Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

[Bohemian]

The picture with the police searching it - is def not the Stoney creek abandoned house. Wasn't there another just within 1/2 km of Benarroon drive - accessible most easily from the house with the lonely guy that sold for a quick sale? # 43 was it?

Not #43. The ‘creepy house’ as it’s known on WS is #35.

 

[Bohemian]

or if you subscribe to the asthma theory...?

Maybe, if William was abducted and/or assaulted. It would depend on its severity. All diseases are on a spectrum.

 

[they'll get you]

if anyone mentions Koppers logs Im reporting them.

:silly:

You can count on me NOT to mention them.



:floorlaugh:

 

[Bohemian]

:silly:

You can count on me NOT to mention them.



:floorlaugh:

*granny pashes tgy* :floorlaugh:

 

[Karinna]

Nothing has helped find William. We have no idea what is going with the LE minds - but if they are obvious/deliberate in hiding something - we could perhaps hazard a guess. good night

Sure & i didn't say otherwise. Have a good one,

 

[kiwi50]

My interpretation was that Jubelin wants the person responsible or the person who knows something to think he, Jubelin, is open to the explanation that what happened was an accident. The culprit might be tempted to come forward with a lying story, which would be an advance in the investigation. Or the person who knows might rationalize that they're not dobbing someone in for murder, just passing on that person's probably innocent involvement.

Yes especially if the perp has now invented a story about it being an accident.
I still believe the police know with 99% certainty, who did it, but sadly don't have a case that will stand up in court, and as time goes on it seems less likely the truth will ever come out, unless there is a deathbed confession.
It must be so frustrating for Jubelin.

 

[frogwell]

Yes if you move ur eagle eye a little towards the front of the house you will see a definitite driveway on the left leading into the property. . There wasn't a driveway in that position when the police were searching

If you go for a google drive, starting at 256 Batar Creek Road and follow the road back to Kendall, you climb up hill. When at the top of the hill, turn the vehicle 180 degrees and head back towards 256 Batar Creek Road. Look at the houses in the valley on your left. The house is an exact match, driveway and all for the picure of the property with the police in it. I am correct, you are looking at the house at the wrong angle.

 

[deugirtni]

I saw a post back on the threads today regarding multiple searches of the 21 houses on Benaroon Drive — I don’t remember if dogs were used — only that they searched them top to bottom, including spaces above the ceilings/under roofs and underneath floors/basements.

That is my recollection as well.. as well as having checked septics (visually I am assuming, as opposed to pumping out), and 'boots' of vehicles. Would perhaps have been interesting if LE had taken the dog(s) to each property in the immediate neighbourhood? Assuming that the big thrash of searchers would only have been messing up scents on FGM's yard, if a neighbour had taken him, there may have been a better chance to get the scent?

 

[deugirtni]

There may not have been blood. JonBenet Ramsey’s autopsy showed she had been hit with a blunt object, causing a a bloodless brain injury that resulted in her death.

What if the person who took William from Benaroon Drive was not a resident but merely a regular visitor or was working there? I vaguely remember an MSM article that reported police were scouring bush tracks looking for items thrown from a vehicle (and possibly car parts( at one stage. I will have to search for the article/posts as it was fairly early on in the investigation.

Re search for car parts:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-25&p=12862376#post12862376

May have been a resident or not a resident, but sounds like police have followed up on the theory that it could potentially have been an accidental vehicular accident where the body/boy was quickly removed and taken by the driver - a perhaps bloodless event. When it was discussed about searching for car parts, I had thought perhaps they were looking for something to tie in with a specific vehicle they had in their sights, but now I am thinking they were merely doing their due diligence in seeking out any car part which may have been very recently detached and discarded after running into WT accidentally, to get rid of the evidence.

In all of the media stories, I don't recall ever hearing police ask people to notice if someone they might know has a recent dent, or missing bumper or something, or getting bodywork done, or talk of a minor accident, etc. I suppose they also would have checked out area body-shops as part of their due diligence.

