Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

[iailwa]

No. They cannot be seen as focusing too much on one POI. For future court reasons. This goes across all crimes and their POIs, not just this one.
Some of us have always wished that Margaret Spedding would be honest with the police about what she knows. Some of us believe that she is aware of many small indicators.

Oh really, that's news to me - awesome thank you. Hmm. I rule him back in as one of my poi's lol

 

[iailwa]

No, no mention of BS' vehicles. He was talking about one of the vehicle seized after the graphic of the two cars, reported to be in Benaroon Drive on the morning of William's disappearance by by his foster mother, was released to MSM in September 2015.

Oh it was Jones' vehicle - is that correct?

 

[Bohemian]

Oh it was Jones' vehicle - is that correct?

DCI Jubelin didn't specify that the car seized after the graphics were released belonged to AJ but I think you can join the dots

 

[Hbayne]

I wonder if MS and BS visit the grave of her deceased son often. Records show he is buried at Kendall cemetery. Just a question given the proximity of the cemetery and how well the area may be known to some
All IMOO

 

[Bohemian]

Yes it has been spoken about for sure, but it's the first reference I've heard of it having direct access to Batar creek rd. Was that also spoken about before, do you know? I could go back and look but if you have the answer off the top of your head that would be handy. Good points re other tracks etc. I am actually gonna pass by there on my way to Sydney soon. I will be taking a little inland tour

It doesn't have direct access to Batar Creek Road but to Albert Street:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/...1!1s0x6b75e45772744951:0xd4330d00ab62e08a!3e2

Yes, it's all been discussed before. Your guess is as good as mine just where that information is in William's threads.

If you're going to go barrelling around on dirt tracks/roads and fire trails, be mindful of your personal safety and residents' privacy.

 

[Bohemian]

Okay. Well, when spiritual dreaming was speaking with me, she specifically pointed out the house that I have referred to in my map pic. She even sent me pics of it. Spoke about easy access to it, and spoke of its abandoned condition.

Not disputing the other abandoned property. Just wanting to point out this particular one.

First we had the 'creepy house' and now we've got the 'abandoned houses'

I'm not disputing the house in Kendall, near the Batar Creek (waterway), that you discussed with SD. I do remember reading your discussion early in William's threads before I joined WS.

I should have said a big thank you for the Google Earth map in my last reply too (sorry, SA, haven't had my coffee yet.)

As for the access from the odd-numbered houses to the house in that clearing, I remember being involved in a later discussion. I'd best do a refresher.

The 'abandoned house' I've been discussing recently with iailwa is another one a little further south, in the suburb of Batar Creek (not all that far from the location of 'JSWT' tree stump).

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks. I read a similar article on the day of DCI Jubelin's media presser.

Also:

'News.com.au has sent questions to NSW Police regarding the allegations there is or was an "escape route" near the Tyrrell abduction house.'

https://m.dailymercury.com.au/news/william-tyrrells-abductors-escape-route/3222789/​

I guess Candace got an answer:

(20:20) R:

'The Walk for William advocates have been talking today about a potential bush track escape route from the bush to the highway. Is something about that coming up here?'

(20:35) GJ:

'Look, there's a lot of people who make commentary on this. I'd say, I'd say, we're the ones investigating the matter, we're fully aware of the circumstances. We know what happened in Kendall and around Kendall and all the bush tracks. That's pure speculation on their behalf.'

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/en...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)​

WSers picked up on the access from Benaroon Drive to Kendall Cemetery via that particular dirt track years ago.

I was thinking more about fire trails/dirt tracks/dirt roads heading south from Benaroon Drive so someone could avoid Batar Creek Road to get to the abandoned house and the tree stump.* But, yes, as always, this is 'pure speculation on [my] behalf'.

[*Note:,No doubt this will also be the subject of the next 'revelation by a W4W advocate' that turns up in MSM. ]

I should have added above, before there 'is [pure] speculation on [anyone else's] behalf', I am not a member of the W4W's FB group.

 

[iailwa]

First we had the 'creepy house' and now we've got the 'abandoned houses'

I'm not disputing the house in Kendall, near the Batar Creek (waterway), that you discussed with SD. I do remember reading your discussion early in William's threads before I joined WS.

I should have said a big thank you for the Google Earth map in my last reply too (sorry, SA, haven't had my coffee yet.)

As for the access from the odd-numbered houses to the house in that clearing, I remember being involved in a later discussion. I'd best do a refresher.

The 'abandoned house' I've been discussing recently with iailwa is another one a little further south, in the suburb of Batar Creek (not all that far from the location of 'JSWT' tree stump).

Have you talked about Kendall Forest rd as yet, linking onto Batar? There's a road linking the two, which is unamed. A person can cross over batar creek rd too, into foxes creek rd. sorry if it's all been discussed... !

