Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #22

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  • #821
Natalie, 56, has been left suicidal and unable to work by the harrowing events of September 2014.
Williams’ family had driven up from Sydney’s north shore to visit his grandmother in Kendall, 30km from Port Macquarie on the NSW mid north coast when he went missing from her front yard.

Just minutes beforehand, his mother had taken the famous photograph of William in his favourite Spiderman outfit.
william-tyrell-spiderman-20160216071426.jpg~q75,dx720y-u0r1g0,c--.jpg


http://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting...-tyrells-grandmother-i-dont-think-he-is-alive
 
  • #822
Natalie Collins name public

Natalie, 56, has been left suicidal and unable to work by the harrowing events of September 2014.
Williams’ family had driven up from Sydney’s north shore to visit his grandmother in Kendall, 30km from Port Macquarie on the NSW mid north coast when he went missing from her front yard.

Just minutes beforehand, his mother had taken the famous photograph of William in his favourite Spiderman outfit.

http://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting...-tyrells-grandmother-i-dont-think-he-is-alive
Yes; different grandmother. NC is not the grandmother who lived at Kendall.
 
  • #823
The Kidspot article does say William disappeared from NC's front yard but that's incorrect I believe. Compare http://www.************.au/william-tyrrell-grandmother/
"In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Ms Collins heartbreakingly tells of her lost hope.
. . .
It was 18 months ago when William, then aged three, went missing from the garden of another grandmother’s mid-north coast home. He was visiting with his parents and his sister."

Edit: The link isn't posting. It's a Mamamia article.
 
  • #824
The Kidspot article does say William disappeared from NC's front yard but that's incorrect I believe. Compare http://www.************.au/william-tyrrell-grandmother/
"In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Ms Collins heartbreakingly tells of her lost hope.
. . .
It was 18 months ago when William, then aged three, went missing from the garden of another grandmother’s mid-north coast home. He was visiting with his parents and his sister."

Edit: The link isn't posting. It's a Mamamia article.


Thanks JLZ. If you see a link with asterisks as in the one you posted above, it means that Websleuths have banned links to that site being posted here.
 
  • #825
Thanks Crabstick. Yes, that article is confusing. Natalie Collins is William's paternal grandmother who lives in Sydney. William disappeared from the home of his foster grandmother. Two totally different people.

Natalie, 56, has been left suicidal and unable to work by the harrowing events of September 2014.
Williams’ family had driven up from Sydney’s north shore to visit his grandmother in Kendall, 30km from Port Macquarie on the NSW mid north coast when he went missing from her front yard.

Just minutes beforehand, his mother had taken the famous photograph of William in his favourite Spiderman outfit.
william-tyrell-spiderman-20160216071426.jpg~q75,dx720y-u0r1g0,c--.jpg


http://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting...-tyrells-grandmother-i-dont-think-he-is-alive
 
  • #826
That empty neighbours house next door. Its like the perfect abduction area.
 
  • #827
Today I received Birthday greetings from my fellow community members. What a kind gesture and thank you all so much.

My birthday wish is for answers for little William and his suffering family, and then for a re-evaluation by All on how we can contribute to a more nurturing, caring and safe society, world wide.
 
  • #828
Today I received Birthday greetings from my fellow community members. What a kind gesture and thank you all so much.

My birthday wish is for answers for little William and his suffering family, and then for a re-evaluation by All on how we can contribute to a more nurturing, caring and safe society, world wide.

:Happybirthday: Warshawski and many more!

What a beautiful birthday wish.
 
  • #829
A very small update to my post of last week ... as I said I would, I Tweeted Tommy Livingston, the author of the Stuff article, to ask him where in NZ it was that William was seen around New Year's 2016. I received a private Twitter message from him in response, asking 'WHO R U' which I didn't respond to. So I've left it at that. I'll continue to keep my eyes peeled for any future articles in the NZ media and will post if/when there are any further developments.
 
  • #830
Today I received Birthday greetings from my fellow community members. What a kind gesture and thank you all so much.

My birthday wish is for answers for little William and his suffering family, and then for a re-evaluation by All on how we can contribute to a more nurturing, caring and safe society, world wide.
Happy belated birthday :) 🎂
 
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That empty neighbours house next door. Its like the perfect abduction area.

That's what I always come back to, in my mind. The empty neighbors house, a perfect place for one of two scenarios. Either a random, impulsive opportunity, while lurking in the empty home....OR the perfect place to lay low and wait...
 
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That's what I always come back to, in my mind. The empty neighbors house, a perfect place for one of two scenarios. Either a random, impulsive opportunity, while lurking in the empty home....OR the perfect place to lay low and wait...

Surely though Katy this has been investigated with a fine tooth comb...yes I agree it just seems so convenient, and just maybe it did reveal something.

I do also agree with those who suggest Jube and his team know the answer, IMO they just have to place the right bait & set the trap fine enough so it leaves no wriggle room.

And IMO that is the reason we are left so frustratingly devoid of information. There is the old saying that 'one knows enough to be dangerous' and well intentioned as we all are, I believe this is so sensitive, and Jubey so determined, that there can be no chance of a mistake.

Like so many, I waver & struggle between the BS theory & the 'abduction for another reason'.

There is documented evidence of the presence of numerous pedophiles in the area and I doubt that is just a simple coincidence.

