Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #72

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Senior Constable Christopher Rowley is a police officer attached to the station at Laurieton. He lives in Kendall, and he has three children.
He was by chance just nine minutes away from Benaroon Drive, behind the wheel of a fully marked Mitsubishi Pajero, call sign ‘Laurieton 18’, when the emergency call from William’s foster mum came up on his mobile data terminal.
A three-year-old was missing. He swung straight in that direction, arriving on the scene at 11.06 a.m.
A vehicle from a second station – ‘Wauchope 17’, with Senior Constable Tanya Smith behind the wheel – wasn’t far behind.
Senior Constable Rowley was near the intersection of Ellendale Crescent when he saw William’s foster mum walking down the middle of the road, distressed and crying.
He stopped the car, and asked her: ‘You’re the mum?’
‘I’m the mum, he calls me Mum, I’m the foster mum,’ she said.
Senior Constable Rowley asked how long William had been missing and where he’d last been seen, and he asked her: ‘Who’s at home?’ ‘I think my mother is,’ she replied, ‘with my daughter, Lindsay.’
‘I need somebody at the house. More police will be coming. Has the house been searched?’
‘Yes, yes.’
‘I’ll go there now,’ Senior Constable Rowley said, because police, they know that people panic, and they don’t always look properly. He pressed on, toward the house, taking careful note of its position. Benaroon Drive is a dogleg street, which is to say that it suddenly turns right, just before the bitumen runs out, into the forest.
The house at number 48 sits on the corner, near that right-hand turn.
‘No fences.’ That was one of the notes Senior Constable Rowley made.
He went to the front door, and William’s foster nana let him in so he could search the house room by room. He almost immediately ran into William’s foster dad coming out of the bathroom, crying.
‘You’re the father?’

from the book by caroline overington missing william tyrrell page 30 chapter 2
 
  • #882
Could anyone please help... I am trying to find the 1st time that reference was made to the last photograph of William that was captured at 9.37.... please?
 
  • #883
Could anyone please help... I am trying to find the 1st time that reference was made to the last photograph of William that was captured at 9.37.... please?
Do you mean the dual times on the photos??? That was released at the inquest …. That was the 12 Sept, 2019.

Or do you mean when the original photo was released to media? That was after Michelle White arrived in Kendall, she arrived on the Saturday, as per CO’s Book Missing William Tyrrell.

Also Craddock made reference to the photo on the first day of the inquest… as to proof of life “of that we can be sure” or words to that effect ….
 
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Could anyone please help... I am trying to find the 1st time that reference was made to the last photograph of William that was captured at 9.37.... please?
Found this report of missing William published on 13 September 2014 at 9.30 am (Note it was updated the following day). Maybe the update was to then include the iconic photo!

 
  • #885
Do you mean the dual times on the photos??? That was released at the inquest …. That was the 12 Sept, 2019.

Or do you mean when the original photo was released to media? That was after Michelle White arrived in Kendall, she arrived on the Saturday, as per CO’s Book Missing William Tyrrell.

Also Craddock made reference to the photo on the first day of the inquest… as to proof of life “of that we can be sure” or words to that effect ….
Thanks SLouth, I wondered when the photo was first mentioned, so it must have been at the Inquest then.
 
  • #886
Found this report of missing William published on 13 September 2014 at 9.30 am (Note it was updated the following day). Maybe the update was to then include the iconic photo!

Thanks so much Couldbe.
 
  • #887
... and didn't know, who slept where in the two bedrooms. That seemed odd for a grandma.
I’ve been wondering if FFGM was already in bed when they arrived that night.

but I guess if children were already asleep and carried into bed, she wouldn’t necessarily have followed them down the hall to see which rooms they were in .
 