 

[Bohemian]

Have you talked about Kendall Forest rd as yet, linking onto Batar? There's a road linking the two, which is unamed. A person can cross over batar creek rd too, into foxes creek rd. sorry if it's all been discussed... !

I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll have to take a look at the map again. As I said, I think I need a refresher (and my coffee!)

 

[JLZ]

I looked at Google Earth and could see a break in the trees from the back of those houses. I think it is very possible that there is some kind of track leading to the abandoned house. Which is possibly one of the reasons why locals were suspicious of that place right away.

I don't think that's the location of the abandoned house. Stoney Creek Road is further south. I marked the intersection with a dot below. It's about two kilometres as the crow flies from William's grandmother's house, whereas your location is about half a kilometre.


Source: Google Maps

 

[iailwa]

It doesn't have direct access to Batar Creek Road but to Albert Street:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/...1!1s0x6b75e45772744951:0xd4330d00ab62e08a!3e2

Yes, it's all been discussed before. Your guess is as good as mine just where that information is in William's threads.

If you're going to go barrelling around on dirt tracks/roads and fire trails, be mindful of your personal safety and residents' privacy.

Haha. I will. I'm safety first, and mindful of others so i won't be snooping around any houses - even abandoned ones. i'll just see the roads basically - & take my GPS, water - & thank god I've got Telstra

 

[PrimeSuspect]

FWIW blog post of Jubes' presser is up:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/en...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

It's in two parts (link to the second part is at the bottom of the first).

Enjoy (and, please, don't complain about any typos — it's 11pm — I've been up since 6am and I haven't had my dinner yet!)

Thank you Bo! :tyou:

GJ: I want that person to feel the pressure. I want that person to feel that everyone's looking at them, and let's see where that takes us.'

 

[Bohemian]

Thank you Bo! :tyou:

GJ: I want that person to feel the pressure. I want that person to feel that everyone's looking at them, and let's see where that takes us.'

Yes, I bet Jubes wants that person to feel the pressure. I want that person to feel pressure too. I'd say by now that Jubes knows who that person is and what they've done to/with William and he will solve this case for William's and his biological and foster parents' sakes.

 

[bearbear]

so it sounds like they do know what happened on the day according to this from gj in the presser (20:35) GJ.......

I'd say, we're the ones investigating the matter, we're fully aware of the circumstances. We know what happened in Kendall and around Kendall and all the bush tracks

 

[SouthAussie]

I don't think that's the location of the abandoned house. Stoney Creek Road is further south. I marked the intersection with a dot below. It's about two kilometres as the crow flies from William's grandmother's house, whereas your location is about half a kilometre.

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Source: Google Maps

Thanks, yes. I googled-mapped the direction to Stoney Creek Road to check it out.
The house in my pic is another (empty) house that spiritual dreaming was talking to me about.
Bit of confusion there. My apologies.

 

[JLZ]

Thanks, yes. I googled-mapped the direction to Stoney Creek Road to check it out.
The house on my pic is another (empty) house that spiritual dreaming was talking to me about.
Bit of confusion there. My apologies.

OK thanks. So you think this other house is a possible crime scene? That space between the trees corresponds to the division between lots and surveying zones (I don't know what to call the latter). Perhaps that would mean a track, or perhaps a fence.

 

[Jennifer17]

OK thanks. So you think this other house is a possible crime scene? That space between the trees corresponds to the division between lots and surveying zones (I don't know what to call the latter). Perhaps that would mean a track, or perhaps a fence.

Wouldn't that have to mean that it was a local person or someone who knew about those bush tracks?

 

[SouthAussie]

OK thanks. So you think this other house is a possible crime scene? That space between the trees corresponds to the division between lots and surveying zones (I don't know what to call the latter). Perhaps that would mean a track, or perhaps a fence.

When spiritual dreaming told me about it, very early in the piece, she said that it was 'straight through the forest, about 1/4km away' from memory.
I think there is also a longer back way to the property, up the cemetery road then branching off in that direction, on a fire trail or track. That is why I was super-interested in the missing car part the police were looking for along a dirt track (somewhere in this relevant part of the forest, I believe).

I don't know if it is a crime scene, but some believed that it was a possibility that William was taken first to this location. I am sure the police are onto it. It was being reported a long time ago.

 

[iailwa]

HUH ??? WTFC who lives with who, as long as they are happy & safe. There are so so many more issues that IMO face our society today ...

HUH? This could be a kid for all we know. This is all stems from a hypothetical situation and is totally age dependant. If for example, there was an older adult male living with his mother, and it's a long term arrangement, then it's a bit odd IMO. A bit out-side of the norm. None of us know about the happiness & safety of these hypothetical people either, so I don't know where that came from. I wouldn't get too excited about my opinion, it's just mine

 

[iailwa]

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.6588863,152.6831011,232m/data=!3m1!1e3

ariel view link to the abandoned house on the crn of batar creek road & stoney creek rd if anyone is interested. Looking at the photo, the spooky house is the little one on the right as far as i know