I wonder if none of those area residents had a security video camera to show the street? It was only 2014, so not the dark ages for sure, and seems the properties there are acre estates that may have benefitted? I guess if internet reception was poor there, that would put a damper on security footage?

Could it be that if people.. all of those neighbours who pitched in that they saw nothing, heard nothing.. noticed nothing, then perhaps it can make sense that a vehicle that was common to the neighbourhood may have been involved in some way? (But again, why?? unless it was a car accident.. or one of the neighbours had a hidden propensity toward abusing and then killing children.. or had a desire to produce a child for a perhaps childless friend?) And that theory gets wiped out too, by WT's stated timidness about wandering too far from parents' sight. (Unless perhaps there was a vehicle that looked very similar to FD's that he ran toward)

Just say you were a neighbouring resident.. and you were nuts/severely mentally ill.. and you did something to WT and then hid him. If you buried him on your acre property, you'd probably want to continue living there indefinitely, and you may never get found out, unless there later came a reason to suspect you or dig up your property. If you buried him somewhere else, then you may want to move to a different area altogether. Either way, it would be SO risky to bury him.. freshly tampered earth, risk of animals digging up, someone seeing something, etc. And where would you 'store' him until you could get some of that secret/alone time to bury him in a perm location? Would neighbours in that development be able to see the corners of other neighbour's yards, and what a homeowner/resident might be up to in the yard? Lots of trees, and lots of yard, so maybe not?

 

[deugirtni]

I'm sure that LE, as part of their due diligence, thoroughly checked out all of the neighbours, including what their occupations were.. but it would be interesting if there was a neighbour who had personal and private access to some kind of site.. like a construction site where building was taking place (foundations being poured?), or a waste site, or quarry, or something.

 

[they'll get you]

This has always bothered me-
I'm 100% sure an early article said 'she and her husband heard the children playing'. Remember William was close to their border fence playing in that tree? Mrs Wilson went out, where was the husband? They are an older couple so I'd like to know if LE checked if 'any neighbours suffered dementia. Older people do some strange things. IYKWIM.


Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.
When she returned, the street was in chaos.
“I wasn’t home and my husband wasn’t home. The only thing I was able to tell police was that I heard the children playing but didn’t see them … I just heard kids laughing and you could tell they were little children,” Mrs Wilson said.
“I don’t think it was an opportunistic grab from someone who just happened to be here *because we don’t get strangers wandering around.”


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

 

[they'll get you]

Would LE have also checked chest freezers?

 

[they'll get you]

One of our WS members was a searcher.<modsnip>

 

[they'll get you]

Spedding is either the luckiest or unluckiest man alive.

 

[bearbear]

This has made police confident that the person who kidnapped him was already in the area.

"You would have to have some other reason to be there and take that opportunity; either visiting, residing or working in the vicinity."

There was only a narrow window of opportunity to take William, who was snatched in broad daylight and with a significant risk of being seen by someone on the balcony of William's home as well as neighbouring properties.

This has made police certain that the kidnapper was impulsive and took tremendous risks.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/inside-the-mind-of-william-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

 

[kiwi50]

Spedding is either the luckiest or unluckiest man alive.

I'll go with lucky.

 

[Hbayne]

I'll go with lucky.

Me too, it's got to run out at some stage.

 

[SouthAussie]

I'll go with lucky.

Let's hope that his luck runs out with these upcoming court cases. He has already had far too much time walking around unpunished while young children have had to live and grow up with the horror inflicted on them.

And now William may have paid the consequence for that.

 

[they'll get you]

*granny pashes tgy* :floorlaugh:

Ol' Granny had him in the Christmas-hold so he had to comply.

 

[Josie2014]

Avid reader for a long time - first post. Forgive me if I muck it up please.... wearing my WS L plates.

* Foster parents ruled out

* Bio parents ruled out

* Pedo ring all but ruled out

* BS moved way down the list of POI's

* Perp connected to Port Macq area -*not necessarily living in the area

This may only leave a non-local who wasn't expected driving into the street for a reason, maybe simply to turn around.

Opportunity or accident?

What are the chances this will ever be solved?

Will William ever be found?