  • #888
Senior Constable Christopher Rowley is a police officer attached to the station at Laurieton. He lives in Kendall, and he has three children.
He was by chance just nine minutes away from Benaroon Drive, behind the wheel of a fully marked Mitsubishi Pajero, call sign ‘Laurieton 18’, when the emergency call from William’s foster mum came up on his mobile data terminal.
A three-year-old was missing. He swung straight in that direction, arriving on the scene at 11.06 a.m.
A vehicle from a second station – ‘Wauchope 17’, with Senior Constable Tanya Smith behind the wheel – wasn’t far behind.
Senior Constable Rowley was near the intersection of Ellendale Crescent when he saw William’s foster mum walking down the middle of the road, distressed and crying.
He stopped the car, and asked her: ‘You’re the mum?’
‘I’m the mum, he calls me Mum, I’m the foster mum,’ she said.
Senior Constable Rowley asked how long William had been missing and where he’d last been seen, and he asked her: ‘Who’s at home?’ ‘I think my mother is,’ she replied, ‘with my daughter, Lindsay.’
‘I need somebody at the house. More police will be coming. Has the house been searched?’
‘Yes, yes.’
‘I’ll go there now,’ Senior Constable Rowley said, because police, they know that people panic, and they don’t always look properly. He pressed on, toward the house, taking careful note of its position. Benaroon Drive is a dogleg street, which is to say that it suddenly turns right, just before the bitumen runs out, into the forest.
The house at number 48 sits on the corner, near that right-hand turn.
‘No fences.’ That was one of the notes Senior Constable Rowley made.
He went to the front door, and William’s foster nana let him in so he could search the house room by room. He almost immediately ran into William’s foster dad coming out of the bathroom, crying.
‘You’re the father?’

from the book by caroline overington missing william tyrrell page 30 chapter 2
In the interview with Police MFC says he spent 90 minutes looking for William in the surrounding area when he arrived home.

He says this at the 90 second mark.


But, he was coming out of the bathroom crying around 11.10am which was around 30 minutes after arriving home.

His timeline does not match up with what he said in the interview either?
 
  • #889
I’ve been wondering if FFGM was already in bed when they arrived that night.

but I guess if children were already asleep and carried into bed, she wouldn’t necessarily have followed them down the hall to see which rooms they were in .
in the caroline overington book apparantly mfc and children went straight to bed and ffc and fgm stayed up chatting,
with fgm sleeping in the next morning while the children woke early and got toys out of the toy cupboard and mfc prepared to leave for his meeting
 
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MOO - Does anyone think that the simmering anger towards the 10 year old little girl …. that appears to have been directed towards her in the alleged assault, will now disappear from within the FFC?

OR would it be likely that it is only a matter of time before the FFC will ‘break down’ again and do something rash?

I guess only time will tell but her Psychologist, if she is still consulting with one, would have a fair idea of that occurring again. Of course, Psychologists are bound by confidentiality in connection with their ‘patients’. Except information has now been shared by FFC's Psychologist in her Mental Health Hearing.

It was unlikely that SD would ever re-offend, the court was told.


I am guessing that this statement was made to the court due to the children being removed, most likely permanently.

I guess it would also depend on how much pressure Police are applying behind the scenes? And how much pressure FM can withstand…

Past behaviour is generally a predictor of future behaviour, however coping mechanisms can be learned ….

imo
We don't know what precipitated the assault.

Perhaps the FD rolled dice incorrectly.

JMO
 
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This article was written and published on the following Thursday after William’s disappearance (6 days later):

JMO - NB: Early description of the details … which seem to have differed over time e.g. “The phone on which the last photograph of William was taken has been analysed — the photo was taken “within an hour” of his disappearance”.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...l/news-story/55fe696ecdf5361c3f164bec8bd03e4d

"What happened to missing boy William Tyrell?

GREG BEARUP


FEATURE WRITER, THE WEEKEND AUSTRALIAN MAGAZINE 12:00AM SEPTEMBER 20, 2014

THE name William seems a bit formal for a three year old, and so throughout the week Superintendent Paul Fehon, a patient, compassionate man, softens it by referring to him always as “young William”.
Fehon has been in daily contact with the distraught parents of William Tyrell since he disappeared from his grandmother’s house at Kendall on the NSW mid-north coast nine days ago, dressed in a Spider-Man suit.

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Fehon says while the initial focus was on finding “young William” in the bush, a team of investigators had looked at other possibilities “from day one”. Detectives were on the scene that afternoon. The “errand” William’s father was on has been investigated. He was where he said he was. The phone on which the last photograph of William was taken has been analysed — the photo was taken “within an hour” of his disappearance. There is no evidence of any family dispute.

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In the interview with Police MFC says he spent 90 minutes looking for William in the surrounding area when he arrived home.

He says this at the 90 second mark.


But, he was coming out of the bathroom crying around 11.10am which was around 30 minutes after arriving home.

His timeline does not match up with what he said in the interview either?

