Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

[iailwa]

Listen to someone who knows:

Matthew Leveson's dad cautions pushing 'voyeuristic' petition on William Tyrrell's families
9news.com.au
By Mark Saunokonoko
12:01pm Sep 26, 2017

‘The father of dead Sydney man Matthew Leveson believes a petition demanding an immediate inquest into lost boy William Tyrrell is wrong.’

‘On Monday nine.com.au reported that the woman who successfully resisted a Supreme Court injunction that tried to block details about William’s disappearance was on the brink of delivering a petition to the NSW state coroner.

That petition, which has gathered almost 13,000 signatures, demanded a transparent inquest and gave reasons why "there is something very wrong with this case".

But Mark Leveson believes the public, however well intentioned, have no right trying to force an inquest upon William’s biological and foster families.

"It’s well and good the public being interested, and in some cases voyeuristic, in wanting to know what is going on," Leveson told nine.com.au.

"I’m not saying that an inquest is good or bad. I’m saying the decision should be up to Tyrrell’s parents not the public.

"It’s their son and their foster son and they should have all the say of what transpires."’

‘The William Tyrrell petition, organised by NSW woman Allana Smith and advocacy group Walking Warriors Australia, alludes to the case of murdered Queensland boy Daniel Morcombe.

Importantly, it was the families of Matthew and Daniel - not the public - who had personally pushed for those inquests, Leveson told nine.com.au.

"I have no doubt that sentiments and motivations [of the petition organisers] are quite honorable and to be admired but they need to think of the family," Leveson said.’

‘Allana Smith told nine.com.au on Monday that the NSW state coroner should launch a coronial inquest, despite the ongoing three-year investigation by NSW Police.

"It has been three years since William Tyrrell disappeared, and two years since the matter was referred to the NSW state coroner," Smith said.

"It is time."

The lead investigator into William's disappearance told nine.com.au on Monday that inquests are mandatory for missing persons' cases however they aren't generally held until police investigations had been concluded.

"Strike Force Rosann is following numerous lines of inquiry and at this stage an inquest would be premature," Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin said.

Walking Warriors Australia intends to deliver its petition to the NSW coroner in early October.’

Read more at:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...eveson-father-william-tyrrell-missing-inquest

the thing I can't understand is that it's surely in the public interest if a kidnapping pedo is on the loose??

 

[SouthAussie]

the thing I can't understand is that it's surely in the public interest if a kidnapping pedo is on the loose??

Maybe the person(s) is not on the loose. Maybe he/they are under surveillance. Maybe he/they are adhering to bail conditions and reporting to police as required.

We just don't know. Nor should we assume imo.

 

[iailwa]

Maybe the person(s) is not on the loose. Maybe he/they are under surveillance. Maybe he/they are adhering to bail conditions and reporting to police as required.

We just don't know. Nor should we assume imo.

yes maybe, or maybe not... i think you too are making an assumption here.

maybe they are on the loose?

This 'lone wolf' description has me worried

 

[SouthAussie]

yes maybe, or maybe not... i think you too are making an assumption here.

maybe they are on the loose?

This 'lone wolf' description has me worried

I guess that maybe because I have a strong opinion on who that lone wolf may be, I am okay with just letting the police do their job.

The police stated very early on that there was no need for panic, just normal vigilance and concern for the children. And, of course, the locals tightened up on their children's boundaries anyway. I'm not sure that has changed.

 

[iailwa]

I guess that maybe because I have a strong opinion on who that lone wolf may be, I am okay with just letting the police do their job.

The police stated very early on that there was no need for panic, just normal vigilance and concern for the children. And, of course, the locals tightened up on their children's boundaries anyway. I'm not sure that has changed.

I guess I have no strong opinion as yet. There are so many pedos around there, & everywhere. I just hope they do indeed have him in their grip...

Lone wolf - sounds intelligent & cunning. Are any of those POIs intelligent (i have no idea).. i'm still stuck at #14. soon to be #15 - only 2,000 pages to go! lol

 

[SouthAussie]

I guess I have no strong opinion as yet. There are so many pedos around there, & everywhere. I just hope they do indeed have him in their grip...

Lone wolf - sounds intelligent & cunning. Are any of those POIs intelligent (i have no idea).. i'm still stuck at #14. soon to be #15 - only 2,000 pages to go! lol

I applaud you for going back and reading all those posts. It will catch you up on many things, and is not something many people do.

 

[Bohemian]

Maybe the person(s) is not on the loose. Maybe he/they are under surveillance. Maybe he/they are adhering to bail conditions and reporting to police as required.

We just don't know. Nor should we assume imo.

Also the person may already be incarcerated on an unrelated matter. Likewise, their role as William’s kidnapper may also have been for a more benign reason (although no less a crime). DCI Jubelin offered a couple of examples in his recent media presser.

 

[JLZ]

I guess I have no strong opinion as yet. There are so many pedos around there, & everywhere. I just hope they do indeed have him in their grip...