BS has serious allegations to answer, and it is absolutely right that all victims have the opportunity to bring the perpetuators before the courts and to see & feel justice be done. And if the only good to come out of all this is to clean up this scum then some good has certainly come.

Of course BS will have his supporters - right or wrong, there are very few people who go through life with EVERYONE knowing and believing them to be a total as&$(:. .

It's good to see that Rodney is supportive & close to his Dad. That's very important for a boy / man. I do wonder what toll it may have taken on RS personal life though as AS seems to have moved on. Perhaps she may no longer be making positive statements to the media.
And even though it was said (was it by AS) that all his 5 kids supported him totally, there is no real evidence of that. Does anyone know - is it 4 sons and 1 daughter ? Christine a M ? I cannot locate the daughter.
MS family appears to be another hotbed. Where are those 3 grand kids now - 2 perhaps with their dad?

.. all the above just me trying to put stuff together .. and I am not wanting to be mean as I cannot imagine what ones life would be like under the microscope like this - and especially being innocent!

Next scenario, and by far more secretive.

A little girl & her younger brother (by 15 months) are removed from their birth home before William's 1st Birthday, and go to live with 'Mummy & Daddy'. They are much loved also by F Grandma & Grandpa who live in Kendall (northern NSW) and a few hours drive from home in Sydney (was it Northern beaches).

Wind forward 2+ years and there is this catastrophic event involving poor little 3 year old William.

No information has been made public of the events or activities in his life up to this fateful September 2014 day ... Except the release of photographs of an apparently happy and healthy little boy that belie the drama that may have led up to the time of that snap.

We know the suffering of the F parents... They have spoken, they have begged, time and again.

There is also now a little girl without her little brother. A little girl who, with the amazing insight of children and given the surmised circumstances, would have seen herself as William's protector. A little girl who will now be school age, who will no doubt be torn in two... but perhaps is being home-schooled in the interest of her safety, both physical & mental.

We don't know about the biological parents, except for the fact that we are aware of a viviparous human KAT who remains amazingly unemotional.
Along with a distraught bio grandmother who has her own theories, but for whatever reason, has stopped short of spelling them out.

We presume the identity secrecy is to do with the fact that William & sister L are in foster care & that DOCS have all these rules ( shame some of those rules haven't saved the lives of the like of Mason Lee etc etc ).

Lets maybe hear from some of those DOCs workers who are upset, disappointed, frustrated in The System. Let's put some People Power behind this for the good of our Kids & our society.

All of the above is purely my personal expression and opinion.
 
  • #835
The 'In Sight' podcast about little William's disappearance is now up. Go to https://audioboom.com/boos/4932584-009-william-tyrrell. 'In Sight' is a true crime/mystery podcast. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet...

Thanks for this. It was interesting to listen to their research and perspectives. And to be reminded that there were 3 now-known pedos in the Grandparents as Parents Again group, as well as pedo Derek Nichols living 'close by' in Kendall, and that Nichols' alibi is that he was in Dunbogan when William disappeared. (And we know that Spedding says he went to Dunbogan on the afternoon of William's disappearance.)
Makes me wonder if they went to Dunbogan together. The podcast infers that pedos don't have to know each other as friends, they can know each other as sharers of 🤬🤬🤬🤬, etc.


ETA: Interesting too, statistically, at the time of his disappearance William was older than most children taken by someone who wants a child of their own to care for and love (tend to be babies) and he was younger than most children who have been abducted by a pedo (tends to be pre-pubescent apparently ... 8 or 9ish). Just adds to the complexity of the case really.
 
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  • #837
Not just the vacant neighbours house. The whole street and immediate area is conducive to abduction. Multiple escape routes not reachable by vehicles from Benaroon.. The cemetery hidden escape. Forest escape. Houses far back off the front boundary with shrubs in front. Low density housing. Essentially no property picket fences. Little to no street traffic.
You could see right across the property William was playing on. There was bushes in the neighbours house to hide behind with bush behind that to hidden exit without being scene in the street.
That was a massive risk to pick someone off the street, but it could happen off the drive in 4 seconds. The cemetery exit reduces the risk ten fold (Next to the vacant house), with little chance being chased ina vehicle.

That's what I always come back to, in my mind. The empty neighbors house, a perfect place for one of two scenarios. Either a random, impulsive opportunity, while lurking in the empty home....OR the perfect place to lay low and wait...
 
  • #838
You could see foster grandma and mum from the street. The whole area is easily monitored while the abduction could take place.
 
  • #839
Not just the vacant neighbours house. The whole street and immediate area is conducive to abduction. Multiple escape routes not reachable by vehicles from Benaroon.. The cemetery hidden escape. Forest escape. Houses far back off the front boundary with shrubs in front. Low density housing. Essentially no property picket fences. Little to no street traffic.
You could see right across the property William was playing on. There was bushes in the neighbours house to hide behind with bush behind that to hidden exit without being scene in the street.
That was a massive risk to pick someone off the street, but it could happen off the drive in 4 seconds. The cemetery exit reduces the risk ten fold (Next to the vacant house), with little chance being chased ina vehicle.

So Crabby, on that basis, does your gut tell you of something planned or spur-of-the-moment ?

either scenario to me would present a need for knowledge of the area and a safe escape route... Also a silenced William but that could be easily achieved with some choloform.

In my opinion, planned - by whom is the question.
 
  • #840
So more than one involved are you suggesting Crabby? Some watching, some doing ?
 
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