Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #72

[Mauig’ma]

Maybe she pulled over for more than one vehicle ??

It is a well used road IMO & IME & find it very hard to believe that she pulled over & disposed of little William or "passed him on" , along side this road, where the chances of her being seen were quite high IMO

Imo if ffc pulled over for more than one vehicle, she would have stated so. Imo Le didn’t say they thought she threw William out the door/window. Only that she may have discarded something. ie: shoe maybe? Moo

 

[nightrider17]

Further to the FFGM being out of sync with timing.


If instead they ate breakfast at 9.00

And the FFGM washed the dishes and they moved to the back patio at 9.15 MFC leaves without eating breakfast with them, they spend 1 hour on the back patio doing colouring and dice and this includes the photo. Time 10.15.

Why do you thing the FFGM thought it was 8.00 having breakfast? MOO

 

[Detective Willy]

Again, I have problems with the fosters' version of events, particularly the FM's, but I cannot see either of them withstanding intense and thorough grillings by police over a period of time if they had disposed of William's body.

Experienced homicide detectives know how to demolish alibis and drive wedges into cracks between versions of events.

Self preservation is a very strong motive, probably the strongest thing we have.

How can we explain so many anomalies in nearly every recorded thing that we have heard from the FFC?

It just smells like BS and she changes her stories so often.

How do we explain this?

I think Strike Force Rosann called BS too and that is why the focus is where it is now. IMO.

 

[Mauig’ma]

I for one can’t wait for the foster parents court dates regarding the alleged abuse charges. I think it’ll shed a lot of light on these people and what they’re capable of. Moo

 

[drsleuth]

Imo if ffc pulled over for more than one vehicle, she would have stated so. Imo Le didn’t say they thought she threw William out the door/window. Only that she may have discarded something. ie: shoe maybe? Moo

Still the chances of being seen remain high IMO. It's not really a quite backroad IMO

We don't know what the police know or were told by either the FFC or anyone else ( rightly so IMO ) , we hear snippets of info that is reported in MSM & depending on which publication you read , it varies frequently it seems

 

[Couldbe]

I for one can’t wait for the foster parents court dates regarding the alleged abuse charges. I think it’ll shed a lot of light on these people and what they’re capable of. Moo

Yes Mauig'ma, and the alleged 'Lying' charges Hearing on 11 October 2022.

 

[JLZ]

2) - 3 of us having breakfast - wrong 4

I think the number at table was variable throughout the course of the meal. But when I sit down to dinner with my sister and her family, which happens occasionally, I always have to count to think how many of us there are, including me. Somehow it's not intuitive.

 

[JLZ]

Further to the FFGM being out of sync with timing.


If instead they ate breakfast at 9.00

And the FFGM washed the dishes and they moved to the back patio at 9.15 MFC leaves without eating breakfast with them, they spend 1 hour on the back patio doing colouring and dice and this includes the photo. Time 10.15.

Why do you thing the FFGM thought it was 8.00 having breakfast? MOO

It depends how long you allow for breakfast. Suppose they were starting at around 8 and were finishing around 8:45, then there was the cleaning up while FFC played with the children in the yard, so that perhaps they were setting themselves up on the patio at around 9 or a little after.

 

[Couldbe]

I'm not looking at a particular person and I wouldn't be pointing if I were. The relationship between the two families was, we are told, distant and hostile. That is what the people in the families say, and if there had been a conspiracy it might suit them to give that impression. Secondly the hostility we observe there ourselves is after William's disappearance. If there was once sympathy and co-operation between some elements of the two families, it would have been affected by what happened, where according to my scenario they blame each other (nobody understands, or not all of them understand, how things went awry that day; if there is a 'middle man', what ultimately was William's fate.)

JMO - 'middle man' or 'anyone in the know' has resisted the temptation to 'spill the beans' and seek the $1million reward.....

 

[JLZ]

JMO - 'middle man' or 'anyone in the know' has resisted the temptation to 'spill the beans' and seek the $1million reward.....

No, the middle man is the nearest thing to the real abductor! The person who knows everything, probably the circumstances of the death if that's what happened. That is to say, the person most guilty.

 

[Couldbe]

Self preservation is a very strong motive, probably the strongest thing we have.

How can we explain so many anomalies in nearly every recorded thing that we have heard from the FFC?

It just smells like BS and she changes her stories so often.

