

That new information prompted her to report the scream to police.

Woman heard boy's screams near where William Tyrrell went missing, inquest told

'It was a scream and it was silence pretty quickly.'

7news.com.au

I could have misunderstood? I had thought the "new evidence" was that the FM "was seen driving that morning".....

Police said William's foster mother was seen driving along the road on the morning the boy vanished.

William Tyrrell foster parents' stalk charge on same child

William Tyrrell's foster parents have been accused this year of stalking the same child police allege they assaulted last year, and will face court later this month on the allegations.

www.dailymail.co.uk

AFAIK, we do not know who witnessed this???

 

[KateM]

To me it almost feels like possible excuses made after the fact. Such as, when the FFC came up with the cars in the street on the drive to the airport, and not when she made the phone call (where she answers no to the operators question about anything suspicious like cars or people, the actual phone call is on ep 3 the last roar, where’s william podcast).

It was then made clear that memory recall does work like that, which is true, but it is also true it could be a convenient excuse imo. i just find it hard to grasp that if you believed your child was abducted from the word go, as is stated by the FFC, you would not recall suspicious cars in that area when you made the phone call imo.

If you even suspected for a second the missing child could have been abducted, surely your memory recall would go straight to the strange cars sitting in weird positions in a cul-de-sac that gets very little traffic on any given day. Imo, moo.

Her sister must of prompted her memory. Cough.

 

[LolaAngelina]

That only one of them is a poi atm and the other has charges as well, is interesting (at William's or the bio's expense ).

The bios expense? I don’t understand what you mean?

 

[LolaAngelina]

I wouldn't put too much weight on her words.

Whose? The journalist? Is there some issues with Janet?

 

[SouthAussie]

Deathbed confession. I wonder how much weight the Coroner will put on this. It seems very important.


According to a statement lodged with police by Kirston Okpegbue, Mr Porter said: 'I didn't do anything wrong, all I did was give my best mate and the boy a lift.'

'Who?' Ms Okpegbue asked.

'The boy that went missing down in Kendall?' he replied.

She asked: 'Are you talking about William Tyrrell?'

He said: 'Yes'.

The documents revealed police have taken the claims seriously, investigating the movements of Porter's car around the time of William's disappearance.

Extraordinary trove of William Tyrrell evidence released to the public

The coroner investigating the disappearance of William Tyrrell has released an extraordinary trove of information and photos including a new picture from the day he vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[sleepinoz]

That only one of them is a poi atm and the other has charges as well, is interesting (at William's or the bio's expense ).

Yes, only 1 has been named as a POI, the other hasn't and this thread is about Williams disappearance not the other charges. Even though they are related it is not, and has been mentioned in just about every MSM article that these charges are not related to Williams disappearance.

 

[FromGermany1]

The bios expense? I don’t understand what you mean?

That I find it "interesting", is probably not something, they would like to hear about their missing son and the unsolved case.