Maybe, he had to go to the toilet before he continued with his search? A call of nature has to be answered even at the most stressful times. I wouldn’t read anything sinister into it, but that’s just me.
I‘d hate to go over every step I took at a highly emotional time and event. I wouldn’t remember a toilet visit. JMO
 
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Maybe, he had to go to the toilet before he continued with his search? A call of nature has to be answered even at the most stressful times. I wouldn’t read anything sinister into it, but that’s just me.
I‘d hate to go over every step I took at a highly emotional time and event. I wouldn’t remember a toilet visit. JMO
Except in this instance, he was confronted by the first officer on the scene coming out of the bathroom crying so it’s less likely you might forgot that imo. The crying seems strange to me and premature given that W had only been missing for a short time. Panic yes, but crying In the bathroom?
 
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Maybe, he had to go to the toilet before he continued with his search? A call of nature has to be answered even at the most stressful times. I wouldn’t read anything sinister into it, but that’s just me.
I‘d hate to go over every step I took at a highly emotional time and event. I wouldn’t remember a toilet visit. JMO
I agree Prime, people cry at far less situations IMO :rolleyes:

The FFC has been crucified about her 000 call for being to calm etc, if she was hysterical / crying etc she'd still be pulled to pieces. No matter what they did that day , it would never be right. There is no "rule" book for how you are to behave when your child is missing...........
 
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Except in this instance, he was confronted by the first officer on the scene coming out of the bathroom crying so it’s less likely you might forgot that imo. The crying seems strange to me and premature given that W had only been missing for a short time. Panic yes, but crying In the bathroom?
I don’t think crying at that stage is unusual, I know some people do …. But I would definitely have been crying by then, with a child missing….

I don’t think he went into the bathroom just to cry…. They could have been simultaneous events ….searching and crying ….???

In CO’s book it states the FF did not know what to believe in the first couple of hours … his mind was wandering as to what could have happened to William….

Chapter 7, Page 98, Missing William Tyrrell.
 
  • #896
In the interview with Police MFC says he spent 90 minutes looking for William in the surrounding area when he arrived home.

He says this at the 90 second mark.


But, he was coming out of the bathroom crying around 11.10am which was around 30 minutes after arriving home.

His timeline does not match up with what he said in the interview either?
I understand where you are coming from here… and it does appear to be a discrepancy, but that is only 7mins of a walkthrough…. They may have done the inside of the house first with the interview with FF …. ???? Like they appear to have done with FGM ….
Pure speculation ….
 
  • #897
There is no "rule" book for how you are to behave when your child is missing...........
So very true ….. and I would suggest that each and everyone of us that follows William’s case would all react and respond differently if placed in the same situation …..
JMO
 
  • #898
Maybe, he had to go to the toilet before he continued with his search? A call of nature has to be answered even at the most stressful times. I wouldn’t read anything sinister into it, but that’s just me.
I‘d hate to go over every step I took at a highly emotional time and event. I wouldn’t remember a toilet visit. JMO
The many deleted messages between the two parents perhaps might have shed a light on the reason, why MFC was crying and FFC was not. IMO
 
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The many deleted messages between the two parents perhaps might have shed a light on the reason, why MFC was crying and FFC was not. IMO

I don't know where the impression comes from that FM was not crying and upset.
The dictionary meaning of distressed is "suffering from extreme anxiety, sorrow, or pain".



Neighbour Anne-Maree Sharpley remembers seeing William Tyrell’s distressed mother frantically pacing the quiet street where they both live searching for her son just minutes after he went missing.
“You could tell she was very distressed when she first came to us,” Mrs Sharpley said.

William's foster-parents were "in a very, very distressed state; they were shouting and screaming off their heads for William," neighbour Peter Crabbe told the inquest.
 
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I don't know where the impression comes from that FM was not crying and upset.
The dictionary meaning of distressed is "suffering from extreme anxiety, sorrow, or pain".



Neighbour Anne-Maree Sharpley remembers seeing William Tyrell’s distressed mother frantically pacing the quiet street where they both live searching for her son just minutes after he went missing.
“You could tell she was very distressed when she first came to us,” Mrs Sharpley said.

William's foster-parents were "in a very, very distressed state; they were shouting and screaming off their heads for William," neighbour Peter Crabbe told the inquest.

in the 000 call, she sounds very nasal, like she’d just been crying. JMO
 
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