How do we explain this?

I think Strike Force Rosann called BS too and that is why the focus is where it is now. IMO.

JMO - Once one outright lie is detected, then the possibility of more lies being told becomes stronger.

 

[Chrissy74]

No, the middle man is the nearest thing to the real abductor! The person who knows everything, probably the circumstances of the death if that's what happened. That is to say, the person most guilty.

A phantom JLZ?

 

[Couldbe]

I became a bit excited when I saw this photo .... until a closer look showed the person in the striped jumper (similar to the jumper worn by FFGM in her walkthrough) to be a man.

 

[JLZ]

I became a bit excited when I saw this photo .... until a closer look showed the person in the striped jumper (similar to the jumper worn by FFGM in her walkthrough).
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I had a good look at it too! It's similar but not the same.

 

[JLZ]

A phantom JLZ?

Oh, the whole scenario is a fantasy.

 

[Couldbe]

MOO - Does anyone think that the simmering anger towards the 10 year old little girl …. that appears to have been directed towards her in the alleged assault, will now disappear from within the FFC?

OR would it be likely that it is only a matter of time before the FFC will ‘break down’ again and do something rash?

I guess only time will tell but her Psychologist, if she is still consulting with one, would have a fair idea of that occurring again. Of course, Psychologists are bound by confidentiality in connection with their ‘patients’. Except information has now been shared by FFC's Psychologist in her Mental Health Hearing.

 

[SLouTh]

MOO - Does anyone think that the simmering anger towards the 10 year old little girl …. that appears to have been directed towards her in the alleged assault, will now disappear from within the FFC?

OR would it be likely that it is only a matter of time before the FFC will ‘break down’ again and do something rash?

I guess only time will tell but her Psychologist, if she is still consulting with one, would have a fair idea of that occurring again. Of course, Psychologists are bound by confidentiality in connection with their ‘patients’. Except information has now been shared by FFC's Psychologist in her Mental Health Hearing.

It was unlikely that SD would ever re-offend, the court was told.

William Tyrrell’s foster mother denied mental health application over alleged assault of young girl

Magistrate dismisses application for woman’s charges of assault and intimidation to be dealt with under Mental Health Act

www.theguardian.com

I am guessing that this statement was made to the court due to the children being removed, most likely permanently.

I guess it would also depend on how much pressure Police are applying behind the scenes? And how much pressure FM can withstand…

Past behaviour is generally a predictor of future behaviour, however coping mechanisms can be learned ….

imo

 

[bearbear]

ive been thinking of little william at only 9 months old, a baby, being taken from his family, he must have been distraught and wanting his mother, its around that age babies are very clingy and only want their mothers, its so sad he didnt bond with ffc, surely at that age he would have settled into a routine with her and with lots of cuddles and love and patience would have adapted and accepted her, especially with the familiar face of his older sister there too?

 

[Couldbe]

It was unlikely that SD would ever re-offend, the court was told.

William Tyrrell’s foster mother denied mental health application over alleged assault of young girl

Magistrate dismisses application for woman’s charges of assault and intimidation to be dealt with under Mental Health Act

www.theguardian.com

I am guessing that this statement was made to the court due to the children being removed, most likely permanently.

I guess it would also depend on how much pressure Police are applying behind the scenes? And how much pressure FM can withstand…

Past behaviour is generally a predictor of future behaviour, however coping mechanisms can be learned ….

imo

Thank you SLouTH

There are Bail conditions to be complied with, so that might be added pressure for her (although those conditions may not be too burdensome).

 

[SouthAussie]

ive been thinking of little william at only 9 months old, a baby, being taken from his family, he must have been distraught and wanting his mother, its around that age babies are very clingy and only want their mothers, its so sad he didnt bond with ffc, surely at that age he would have settled into a routine with her and with lots of cuddles and love and patience would have adapted and accepted her, especially with the familiar face of his older sister there too?

I don't think it was so much that FM didn't bond with William.
It was more that he bonded with FD faster and stronger - FM was the source of that information, herself.

Then William's behavioural issues came into play later on. The ones in which FM was in touch with FACS about.

William spent 80% of his whole life with his foster family. Saw his BM once every two months, then once a month, IIRC. For a couple of hours each time.

He was probably (imo) just starting to understand that he had two mothers. A confusing time for the little guy. But he would have likely settled down from that blip in the road.

imo