Lone wolf - sounds intelligent & cunning. Are any of those POIs intelligent (i have no idea).. i'm still stuck at #14. soon to be #15 - only 2,000 pages to go! lol

I don't know that "lone wolf" is meant to have that connotation. Usually the expression means someone operating as an individual as opposed to as a part of a group.

 

[iailwa]

I applaud you for going back and reading all those posts. It will catch you up on many things, and is not something many people do.

thanks, i realise how annoying it is to just come in & go blah, blah, blah... about things that have been discussed so many times already. It's so good many of you have stuck around so long, caring for this little guy! I see some of you have been here for so long. It must give his family hope that so many care

 

[iailwa]

I don't know that "lone wolf" is meant to have that connotation. Usually the expression means someone operating as an individual as opposed to as a part of a group.

yes possibly... without the cunning? But i thought wolves were cunning anyway. Intelligent - i'm not so sure. Perhaps i'm looking too much into the psych of the wording, but it is something 'new' they bought up in the last presser & they have been working with psychologists for profiling (as you know). I guess i'm wondering why the team have picked this term specifically "lone wolf" instead of an 'individual'. I've very much into linguistics -- it sux by the way lol. It just warps my head, that term to me is frightening

 

[Bohemian]

yes possibly... without the cunning? But i thought wolves were cunning anyway. Intelligent - i'm not so sure. Perhaps i'm looking too much into the psych of the wording, but it is something 'new' they bought up in the last presser & they have been working with psychologists for profiling (as you know). I guess i'm wondering why the team have picked this term specifically "lone wolf" instead of an 'individual'. I've very much into linguistics -- it sux by the way lol. It just warps my head, that term to me is frightening

It could also be a term used by Jubes that only the kidnapper or their associates would understand.

 

[iailwa]

I see... hmmm... So jubes is telling one of the 'pack of pedos' we know you did it & we know u did it alone? Would this mean the police have evidence that sometimes they work together -- so in fact there is a pedo ring, or at least 2 who have worked together. I'm doing my own head in with the endless possibles of what is said & what is not said! This is such a strange case...

 

[sosocurious]

It could also be a term used by Jubes that only the kidnapper or their associates would understand.

Yeah, maybe Bo.
The wolf that lives life by their own rules.
Maybe he was once part of a group but left of his own will or was forced to.
imo

There was no mention of Rosann 2 in the recent pressers. I guess they are just plugging away with the low risk poi's.

 

[Bohemian]

I see... hmmm... So jubes is telling one of the 'pack of pedos' we know you did it & we know u did it alone? Would this mean the police have evidence that sometimes they work together -- so in fact there is a pedo ring, or at least 2 who have worked together. I'm doing my own head in with the endless possibles of what is said & what is not said! This is such a strange case...

Maybe and maybe not. What was it Jubes said during the ABC radio interview about crime novels? Real life is often stranger than fiction.

 

[Bohemian]

Yeah, maybe Bo.
The wolf that lives life by their own rules.
Maybe he was once part of a group but left of his own will or was forced to.
imo

There was no mention of Rosann 2 in the recent pressers. I guess they are just plugging away with the low risk poi's.

It’s hard to know anything for certain really but, yes, that’s the dictionary definition of a lone wolf. The term only acquired sinister connotations via its widespread usage wrt the Patriot Act.

I often forget about the quiet achievers of Rosann 2. I suppose they’re just getting on with the job.

 

[iailwa]

So, I have completed a rather haphazard (but factual as far as i know) list of missing/murdered persons on the north & far north coast of NSW from Newcastle upward. It's a word document, so any suggestions on how to go about posting it here? It's by no means exhaustive, I have probably missed some... but anyway, I can always edit if anyone notices something amiss

 

[Bohemian]

So, I have completed a rather haphazard (but factual as far as i know) list of missing/murdered persons on the north & far north coast of NSW from Newcastle upward. It's a word document, so any suggestions on how to go about posting it here? It's by no means exhaustive, I have probably missed some... but anyway, I can always edit if anyone notices something amiss

Thanks iailwa. The easiest way to save information that may need future editing is in a WS blog post:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/faq.php?faq=vbblog_faq

Let me know if you need help.

 

[iailwa]

this link I found in #14

so sick! I also read that pedos are in the vicinity of 4% of the population...

https://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/child-rapist-plans-move-to-northern-nsw/2759692/

I wish they could be placed on an isolated island all together & just fight it out amongst themselves for their survival. It just sux!

 

[iailwa]

Thanks iailwa. The easiest way to save information that may need future editing is in a WS blog post:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/faq.php?faq=vbblog_faq


Let me know if you need help.

I will give it a go, and will be asking no doubt if i can't do it... thank you this message is too short so i am just typing a little more and still too short, so a little more typing here

 

[SouthAussie]

I will give it a go, and will be asking no doubt if i can't do it... thank you this message is too short so i am just typing a little more and still too short, so a little more typing here

Hahaha ... too funny, iailwa.